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Sony PlayStation: First Party Studios |OT4| Because we're skipping 3
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They've been expanding their current studios though. The output will be increased next gen, they just discovered the formula this gen.
Exactly. I'm so tired of reading about who should buy who. It's basically turned into fanboy fan fiction in the Microsoft thread (not everyone there is like that of course) and it's been like that for months.
"MS is gonna buy Kojima in a betrayalthon!"
"They're gonna buy EA! Could they buy Sega too?"
Blah blah blah
I get there's not that X-Factor for Sony in the same way as MS, but I really don't want this thread turning into, as I said, fan fiction about studio acquisitions.
Ha, yeah a lot of posts there are just wish lists or unrealistic dreams of who MS should buy.
Like after Sunset Overdrive, hardly anyone on team Xbox much cared if Insomniac made a sequel or even any other game for Xbox.
But after Spider-Man, suddenly they've become one of the most wished for acquisitions.
Acquisition talk got old last year honestly.
You think a Kojima game is gonna cost less than a QD tight budget game? Good luck with that.
Detroit costed $36m of development, I don't see Death Stranding less than that
Catch up? Your delusional. Sony has been leading FP exclusives even without those studios. Just because MS sweeps up a bunch of AA devs doesn't mean they are gonna pump out what Sony FP has been nurturing for years. Also with what we know Sony is expanding like crazy.
QD game are on the lower end of aaa development. Selling 2-3 million should be more than enough to put them in the black. And why do you find it hard to believe that QD would accept NetEase offer? Is there bad stories of dev working with NetEast in the past?
Cost less? With Norman Reedus, Mads Mikkelsen and other actors involved? I don't think so.
Kojima is super fast. Death Standing will take less development time than Detroit took
Isn't the expansion of Sony coming from within? Like second studios for most of their big guns?
Development time is only one variable. The size of the team is another. A game that takes 2 years to make could have a bigger budget than a game that took 5 years to make if the former had 1000 people working on it vs 50 people for the latter.
Some Sony studios are "expanding" because development/games will get bigger next gen (like with every new gen) and because they don't want to work over 5 years on one single game. Like they did with God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dreams, etc. So their studios are getting bigger.
That doesn't mean they have 2 full teams now at Guerrilla, etc.
They still need more 1st party studios imo. Well, let's see.
Looking at control and their last game, jeez I hope for one big Nope
Imagine thinking a Kojima game costing less than 36 million USD.
Imagine that.
FYI, MGS V costed more than 80m USD.
Yes, but Sony doesn't hype them on big stages so people don't care.
This. QD games have pretty tight budget's.
Dude Kojima doesn't come cheap, that game 100% not gonna be cheaper than Detroit. Also there are a lot more factors that add up to a game final cost than just development time.
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Zipper was dead weight, that SOCOM game made the brand retire.
However MAG was amazing and insane still waiting g for a sequel
I don't have a problem with Sony FP as long as they keep expanding (Cory new IP aka 2nd team at SSM, Bend or San Diego working on another project etc...). My problem is with how silent they're. Last time we saw something substantial from them was last E3.
Sony will be fine and they'll easily cross the +100 millions mark, but it's boring when we will go over a year with no major event to get excited about. I miss the old days when Shu or Adam or the 3rd party relationship guys would communicate with the fans and we'd get at least 3 events per year (sometimes even 4).
Something like inside Xbox or Nintendo Direct would be fine to fill the gap if Sony don't think they have something big enough for E3 or PGS (which is partially because they somehow completely shit the bed when it comes to 3rd party games going mostly to Xbox last year).
Sony will be fine and they'll easily cross the +100 millions mark, but it's boring when we will go over a year with no major event to get excited about. I miss the old days when Shu or Adam or the 3rd party relationship guys would communicate with the fans and we'd get at least 3 events per year (sometimes even 4).
Something like inside Xbox or Nintendo Direct would be fine to fill the gap if Sony don't think they have something big enough for E3 or PGS (which is partially because they somehow completely shit the bed when it comes to 3rd party games going mostly to Xbox last year).
Agreed, but I doubt they'll do anything to change that in the near future.
Highly doubt Kojima
Not sure why Kojima is being brought up when his deal with Sony was made long before Detroit released.
And I'd say Kojima is one of the last people on Sony's roster who has to worry about money.
Calm down on the aggression there. I'm saying we are still playing catch up to the amount of studios we had for SONY last gen. Has nothing to do with Microsoft and their agenda.
I cannot see how this might have been good for Sony. It's less one developer making exclusive games for them.
If Sony is going to continue with this 4 or 5 year development schedule in its games, it is clear that it will need more developers to manage to release at least 2 or 3 games a year.
If Sony is going to continue with this 4 or 5 year development schedule in its games, it is clear that it will need more developers to manage to release at least 2 or 3 games a year.
Yeahhh. I obviously don't want to police what people can talk about, but I'm finding myself glossing over so many threads these days because there's so much "X needs to buy Y" nonsense absolutely everywhere.
It's like sports fans who get more invested in the transfer sagas than what their team is actually doing on the pitch. Snooze-inducing.
They'll be fine with the devs they have + 3rd party contracts, there's zero cause for concern.
FYI MGSV had a development time of over 5 years and that budget included the creation of a brand new engine.
No shit, MGS V is just an example, saying Kojima games is cheaper than QD titles and faster is wrong.
Sony are on track to have an extremely strong fiscal year. In fact this year will yield the best results for the Game and Network Services division in the company's history. Once again growth is being driven by the network services segment with full game downloads, add on content and subscription services boosting the bottom line.
2019 will be another solid year for the platform due to the large install base, growing network sales, strong third party software, first party software and back catalog. Lineup for the first half of the year is set but second half is still in flux. Sony also has a couple of unannounced games (already existing IP) with PS4 in mind but I'm conscious that there have been discussions around making them cross gen/next gen titles. In general, most of the focus for Sony 1P is on PS5 right now. It is still early to talk about next gen but I imagine we'll hear some whispers come out of GDC.
Overall there is a push to further invest in PSN and focus on expanding the services ecosystem around the PlayStation brand. I'm not sure if much of it will be realised this year, but there is definitely a lot in the pipeline for next gen. Overall there isn't much to talk about right now. But when there is I'll update this post.
Bumping this again to remind everyone that not only is PSN growing but they are actively recruiting network people to work on the next gen PSN 2.0
The point is that making a comparison to Death Stranding with those numbers hardly makes sense.
If DS releases in 2019 then that will be a development time of 3 years and it would be made using an existing engine.
DS has had some solid development times 3-4 years if it comes out in 2020.
Either way Kojima's team has one of the best developers in the world working with him especially if he brought over the fox engine team to further utilize and improve Décima
Wish the best for folks at QD. Heavy Rain, despite all of its flaws was one of my favorite games last gen. I didn't like Beyond Two Souls and haven't played Their last game yet, unfortunately. But I like their touch and directing.
P.S. Their last 3 games have been graphical showcase for PS3 and PS4. I think Sony will miss that specific part of QD.
P.S. Their last 3 games have been graphical showcase for PS3 and PS4. I think Sony will miss that specific part of QD.
I personally did not care for QD games. But that'd just me I don't represent all ya. I am on the side that Sony is gearing up for something big. That calm before the storm. Hopefully it's not a shitstorm
Sony and Nintendo are by far the best publishers in the industry, NetEase makes mobile games, there is absolutely no comparison between the two.
NetEase won't be able to replicate the type of support that Sony gave to QD, and judging by the online/mobile job apps on QDs recruitment page, they likely won't even try to match the type of scale/scope of their previous games.
That's a good point. NetEase must have offered something really nice to convince them or Sony didn't want to work with them then.
I would only want Insomniac to join up with Sony as a WWS so that the trifecta is complete and under one house
ND, Sucker Punch and Insomniac
ND, Sucker Punch and Insomniac
Multiplayer? But yeah, it's not something to be scared of. Sony should invest some effort into online games. It doesn't mean it needs to become their focus, but I feel like it's not something they can continue to ignore either.
Yeah, I agree. I've been on an FPS binge a bit lately and I don't think it feels like there's too many at all. Heck; given the difference you can have in games like Mirror's Edge, Dishonored, Bioshock, Halo, COD, TimeSplitters, Far Cry etc I think there's still a lot of interesting and distinct stuff that can be explored in the genre. I reckon Naughty Dog could make an outstanding campaign, as could Santa Monica.
Nah man; I disagree. Socom was one of the first big online games on console and I reckon it would still make a splash if Sony brought it back in a big way. But they need it for a specific niche, as the slower thinking man's shooter to fill the niche Rainbow Six used to occupy. Don't make it a huge bombastic shooter like the fourth game.
At this point I'd say they'd be better just making a new IP, or mining Toyama's mind for something new and depraved. A big part of the reason Silent Hills was so exciting (apart from the way it was revealed) was the fact that Kojima was working on it along with Ito and Del Toro. Just apply that to something new and the Silent Hill IP itself it not necessary.
It seems as though maybe QD wanted a different partner, presumably so they could release on other platforms and own the IP for whatever they do next.
I sincerely doubt Death Stranding is going to cost less to develop than the 30 something million euros Detroit cost. Kojima is probably the most indulgent and lavish developer working in Japan, and for a AAA open-world game keeping the budget that low would be an amazing achievement.
Very possible Sony has TLOU2 scheduled for the end of the year, but doesn't want to say anything because it could very easily get delayed like Uncharted 4 did.
I'd say it's either TLOU2 or Death Stranding for this year.
Get on my level
KZ: SF's MP wasn't even bad it was pretty good but it just wasn't GOAT like KZ2 MP was and some can even argue Mercenaries as well
They should just have a MP KZ collection with remastered maps and all weapons and modes from all the games
Another 9 starters. I know staff turnover in gaming can be quite high, but won't ND soon be at/over 500 staff?
I remember when they were 70 for Uncharted:DF....
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