This is something that was sold as a big feature when the PS4 launched and nobody used it. It's mind boggling. I don't give a shit about multiplayer, so I don't want to install that shit.
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Sony needs to address the SSD storage issue on ps5
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I was going to post "But on my Xbox Series X is only 46gb" until I realized that the game didnt install the story mode for the game that are an extra 36 gb
Same here, I can't imagine what sort of native PS5 games collection would fill this up a month after launch. The statement that it's only "4 games" and/or an "insanely big problem" can be argued to be a bit of over-the-top hyperboles.
However I don't play COD nor any sports games outside of sim racers. Some multiplayer games from third parties fill up an abnormal amount of space. Some 3rd parties also sometimes have gigantic updates that end up in "Other", and some reported that sports games can have an updates half the size of the entire game.
It's up to specific developers to solve this crap, regardless of how soon the nvme list is published and enabled. A 1TB expansion would be $200 right now. You basically end up having to pay $20 of additional storage space for each additional sports games you want ready to play.
BTW I have found a bug with Other where a crash during an install leaves some zombie space which can only be recovered with a reformat. I only managed to reproduce this bug with the launch firmware, I couldn't reproduce with the latest. If I had doubt about the size of Other, or if I had crashes, I would do a backup with Settings/Saves only, and a full factory wipe with the latest firmware to be sure. But that's just me. Being angry and not helping anyone is so 2020.
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For the games that Im playing, the space is more than enough.
If I ever need more space, isnt hard to redownload everything...
If I ever need more space, isnt hard to redownload everything...
If someone feels that using half their storage after a month is filling up fast, that's just one perspective. I fail to see how calling what I did as "defending clear BS" is good discourse. That is completely unnecessary hostility.
I also just explained one scenario that isn't that farfetched to fulfill the "4 games" narrative. A shooter (COD), a fighting game (MK11), and two sports games (Madden & 2K) reaching 500GB. I know plenty of people that follow that playbook, and considering they are literally some of the most popular games out there, it's hard for me to agree with the narrative that only an extreme minority could run into storage issues.
Most people aren't likely to own external storage either, so I bet plenty have installed GTAO (another 80GB) to their internal storage. Hopefully the standalone PS5 release is much lower, but Red Dead Online standalone is 120GB so I'm not counting on it lol
So if anything, it's actually more likely for casuals to run into trouble because the annualized and ongoing games their friends are also probably playing already take up so much space.
Point me to where I disputed that? You're trying attribute what I said in response to something clearly false to go against your (different) argument instead of theirs. The post I replied to clearly named 4 specific games that don't come near filling up the drive, and you're trying to say what they actually felt was 1/3 full is filling up the drive?
If you want to hear my response to your point, it's that long term yes 660GB available isn't a lot. I don't have a problem with 660GB for a few months and using a cheaper external SSD for PS4 games while Sony gets their firmware in order though. You must know plenty of people that are above average, since attach rate for PS4 was under 10 games per console over 6 years out of a catalog of about 1000 games. Expecting most people to own 5+ large 80GB+ PS5 games out of like 20 total releases just 6 weeks into the console's lifetime is not based in reality.
You attacked me for considering one possibility, and I did cite how some users have been hit by the Other bug even worse than just 100GB. We don't know what the full story is but I was just trying to help clarify. This is resembling the type of back and forth you see on a site like GameFAQs, which never ends well.
The games I mentioned are all immensely popular and have upgrade paths (some completely free) from PS4. They are ongoing GAAS that aren't dying anytime soon, i.e. people will be playing them for more than just "how long to beat." It is at least more of a reality than some of you seem to want to recognize. Attach rate is also not as relevant as it used to be either with friends/family game sharing (which Sony is totally fine with) and the aforementioned upgrade/BC functionality. If there is a Game Pass competitor coming, it will mean even less.
Or maybe how about some of these developers need to shrink the size of their games. Also you cherry picked 4 of the largest file size games, not the most realistic situation.
They are literally among the most popular games, that is not cherry picking.
I understand that I am not the common person because I both own these popular titles and niche and more. However when I look at my friend list those 4 are often among what people are playing.
I definitely agree that these devs could and should optimize better. I am only speaking on it because these "best selling" games that often have daily incentives to play and thus stay on one's hard drive are the biggest offenders.
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I pointed out that possibility that clearly wasn't so in the one I responded to, a straw man. Instead you wanted to find increasingly unbelievable justifications for someone complaining about 200GB being "filling up" 660GB.
Sure, Madden and NBA are popular. They also sell much fewer copies than there are PS4 and PS5 consoles out there, even fewer people own both.
If game sharing was significant to affect numbers, publishers would do something about it especially for online games where they know exactly how many people log on. It's not significant.
If a Game Pass competitor launches and Sony hasn't yet released the firmware for storage expansions, feel free to start a new thread and I'll join you instead of shooting down hypotheticals. I just am tired of the pages of hyperbole and hypothetical arguments when Sony has explicitly said the firmware will be coming.
You are tired of other people discussing problems that you don't have. That's all this is. I mean feel free to hit ignore on the thread if it's so rough.
I haven't been talking about that specific user's claim for quite some time. You can't assess an entire discussion as a straw man when I thought we moved on from that to other legitimate examples as you requested a while ago. In other words, all this other stuff I'm bringing up isn't meant to address the catalyst to the conversation. It is indeed my fault if that wasn't clear enough.
But I also don't think anything more needs to be said on this. Let's just agree to disagree, as I already understand what I'm discussing is merely my own anecdotal data between myself and my friends (it's not all hypotheticals).
Ya'll not play games with friends online and SP games. You dont bounce between at least a half dozen, it's not that irregular. No one wants to wait for a 40+GB game to download and install when their buds hop on and want to play a game they dont have installed because of storage.
Have you never lived in a house with other people who use the console? Kids, partner, roomates? They might play X while I or you play Y.
Also Data caps, and just overall convenience. This isn't the age of popping in a disc when you want to change games, this needs to be remedied, it's not even a 1TB drive.
I have, I live with a family even and game with friends on my friends lists!
Already started bouncing things back and forth from internal to external ever since Cyberpunk came out.
Super weird how people are just baffled about hitting max storage when games like Call of Duty exist.
Super weird how people are just baffled about hitting max storage when games like Call of Duty exist.
"It didn't happen to me. Therefore, my brand is still unassailable"
I'm quite used to seeing this as a veteran of Joy-Con drift threads, you see
At the moment there aren't that many PS5 games. When people complain about storage in this thread, they're almost always mentioning PS4 games in their list of titles, which can already be stored and played from external storage.
So rather than just delete a couple of games, you're spending $500 on a new console?
OK, that makes sense.
No issue on my end, luckily I don't have data caps so I just delete anything I am not interested in playing anytime soon.
Right now I have Control: UE, Ghost of Tsushima, Hitman 2 PS4 (with Hitman content downloaded), The Last of Us 2, Astro's Playroom, The Last Campfire, Concrete Genie and Bugsnax. Still have plenty of room.
Right now I have Control: UE, Ghost of Tsushima, Hitman 2 PS4 (with Hitman content downloaded), The Last of Us 2, Astro's Playroom, The Last Campfire, Concrete Genie and Bugsnax. Still have plenty of room.
Or you could...delete s game or 2. Do you play over 10 games at the same time?
I know right. I only watch 1 movie at a time, but I don't expect Netflix to only have 4 available for me instantly at any given time.
Extended storage will come it's been just under 3 months since launch. PS5 OS was sent out raw.
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I play 3-4 games at a time maybe more. But it's not the issue. Cod is taking 1/4 of the ps5 storage. And sometimes I like to go in an old game just to swing around. Like Spider-Man. Got platinum but I often go in NYC for 10minutes
I've actually been getting on okay with it so far. I've got all my PS4 stuff on an external drive, and then I've got FIFA, Madden, NBA, and Call of Duty all installed for multiplayer rotation. There's still room for Watch Dogs, Bugsnax, DIRT 5, and Hitman 3 leftover!
Any bugs with that external drive for PS4 games? Thinking about doing the same, worried about bricking...
Anyone who has any combination of FF7R, FFXV, & WARZONE (or any recent COD) installed will have half their space gone
Beat FF7R then delete it.
Don't trust me though since I keep it on my external SSD despite the fact that I'm likely never going to play it again.
Not sure what Sony can do besides actually putting a 1TB SSD in the hardware, I think there is plenty of space on the XSX
I had to delete games today to download God of War.
Arrogant Sony making me delete games I've finished or won't play again.
Arrogant Sony making me delete games I've finished or won't play again.
Warzone and FF7R alone will take up +300GB of the 667 GB available (if you don't use external storage)
Once they announce the NVMe drives that can be used, it won't be an issue of space, just money.
A couple of times it's told me I didn't disconnect it properly when waking it up from Rest Mode, but I just click okay and carry on like normal. So no real issues, no.
The whole 'Just re-download' stance is ignorant and totally dismissive of one's time, and the environmental impact.
Or Sony could allow users to back up their games so that they don't have to redownload them at a later date.
EDIT: You can do that already, can't you? There's just no option for extending SSD storage so that you can play PS5 games from your extended storage. Right?
Yup. Add that the majority of people don't have fast enough internet to even make this a reasonable proposition.
really hope they make some kind of announcement about this soon. My "other" category is 100gb, so I barely have 500gb to work with.
I can't stand the delete argument. The advantage of a having a digital library is having on-demand access to said library.
The PS5's support of USB chipsets seems to be incredibly shitty. But there is one that is supported perfectly, so as long as you buy the right external storage you'll be fine.
See this post.
I was originally using a Western Digital Blue SN550 1TB NVMe in a Sabrent EC-TFNB enclosure, and it would basically corrupt the drive on PS5 as soon as I inserted it (worked fine on PS4 Pro). I took the advice of the post I linked to and replaced the Sabrent enclosure with the recommended Ugreen one, and voila, perfect external storage.
FF7R and FFXV can already be played from external storage.
God of War can be played from external storage.
That is more of an argument for streaming games, not storing digital games on a finite sized drive.
If I had time to play more games at time yeah I'd be feeling the pressure on space. I'll have to delete something to get Control and DSA installed. I'm starting to get to the point where I can delete some things though.
I hope within the next 3-5 months we can get expansion SSDs.
I hope within the next 3-5 months we can get expansion SSDs.