This exact same thing happened after Jack Tretton left and Shawn Layden took over. The changing of the guard always invites this stuff. The only time I remember people being right was kicking Mattrick and Phil Harrison to the curb.
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Sony needs a swift kick in the teeth - Borderlands 3 and Avengers on PSNOW are PS4v only
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You guys really need to chill with this "bootlicker" nonsense. You sound like a child and you're not impressing anyone but each other.
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I'm not referring to the streaming version. The downloadble version should 100% let you upgrade though
Right from PS Now homepage:
Oh the outrage! Why is this streaming service not providing something it clearly says it's not?!?!?
Oh the outrage! Why is this streaming service not providing something it clearly says it's not?!?!?
I mean that is an issue though - PSNow is now being advertised as more than just a streaming service - it also allows downloads of games. For Sony not to have PS5 offerings (and we are not even talking about exclusive games, we are talking about a simple next gen patch ffs) on their subscription service, it is embarassing.
I think OP takes this too far but at the same time people in here defending Sony essentially gatekeeping a nextgen patch on their sub service is something else.
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Point taken
But is it wrong to expect the PS5 version of the game?
I'm aware there are currently no PS5 versions on PS now. Which in it self was a short sighted move by Sony not to have the infrastructure ready.
Is it really that difficult to add a PS Now download button to the PS store? I know the streaming servers aren't available. But a download option would have sufficed.
Well, guess I'm not even gonna bother downloading Borderlands 3. I already played a bit of it on Stadia before refund and thought I'd enjoy it on PS5 with the DualShock triggers.
Bootlicker? Is that what people are throwing around now? Can't say I'm surprised.
Or you know, they could let PS5 players download the PS5 version, let PS4 players download the PS4 version and PC players stream the PS4 version. Crazy idea right?!
Because it's not, the publishers decide what version they want to give. 2K21 isn't next gen on Game Pass as well. And Square didn't wanted to give FFVII Intergrade on PS+.
What's to defend? ps now doesn't offer ps5 versions and never claimed to.
Some of these responses .... Xbox owners and PlayStation owners should just ask for more. Plain and simple. Some of the defenses in there... Do y'all work for Sony?
Still wish I got the next gen version of 2k on gamepass:/
Still wish I got the next gen version of 2k on gamepass:/
Congrats on reading the fine print but maybe Sony should have done the very normal job of making their subscription service support the free upgrades that people are buying their expensive new console for. Like we can actually expect better from these companies.
PS Now not being able to do PS5 games is neither here nor there, since you download a presumably fully updateable copy of the game.
I'm disappointed, but not massively so. I'm waiting to play Avengers on Xbox and already played Borderlands. But blocking free upgrades to current gen is going to get way more egregious the more it happens, whether its a Sony decision or not.
I'm disappointed, but not massively so. I'm waiting to play Avengers on Xbox and already played Borderlands. But blocking free upgrades to current gen is going to get way more egregious the more it happens, whether its a Sony decision or not.
I was gonna point out this example but, to be fair, NBA 2k21 came to Game Pass in a month that also saw 30 other games come alongside it, including Series X stuff.
Avengers and Borderlands are 2 of just 3 games being added to Now this month and neither of them include the free next gen update you'd get if you bought the games. Even if NBA 2k21 being last gen only sucked (and it did, and we had a lot of complaining about it here), you had 30 other games come that same month. As a current PS Now subscriber with a PS5, this is a bigger bummer because it's essentially confirmation that we won't be getting any PS5 stuff on it anytime soon. I was hyped to get our first PS5 releases on the service!
I made a post saying how I though it was neat having both these games on PSNow because they were good as PS5 versions (esp. re: Borderlands on a 120hz TV). I think I should shift my thinking and just assume Sony will always do the bare minimum, and under-utilize any possible benefit their paid services might give. What a needless, disappointing "surprise" for PS5 owners.
What's extra messed up about things like this (even w/ PS+ titles like FFVII Remake) is that these are free upgrades to anyone who actual owns them. This may be an indication that Sony just deals in cut-rate licenses, and it's what to expect.
What's extra messed up about things like this (even w/ PS+ titles like FFVII Remake) is that these are free upgrades to anyone who actual owns them. This may be an indication that Sony just deals in cut-rate licenses, and it's what to expect.
This type of arguments is so empty, millions of people bought Next Gen consoles also. They're only using new ones now, including me, and both upgrades are free for these people. It's so bullshit to put lock on something that is free and this shit should never be defended.
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Literally no one is subscribed to PS Now to play PS5 games and suddenly peo
You can download games, but it's not just a patch. The free upgrade version is a whole different SKU than the PS4 one. So how can you download a PS5 game from a service that doesn't offer PS5 games.
You can download games, but it's not just a patch. The free upgrade version is a whole different SKU than the PS4 one. So how can you download a PS5 game from a service that doesn't offer PS5 games.
There's a point where "expecting things" looks like being entitled. PS Now never advertised next gen games.
To be even more fair. NBA 2K21 last gen and 2K21 "new gen" are two different games - not just a (free) upgrade like with Borderlands 3 and Avengers
Bring your grievances up with the people that actually control these games. It ain't Sony or Microsoft.
Sony needs a kick in the teeth for STILL not having PS Now available in Australia and a bunch of other counties.
I feel like this is a mistake though. Giving PS5 owners less goes against their whole strategy.
I feel like this is a mistake though. Giving PS5 owners less goes against their whole strategy.
It is just a patch. However because of how Sony has their backend set up, they have to essentially create a seperate SKU for a next gen upgrade, which is simply a patch to the exsisting SKU on Xbox. That is a whole other issue with Sony's system and backend.
How can you download a PS5 game from a service that doesn't offer PS5 games? Link to that SKU, make it PS5 and Download only. Have another version that is as it is now and is PS4 + Stream or Download. Have it in the library with the rest of the games? What is difficult with that?
Reading this it's amazing how many people think PSNow is just a streaming service not knowing ngvyiu can download many games.
And this is a specialist forum.
I wonder what the perception of PSNiw is amongst the norms?
And this is a specialist forum.
I wonder what the perception of PSNiw is amongst the norms?
Once Returnal and Ratchet release and they have a good summer game show most people will go back to not thinking about Jim Ryan.
As you say PlayStation is fine, demand for the console is sky high and PS+ and PlayStation Collection have been great. PS5 launch titles also seemed well received.
In my experience nobody knows it exists, because it's not in my country lol
Sony just doesn't care about the service.
i fucking knew it
It was already so sketchy when the psblog post didn't specify *any* platform. Jfc get your shit together Sony
It was already so sketchy when the psblog post didn't specify *any* platform. Jfc get your shit together Sony
People are perfectly entitled to be unsatisfied with a service they pay for. Avengers is basically an irrelevant game at this point. Why people would think it's awesome to get access for 3 months to a live service game with a dying community I'm not sure.
I've now triple-checked this and it definitely doesn't work unless someone has figured out something I haven't.
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mmmm corporate boots
No, but they have previously indicated that they'd be adding PS5 games to Now shortly after launch.
And maybe they still will.
It makes sense for them too - as with Plus, giving people PS5 games prior to owning a PS5 helps pave a path toward PS5 ownership, and PS5 ownership is likely the best factor for Sony in securing ongoing engagement from a user for the next 5+ years.
So it is a bit disappointing that they're not on this ball faster. They have spent a couple of years now, seemingly, on a root-and-branch reform of the company and internal navel gazing, but with what feels like less focus on reform of their services and customer-facing features. Or a hesitancy to commit to a path, perhaps borne out of a discomfort with deviating too much from a status quo that's benefited them, and/or the recession of threats like Google. It's like things have been left up in the air depending on what else happens, externally, and they haven't landed on a definitive path forward yet.
I mean, I think for a while we've been waiting for Sony to consolidate and rejuvenate its subscription services, to pave a way forward. And when Google et al seemed like bigger threats, there were glimmers that this was going to happen. And it may yet happen, but I don't blame people's frustration with the modesty and restriction of their efforts in the meantime. And 'little' things like this that seemingly highlight the lack of evolution on the service. I mean it's now over a year (I think) since they laid out their grand plans for PSNow to shareholders, and I'm not sure any of the mooted improvements have actually come to market yet?
fake edit - close to two years now since they indicated plans for how PSNow would improve and expand in light of Google's entry with Stadia.
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I would've downloaded it to run through the campaign if it had the PS5 version tbf. As it is, not gonna bother.
People even on Era not understanding what PSNow is and what it isn't just makes it even clearer that Sony needs to rebrand/relaunch the service soon.
They should make a clear distinction between their cloud/streaming service and the game subscription with downloads. Yes, they could have gotten the PS5 versions for the DOWNLOAD versions but not for streaming, for obvious reasons. This would be very confusing though and hard to implement all savegames if a user wants to stream on one day (PS4 version) and plays the downloaded game (PS5) the next.
They should put the game subscription service front and center (with downloads for every single game) and promote the streaming functionality as an extra for now. Like Game Pass and Xcloud.
Right now they are doing it in reverse. PSNow is a streaming service with the added functionality of downloads.
They should make a clear distinction between their cloud/streaming service and the game subscription with downloads. Yes, they could have gotten the PS5 versions for the DOWNLOAD versions but not for streaming, for obvious reasons. This would be very confusing though and hard to implement all savegames if a user wants to stream on one day (PS4 version) and plays the downloaded game (PS5) the next.
They should put the game subscription service front and center (with downloads for every single game) and promote the streaming functionality as an extra for now. Like Game Pass and Xcloud.
Right now they are doing it in reverse. PSNow is a streaming service with the added functionality of downloads.