Sony is really missing an opportunity with The Order 1886 sequel

Majora85 · Apr 13, 2022

It was a decrepit example of a cover shooter even at the time. Tiny, boxed-in, narrow level design against pop and shoot enemies. And that was when the game was at its best for an approximately one hour period.

At its worst you were engaging in insta-fail stealth sequences and QTE sequences like it was 2006 all over again.

I swear this forum will never let this drab disaster of a game just rest in peace.

ArchLector · Apr 13, 2022

egg said:
Imagine if they decided not to make any more Devil May Cry games after DMC2, yall annoying saying no lol.
It has a lot of potential and in capable hands it can be something great.

In "capable hands" anything can be great, lol. Why not just make something new at that point without the useless baggage of a failed IP.

Pining for successful but dead IPs I get, but wishing for failed, dead IPs to come back is just a bizzare obsession that Era has.

s y · Apr 13, 2022

egg said:
Imagine if they decided not to make any more Devil May Cry games after DMC2, yall annoying saying no lol.
It has a lot of potential and in capable hands it can be something great.

Now imagine if DMC2 was actually DMC1.

Franchise would have been dead. That comparison makes 0 sense.

elbageluno · Apr 13, 2022

MaxAugust said:
I am sort of baffled this thread keeps getting made. Even if you are someone who likes the game, it was hardly a cult classic, critical success, or smash hit that would justify further investment. It has had next to no lingering attention, why in the world would Sony make a sequel instead of a new game that might attract a new audience.

It was also a bad game. One of the times I was burned the most spending $60 on day 1.

Serpens007 · Apr 13, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
The Order 1886 should've been Victorian Horror Mass Effect instead of whatever the hell the original game was. There might be sequels if it was an RPG instead of an ultra-linear corridor shooter that went super hard on telling an incredibly generic story.

So yeah, they're missing an opportunity of doing something special with the IP

YoungGunsII · Apr 13, 2022

The Order 1886 really wasnt anything speciel.

Yea the setting was kinda cool, but that's about it.

psynergyadept · Apr 13, 2022

I'm sure a sequel would had that "uncharted 2 sequel" come-up if it got the chance; I liked what the game had to offer; it must've really failed to meet Sony's expectations for it and ready at Dawn to be dropped like that.

thewienke · Apr 13, 2022

I really liked this game and enjoyed it just as much as Gears of War 1-4.

I think if they had a sequel ready to go within a year or two, this could have become a pretty good franchise. We're not exactly drowning in 19th century games or anything.

Dan Thunder · Apr 13, 2022

It was worth the tenner I paid for it but not much more. Yes it looked good but it was horribly linear and very short. The potential for a sequel is there but it would be such a fundamental start from scratch that I doubt Sony would ever think it was worth it.

Gwendly_ · Apr 13, 2022

Real said:
Does this game ever go on sale? I've wanted to play it but don't know if the price justifies it.

Yeah, quite often.

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WhtR88t · Apr 13, 2022

The world, style, setting and some of the basic mechanics had a ton of promise. Taking it to 1886 (Steam Punk) -> 1986 (80's Retro) -> 2086 (Future Sci-fi) would have been a pretty cool series of games.

Would love to see a sequel personally.

NightmaresHunter · Apr 13, 2022

That game was awful in everything expect visually and probably soundtrack.

Quacktion · Apr 13, 2022

s y said:
Now imagine if DMC2 was actually DMC1.

Franchise would have been dead.

I mean thats the whole point no? Killing the franchise then would mean no DMC3, 4 and 5, or in this scenario 2, 3 and 4. Hell want something more accurate, how about Mega Man. The first game was a trainwreck and Capcom had zero interest in a sequel until Inafune and his team just started to work on one in their spare time, and that spawned a whole-ass franchise. The point is you dont give up on something with potential after one misfire. Maybe you dont see it, but others do.

Onebadlion · Apr 13, 2022

It was crap. The only reason anyone still talks about here is because it was exclusive. If it was a Ubi or EA game we'd never have heard about it again.

AwShucks · Apr 13, 2022

I waited so long to buy and play the game, I think I ended up spending $3 on it. I shouldn't have listened to the internet. The length does prevent it from being worth a full price, but I found it really fun and entertaining and would have been fine spending $20-30 on it.

Dr. Ludwig · Apr 13, 2022

It has awful characters and a stupid plot. Even its much vaunted "world-building" is poorly thought out and written.

There is nothing to "redeem". Game was trash.

Chumunga64 · Apr 13, 2022

No they're not

It was a boring game that squandered its great premise of "immortal knights of the round table kicking ass"

You spend most of the game killing poor people

s y · Apr 13, 2022

Quacktion said:
I mean thats the whole point no? Killing the franchise then would mean no DMC3, 4 and 5, or in this scenario 2, 3 and 4. Hell want something more accurate, how about Mega Man. The first game was a trainwreck and Capcom had zero interest in a sequel until Inafune and his team just started to work on one in their spare time, and that spawned a whole-ass franchise. The point is you dont give up on something with potential after one misfire. Maybe you dont see it, but others do.

...no?

The first devil may cry was already successfull enough to warrant investing in the franchise and considering the fucked development of the sequel, it would make sense that Capcom would give it a 3rd try. If DMC2 was the first game in the franchise, it would be dead.

The Order 1866 was not successful at all and considering the costs of AAA development, you can't compare this to Mega Man either.

Especially considering there were people at Capcom likely passionate in continuing work on the IP. The Order was a contracted game to a studio that is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Facebook.

Deleted member 8257 · Apr 13, 2022

I'm curious as to why this game never became a PS Plus offering? Or did it and I missed it?

Trigonometrize · Apr 13, 2022

RustyNails said:
I'm curious as to why this game never became a PS Plus offering? Or did it and I missed it?

It would devalue the service

Quacktion · Apr 13, 2022

s y said:
...no?

The first devil may cry was already successfull enough to warrant investing in the franchise considering the fucked development of the sequel. If DMC2 was the first game in the franchise, it would be dead.

I mean yea, and we wouldnt get the sequels then. We are currently missing out on the DMC3 of the Order, potentially. One thing I will admit to not thinking about is how bloated the AAA budgets have become so the risk is MUCH higher than years ago, but if made well and perhaps by a popular dev team this could easily do better than an entirely new IP for example.

That1GoodHunter · Apr 13, 2022

Ryse and The Order threads back to back, yall really chose violence (and mediocrity) today 😟

Servbot24 · Apr 13, 2022

Order sucks. Just make a new franchise instead if they want a co-op series. Not everything has to be based on old IPs.

FLEABttn · Apr 13, 2022

i have this theory that people love the order 1886 if they like camp, but not because it's camp

that said, steampunk as an aesthetic is basically never good

SunBroDave · Apr 13, 2022

The only thing good about 1886 was the presentation. Story was bad. Gameplay was bad. And due to this, there's a lot of negative public opinion about the game.

Sony nowadays makes games that have good stories, gameplay, AND presentation. So why would they return to this IP that was never good to begin with, and be forced to overcome the negative public opinion about it?

Mass_Pincup · Apr 13, 2022

Rackham said:
Now, take this setting and world and add in co op and you got something here. It doesn't even have to focus on werewolves. There could be other supernatural entities you battle as well.

That would be such a let down.

PlanetSmasher said:
The Order 1886 should've been Victorian Horror Mass Effect instead of whatever the hell the original game was. There might be sequels if it was an RPG instead of an ultra-linear corridor shooter that went super hard on telling an incredibly generic story.

This I can agree with though.

number8888 · Apr 13, 2022

The Order 1886 was great at everything except game play which already seemed dated when it came out. I would have love a sequel with the same high production values and technology, but with improved game play don't does away with repetivitness and QTE's. I also think the world setting and lore had potential even though the story is mediocre.

Lueken · Apr 13, 2022

I thought it was well setup for a sequel. Loved the world. They don't need to go open world, but if they allowed the player to deviate a little from the path, it would be a day one for me.

Gero · Apr 13, 2022

Thanks for reminding me. I need to do my yearly order playthrough

Z-Brownie · Apr 13, 2022

don't think the game worth it, played at launch and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Gameplay was not interesting, story was all not that interesting, the cliffhanger was just bad. The only good part was graphics at the time, but i don't like "steampunk" that much to enjoy the aesthetic, so ... i don't think there is anything to be "missed as franchise"

shadowsdarknes · Apr 13, 2022

Cool setting. Just don't give me a super linear TPS.

Turn the world into a story telling RPG or something with build out mechanics and customization.

PlatypusDude · Apr 13, 2022

Sony should bring back Lair and Haze those looked cool to me /jk.

Nobody will care about a sequel to a bad game a decade out. The Order's setting can be done by a new IP in an interesting way if someone desires it. Instead of reviving a mediocre at best cover shooter that wastes its premise.

Death Penalty · Apr 13, 2022

Turning it into a multiplayer L4D clone would rob the title of the few redeeming qualities it had. I wouldn't mind more from the extremely interesting setting, but I'd go in a direction that varies enemy encounters, makes bosses interesting and really dives into the lore and world. And even then while there's a lot of potential there, the first game was an extremely hollow experience outside of its visuals. Not sure it's worth trying to make it all work again.

ElCidTmax · Apr 13, 2022

For a game that ended by setting itself up for a sequel, it's kind of a shame that it was a one and done. But it was a good but not great game that was pretty short and ended abruptly, and the numbers weren't there to support a sequel. If it was a reasonable success Sony may have continued support, but it really seemed like Sony lost confidence before the game even came out.

Can you imagine what the reaction would have been if this 7 hour game came out for $70? Sony probably did the right thing considering that people complain that their 40-50 hours games are too expensive.

thevid · Apr 13, 2022

I don't think so. I agree that Knights of the Round Table fighting supernatural horrors in alternate Victorian era London with fantastical Tesla weapons and gadgets sounds awesome. But The Order 1886 is bad and the IP is dead. I don't think there's any salvaging to be done here.

Kyoufu · Apr 13, 2022

Lobster Roll said:
Dogs playing badminton

Bro... I want this

The-JUV · Apr 13, 2022

If Sony were ever to revisit this universe they should make the main character Lady Lakshmi. I know nothing about game development, but if they were to reuse all the assets and continue the story from her perspective as a budget title I would totally be down for that. No idea how expensive it would be to do that though lol

SnazzyNaz · Apr 13, 2022

I'm reminded of how dreadful the werewolf AI was in this game. They acted like those hide 'n seek charging enemies in Dead Space 2 except stupid and completely predictable. Also wasn't this games plot essentially 'white elite good, poor and brown bad - oh wait, elite bad, brown sometimes good, maybe?'. Earth shattering stuff. Like it was more toothless (but I guess also less problematic?) than Bioshock Infinite's Vox Populi plotline.

ShinUltramanJ · Apr 13, 2022

The setting and theme is so badass. It'd be a crime to not take at least another shot at The Order.

LastNac · Apr 13, 2022

Many more less deserving games received sequels that fixed the issues of the first game.

Truth is The Order 1886 wasn't a bad game, and was unfairly targeted. Shinobi himself said it sold well enough for a sequel, it's just the toxic vitriol thrown its way that cost it one.

Deleted member 24052 · Apr 13, 2022

Pankratous said:
I agree with your thread title but not your post. Order 1886 is already a masterpiece, just a short one.

What the...

Turning it into some co-op trash like L4D would be such an unbelievable disservice.

WHAT THE...

El Crono · Apr 13, 2022

To this day The Order is one of the most impressive graphical showcases I've ever seen in a game console. That cliffhanger ending, the interesting universe the game managed to build, and the fact that it was just too short to delve deep in that universe made me want a sequel the moment I put down my controller.

Dr.Osiris · Apr 13, 2022

I finally played the order last month (huge backlog) and I really enjoyed it. Amazing graphics. Played on my ps5.

AllMight1 · Apr 13, 2022

I'll take a The Order sequel with a mercenaries coop mode like in RE5

Possum Armada · Apr 13, 2022

OP wants a sequel to a game he has never played.

This is a weird forum.

janusff · Apr 13, 2022

Lol this take will never die

Game sucked and they didn't want a sequel. That's that.

bastardly · Apr 13, 2022

i replayed this recently since it was like 5 bucks, and it still holds up as a graphical showpiece and i did somewhat enjoy the story, but fuck is the gameplay just barebones and uninteresting.

feel like if we got a sequel last gen it couldve potentially been something special if they really improved the combat and added some variety, but that ship has sailed i think.

Psamtik · Apr 13, 2022

It's okay for bad games, even good-looking ones, to just be bad.

HK-48 · Apr 13, 2022

If you've not played it then play it(it's really short) and tell us your thoughts after? I don't think they are missing out at all.

gattotimo · Apr 13, 2022

It had an interesting enough story and very good graphics. Problem is: there wasn't a game to support it. Very very VERY boring game, so little to do and so bland. An hypothetical sequel wouldn't have anything but the setting to build upon

Sony is really missing an opportunity with The Order 1886 sequel

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