Whether or not the leak affects sales will be difficult to prove. I don't know what metric they could use, has there been any precedent for something like this where a company took legal action against a leaker on the basis of lost sales?
Are you privy to ND bonus milestones? Has there ever been a game leaked this much in the past to prove it wont affect sales at all? There will be people who dont buy the game becuase of the massive leaks , how many is the question.
Hopefully the attention helps boost sales.
Just because something was very successful doesn't mean it wasn't materially impacted.
If a person has 10 million dollars and you steal $100,000 from them, they still are a millionaire. That doesn't mean they weren't impacted.
Holy shit. We can just post murders like that?
They will have been denied that ivory back scratcher they were looking forward to.If a person has 10 million dollars and you steal $100,000 from them, they still are a millionaire. That doesn't mean they weren't impacted.
This shit is everywhere seen alot of today under ghosts of tsushima twitter posts.This game REALLY triggered the anti-LGBT+ scumbags huh? Ever since Naughty Dog revealed that trailer with the kiss between Ellie and Dina, the homophobes have spread like a plague, endlessly trying to create bad press for this game, be it with fake leaks on Twitter or even just straight up anti-LGBT propaganda on Twitter. Imagine hating the existence of a game so much that you're willing to go through all this in hopes that you can get the game to "fail." Congrats on giving the game even more publicity to increase sales even further, morons, especially now that Sony revealed what really happened. You mad?
Holy shit if true.Basically.
Each and every ND game that gets patch updates a key from a server after it gets patched, and that server gives you and millions of other people keys to look at that server. That server did not have any authentication what so ever. As far as I was told once you gave it the key that you had gotten it literally just opened the doors, and where do you think the copy of the game that leaked was :P
If OP wants to thread mark this because this is the legitimate way it was taken from ND. Blame them for storing information like that in such a unsecure spot.
I also want to point out I literally had nothing to do with the leak. I just was told how it happened.
That's the problem with these things. No matter how the game performs, it's literally impossible to tell the effect.
The game could sell 20M copies but maybe it would have sold 30M.
Maybe it bombs and sells 2M copies but it would have sold only 2.1M without the leaks. Or maybe it sells more with the leaks because people are so blown away by what happens (note: i haven't read any spoilers, i have no idea what happens).
it's literally impossible to say.
What we can say is that it's almost a guarantee that it will affect sales. How and to what magnitude...that's literally impossible without a reset of the universe.
Are you privy to ND bonus milestones? Has there ever been a game leaked this much in the past to prove it wont affect sales at all? There will be people who dont buy the game becuase of the massive leaks , how many is the question.
Hopefully the attention helps boost sales.
Dammit, do I have to make a thread on why NDAs are a thing?
I'm going to have to make a thread about why NDAs are a thing and I won't be happy about it
They will have been denied that ivory back scratcher they were looking forward to.
I'm pretty sure trolls are actually increasing the awareness of this game.
Yup, I started seeing it after the trailer with the kiss and it never went away. It increased even more after the "leaks."This shit is everywhere seen alot of today under ghosts of tsushima twitter posts.
Is it? A corporation saying the reports about them not paying people and not acting in good faith are a lie... I am shocked i tell you.Sony debunked the Reddit post with their statement.
If anyone is asserting Sony is wrong/lying then that is arguing in bad faith.
lol what on earth? Based on what evidence?The leaks have likely created losses in the millions range. Good luck to whomever leaked it.
People not being paid properly and the company not acting in good faith is probably true.Is it? A corporation saying the reports about them not paying people and not acting in good faith are a lie... I am shocked i tell you.
Only of the Monty Python kind
I know.
Whether or not the leak affects sales will be difficult to prove. I don't know what metric they could use, has there been any precedent for something like this where a company took legal action against a leaker on the basis of lost sales?
I'm not sure but I wonder if they could use all the sjw hate for the game as a way to show potential damages. I mean companies sue for some far reach things like customers potentially being confused as to what product they are acrually accessing.
Lol no I'm saying it's ND's fault this game was leaked in the first place sure the leakers had some stuff to do with that but ND did a pretty big injustice by not making sure it was secure.Where did sony say it was ND fault? I agree it's possible that the leakers made up that story about the employee.
The information in your last post was very specific and not something that can be easily found online. I think you would at least need to have close ties with a leaker to know something like that
Go in the spoiler thread to know.I haven't been following the drama of this shit for obvious reasons, but why are people saying that this leak will effect it's commercial AND critical success??
I haven't been following the drama of this shit for obvious reasons, but why are people saying that this leak will effect it's commercial AND critical success??
Jail for spoiling a video game?
Can people stop this garbage please? You know damn well this isnt just about a video game.Jail for spoiling a video game?
What diabolical fiends. Are you sure your punishment is too severe?
Also with Avengers the fear of getting spoiled probably helped pressure people into seeing it earlier than they would have planned to. I bet there was even a tv ad out that probably said something along the lines of "see this movie before it's spoiled for you". You can't do that for TLOU2, it's launching pretty far away, Avengers had a week at most (early weekday screening?). Even then what big pivotal plot point videos of Avengers were floating around way before the opening weekend?Yeah, but what's "trouble"?
There's getting caught, getting sued, going through arbitration...but what was the final outcome for the perpetrators?
This is a bad way of looking at it.
Just because something was very successful doesn't mean it wasn't materially impacted.
If a person has 10 million dollars and you steal $100,000 from them, they still are a millionaire. That doesn't mean they weren't impacted.
I'm glad it's so specific.yeah it's a little too specific I tried to be as vague as I could be.
They wouldn't be the first developer to have pissed off the alt-right with game design decisions, I don't see how they could hold a leaker culpable for that.
What?Can people stop this condensing garbage please? You know damn well this isnt just about a video game.
I haven't been following the drama of this shit for obvious reasons, but why are people saying that this leak will effect it's commercial AND critical success??
Well yes, people are saying that leaks will have an impact on sales/critical reception due to story elements in there.Are you implying or referring to something specific? No spoilers please, I'm avoiding that topic like COVID-19.
Oh, I thought you were sarcastically mocking the people who want to see the leakers punished. My bad.
Well yes, people are saying that leaks will have an impact on sales/critical reception due to story elements in there.
Not because something leaked in general.
But how tho? It appears there were civilians and didn't sign any NDA's
Well yes, people are saying that leaks will have an impact on sales/critical reception due to story elements in there.
Not because something leaked in general.
This game REALLY triggered the anti-LGBT+ scumbags huh? Ever since Naughty Dog revealed that trailer with the kiss between Ellie and Dina, the homophobes have spread like a plague, endlessly trying to create bad press for this game, be it with fake leaks on Twitter or even just straight up anti-LGBT propaganda on Twitter. Imagine hating the existence of a game so much that you're willing to go through all this in hopes that you can get the game to "fail." Congrats on giving the game even more publicity to increase sales even further, morons, especially now that Sony revealed what really happened. You mad?
This game REALLY triggered the anti-LGBT+ scumbags huh? Ever since Naughty Dog revealed that trailer with the kiss between Ellie and Dina, the homophobes have spread like a plague, endlessly trying to create bad press for this game, be it with fake leaks on Twitter or even just straight up anti-LGBT propaganda on Twitter. Imagine hating the existence of a game so much that you're willing to go through all this in hopes that you can get the game to "fail." Congrats on giving the game even more publicity to increase sales even further, morons, especially now that Sony revealed what really happened. You mad?