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Sony has identified individuals responsible for The Last of Us Part 2 leaks, saying they were not affiliated with either Sony or Naughty Dog
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There's literally no way to tell.
Like, we all "know" it won't cost them millions, but, you can't factually say it won't. We *can* say that Sony will definitely treat it that way.
best is that you know this threads lenght will overtake the thread about TLOU2 crunch horrible conditions in a mere few hours.
Some of the reactions here are intense. I'm sure they'll get appropiate punishment. But stuff like suggesting releasing their info publically... WTF
That's the problem with these things. No matter how the game performs, it's literally impossible to tell the effect.
The game could sell 20M copies but maybe it would have sold 30M.
Maybe it bombs and sells 2M copies but it would have sold only 2.1M without the leaks. Or maybe it sells more with the leaks because people are so blown away by what happens (note: i haven't read any spoilers, i have no idea what happens).
it's literally impossible to say.
What we can say is that it's almost a guarantee that it will affect sales. How and to what magnitude...that's literally impossible without a reset of the universe.
This game REALLY triggered the anti-LGBT+ scumbags huh? Ever since Naughty Dog revealed that trailer with the kiss between Ellie and Dina, the homophobes have spread like a plague, endlessly trying to create bad press for this game, be it with fake leaks on Twitter or even just straight up anti-LGBT propaganda on Twitter. Imagine hating the existence of a game so much that you're willing to go through all this in hopes that you can get the game to "fail." Congrats on giving the game even more publicity to increase sales even further, morons, especially now that Sony revealed what really happened. You mad?
Maybe not in the game industry but leaks have happened in a medium where its kinda a bigger deal and they've still gone onto record sales
Impacted != materially Impacted
Anyway, we can argue about this until the cows come home, because there's literally no way to prove or disprove it one way or the other, but I really highly doubt any significant number of people who would have bought the game will not buy it now because they saw two cutscenes.
The game will sell well. A lot of people will enjoy it.
Leakers are dumb. People who intentionally and maliciously spoil stories have serious shortcomings, and fortunately things are pretty respectful with regards to those boundaries here.
Leakers are dumb. People who intentionally and maliciously spoil stories have serious shortcomings, and fortunately things are pretty respectful with regards to those boundaries here.
Holy shit. We can just post murders like that?Fuuuuuck, this thread be like...
They will have been denied that ivory back scratcher they were looking forward to.
This shit is everywhere seen alot of today under ghosts of tsushima twitter posts.
Dammit, do I have to make a thread on why NDAs are a thing?
I'm going to have to make a thread about why NDAs are a thing and I won't be happy about it
I'm going to have to make a thread about why NDAs are a thing and I won't be happy about it
I'm pretty sure trolls are actually increasing the awareness of this game at this point. Lots of totally unrelated places get a lot of "tlou" keyword namedrops.
If the person is unaffiliated with Sony/ND what nda are they under?
I mean, i get bummed when i lose $10.
I get pretty tilted when i find out someone steals $10 from me.
I get even more tilted when I find out someone just destroyed something of mine that is only worth $10 just 'for the lols'.
I am not materially impacted by $10 (unless it were to repeatedly happen).
It's not for the trolls to decide.
Yup, I started seeing it after the trailer with the kiss and it never went away. It increased even more after the "leaks."
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Is it? A corporation saying the reports about them not paying people and not acting in good faith are a lie... I am shocked i tell you.
People not being paid properly and the company not acting in good faith is probably true.
It's just probably not the reason for the leak.
They're not mutually exclusive in this case, it would seem.
Welp. They're about to be broke for life and perhaps a bit of jail time (if it can be proven they hacked in or physically stole something)
Hope it was worth it dummies.
Hope it was worth it dummies.
I know.
Doesn't change the fact that both are shitty infrastructures.
I'm not sure but I wonder if they could use all the sjw hate for the game as a way to show potential damages. I mean companies sue for some far reach things like customers potentially being confused as to what product they are acrually accessing.
Who the devs? We wont know until sales come out but let's just say the game fails to reach a milestone by a few hundred thousand sales , unknown if I worked on the game and disnt earn that bonus I would be wondering if the massive leak was the cause.
I still believe the game will sell very well you just never know or why else even worry about leaks? I dont think Sony corporation really cares about our spoiler free preferences. They just want to make sure we buy the game.
They wouldn't be the first developer to have pissed off the alt-right with game design decisions, I don't see how they could hold a leaker culpable for that.
I haven't been following the drama of this shit for obvious reasons, but why are people saying that this leak will effect it's commercial AND critical success??
Lol no I'm saying it's ND's fault this game was leaked in the first place sure the leakers had some stuff to do with that but ND did a pretty big injustice by not making sure it was secure.
yeah it's a little too specific I tried to be as vague as I could be.
I assume the affect on critical success is down to the assumption that reviewers will be swayed by public backlash, or that the leak will have given them more time to digest the game's story before publishing their review. Neither of those reasons seems especially likely to me.
Jail for spoiling a video game?
What diabolical fiends. Are you sure your punishment is too severe?
Can people stop this garbage please? You know damn well this isnt just about a video game.
Also with Avengers the fear of getting spoiled probably helped pressure people into seeing it earlier than they would have planned to. I bet there was even a tv ad out that probably said something along the lines of "see this movie before it's spoiled for you". You can't do that for TLOU2, it's launching pretty far away, Avengers had a week at most (early weekday screening?). Even then what big pivotal plot point videos of Avengers were floating around way before the opening weekend?
I'm glad it's so specific.
Should be easily verifiable.
That is really something that someone close to it would know.
Are you implying or referring to something specific? No spoilers please, I'm avoiding that topic like COVID-19.
Well sure but people have freedom of speech to protect them from spreading negative messages but if you stole something or acquired it illegally and were the cause of that negativity I wonder if there is some grounds to sue. At the least isnt this stuff copyright protected?
I honestly dont know what was leaked but I have heard people mention it's the entire game.
What?
What exactly happened that was so bad?
A few scenes from a video game leaked on the internet. That's it.
It's goddamn absurd people in this thread calling for jail time or violence against the leakers.
Because the leaker obviously has now killed Sony and naughty dog forever more
Well yes, people are saying that leaks will have an impact on sales/critical reception due to story elements in there.
Not because something leaked in general.
Oh, I thought you were sarcastically mocking the people who want to see the leakers punished. My bad.
People that are that easily swayed would have waited for reviews and let's plays anyways.
Or they were just straight up lying about getting it day 1
But how tho? It appears there were civilians and didn't sign any NDA's
Hmm, alright then if people are reacting to specific story beats. But I trust in ND's capacity to tell a good story, so not swayed by general reactions just yet.
Is it confirmed that these assholes leaked the game as a result of some anti-gay agenda?
Screw those assholes regardless, doubly so if this was their reasoning.
Even if the game wasn't leaked by anyone from Naughty Dog, the leaks have done damage and only incensed those who are anti-LBGT and that kind of shit can spread like wildfire. I'm not even sure how the game will do now tbh.