Seriously, now there is a counter culture to protect the leaker over the devs themselves.
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Sony has identified individuals responsible for The Last of Us Part 2 leaks, saying they were not affiliated with either Sony or Naughty Dog
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They got paid. It sucks that some people won't be able to experience the game the way they intended but at the end of the day we are talking about video games here. The only thing impacted might be the bottom line of a billion dollar company.
I'm worried that you're thinking of "bankruptcy and public exposure" is a minimum punishment. Can you really not think of anything in between that and "literally no consequences"?
And that justifies the calls for cruelty we've seen in this thread? Obviously, there should and will be some consequences, but I guess I just cannot vibe with the extremes to which some people want this punished.
I'm guessing he's assuming that people that got spoiled might not buy the game, which makes no sense, and that the alt-right trolls that won't buy the game because of the apparent "SJW themes" are an actually big part of the fan base.
Riiiight. Because this will definitely impact sales in a material way and bankrupt ND.
Some people here, I swear...
That's on Sony. I very much doubt the leak will do any damage to the sales anyways but whatever floats your boat.
Nope, not a single clue who did it.
I'll try to verify the information with a mod as soon as I can. I gotta stress this enough was not Sony's fault TLOU2 was leaked, This is on ND to blame. Even Sony has said. It's literally not an employee that they have hired. Contracted or not.
It's pretty easy to explain why on Monday I thought it was one thing then now I know it's another thing. I asked around someone told me what actually happened, and I see that almost everyone was incorrect because didn't this start on 4Chan? I'm pretty sure the disgruntled employee thing was literally something they made up to mask where it came from. ERA sorta likes to run with things, doesn't anyone remember the smash leaks? The Grinch/Smash Leak? ERA Loves to hang on something and really drag along and people will contribute misinformation pretty damn quickly.
Let me just read back the conversation.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences. But "an eye for an eye" is not how justice works.
The game is going to break all kinds of sales records, no one is getting a pay cut.
There's probably multiple laws, but it definitely violates the Copyright Act.
Oddly, I was informed of something similar as well.
This is different than the PSN stuff.
These are not normal times. In a normal situation, Sony and ND are not trying to complete projects while their entire development team is working remotely.
Heyy, its what I said! But yea, just didnt make any sense having someone do it out of "retaliation". It hurts everyone way worse, there are different ways to go about that.
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Angie must not have heard about this coronavirus thing yet.
It won't. Plenty of people spoiled Avengers Endgame for others as soon as they could and it still became the highest grossing film of all time. Getting spoiled pisses people off, but it won't stop them from playing the game if they were interested.
I don't actually expect a whole lot as far as 'punishment' or 'consequences'.
Has there been any precedent on the legal aftermath of similar events? I don't mean where customer personal data was leaked, or even a full on hack/breach of company materials. I mean something like "someone got code and leaked it but it was due to "sloppy" handling of said code."
Like, what happened in the Deus Ex HR leak?
What was the final punishment for the dudes that hacked Valve for HL2 code?
Has there been any precedent on the legal aftermath of similar events? I don't mean where customer personal data was leaked, or even a full on hack/breach of company materials. I mean something like "someone got code and leaked it but it was due to "sloppy" handling of said code."
Like, what happened in the Deus Ex HR leak?
What was the final punishment for the dudes that hacked Valve for HL2 code?
Its clearly not going to bankrupt ND but it could impact sales enough that bonuses are affected.
Millions in sales lost tho? Millions
Didn't the sword and shield leaker get in trouble? And the esrb leaker from smash 3ds.
No it couldn't. It's hilarious how this is even brought into discussion.
Firing their employees absolutely is on them. Are you saying they are forced to fire them if the game sales take a hit?
What was this person thinking. Must have been utterly thick to continue down the path this leaker did.
What a moron.
What a moron.
Where did sony say it was ND fault? I agree it's possible that the leakers made up that story about the employee.
Exactly my point.
Yes, it is an extremely shitty thing to do to spoil the game for a huge amount of people.
Sure, some punishment is definitely in order, if only to make sure it won't happen again.
But this thread is chock full of terrible takes.
And it's not going to impact the profits, not really.
Yeah, but what's "trouble"?
There's getting caught, getting sued, going through arbitration...but what was the final outcome for the perpetrators?
This is a bad way of looking at it.
Just because something was very successful doesn't mean it wasn't materially impacted.
If a person has 10 million dollars and you steal $100,000 from them, they still are a millionaire. That doesn't mean they weren't impacted.
I didn't say forced, but if there is loss in revenue due to the leaks and it caused something, that is a consequence.
The information in your last post was very specific and not something that can be easily found online. I think you would at least need to have close ties with a leaker to know something like that
Can't wait for the mod to verify you too.
Even with the pandemic there is some things that every developer knows to do, especially AAA devs. That includes having keys in a secure server. That would be a huge huge mistake that even small indie devs know to double check .
I'm a nurse. I know more than you ever will. Every day I go to work expecting for the day that I caught it.
And you can cut the passive agressive. No one is intimidated by you.
Oh oops, didn't notice that that was sarcasm. Sorry about that. I've seen people legitimately try to make that point way too often.
Thanks, I was only aware of the original statement link in the OP. I'm happy to know at least that I wasn't the only one that interpreted the original statement that way.
Whether or not the leak affects sales will be difficult to prove. I don't know what metric they could use, has there been any precedent for something like this where a company took legal action against a leaker on the basis of lost sales?
Are you privy to ND bonus milestones? Has there ever been a game leaked this much in the past to prove it wont affect sales at all? There will be people who dont buy the game becuase of the massive leaks , how many is the question.
Hopefully the attention helps boost sales.
Unfortunately the damage is already done, I've had people tell me they were spoiled just by scrolling through a tweet about VR. It really is unfortunate and it won't be the last time it happens. Stay safe people, it will be worth it!
