Yeah I don't fault the media outlets, it's just saddening as someone who's always been interested in video game journalism.
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Sony contacted Vice due to more critical review of The Last of Us Part II
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Yeah I don't fault the media outlets, it's just saddening as someone who's always been interested in video game journalism.
You accused me of "just wanting to spread hate". As well as "just wanting to keep adding more negativity to the world" earlier.
Cool. For me, it's the principle of it, beyond this one example.
That basically means your unable to find where to go next and you need to click a button for the hint
Your basically proving my point
Not important at all, but it's pretty dumb that whenever someone praises Druckmann people are quick to say he didn't do all this on his own, but whenever something like this pops up that doesn't even say his studio reached out, people are putting his name out there. Some are pretty damn transparent and letting their feelings of an individual come out in every thread that remotely deals with him.
It should be a discussion about a video game creator asking for clarification of a review of something they created because they did not understand. It is you who is making it anything beyond for your own personal reasons.
You would... disagree with them?
They're all on-point.
But that's really beside the point. PR hitting up isn't a developer going to a critic and saying "Hey i'm really interested in your opinion on X", it's "Don't you know who you're talking shit about?"
That's literally what you are doing. That isn't a personal attack. It is pointing out the obvious. Like stating someone is making a joke when making a joke... except the opposite here.
I think that would be fine if it was Naughty Dog asking for clarification. I'm not sure why Sonymore specifically Sony's PR firm had to step in.
Not always....sometimes you contact a journalist or a journalist contact you to get feedback about and article or a media piece.
C'mon is perfectly normal have a call or take a coffee with a journalist to get feedback. If you are dealing with media outlets and critics is perfectly fine to sit with them or call them.
Nope. It does that even if you're just exploring. So to say there are no in game markers on normal is wrong.
No, sorry but this just isn't true. You have threads where people are talking about events that occurred a decade ago and laying the blame at Druckmann's feet, you have people attributing quotes made by other developers to him as a way of attacking him, you have people insinuating he's a racist. And that's just from today! It seems to be oddly personal on here with him.
I want to make it clear though: I'm not talking about crunch here, by all means put him and ND on blast for that. They deserve all the criticism and need to change their culture.
He made fun of someone's bad "Schindler's List" take and tweeted "video games are too long"
Neither one of those things warrants dog-piling or being called a bully
This is fucking pathetic. Its a shame such a great game has been surrounded with nonstop controversy from virtually all sides. And no, the clarification that it wasn't oppositional doesn't make it better.
Some fans have had a seriously hard time coming to terms with this here tho. Its hilarious watching people act like Jason did something wrong by calling out that tweet.
Man this reminds me of the couple of times that Jim Sterling was contacted my PR reps when he used to review games for a living.
It's so asinine. He's been previously described as a "wildcard" by publishers because he can't be relied upon to give a consistently high score for certain games and IPs, and blacklisted for being open and honest.
In-short, any publisher who contacts an outlet should be told to kindly shove it. This industry is rife enough with snakery already
It's so asinine. He's been previously described as a "wildcard" by publishers because he can't be relied upon to give a consistently high score for certain games and IPs, and blacklisted for being open and honest.
In-short, any publisher who contacts an outlet should be told to kindly shove it. This industry is rife enough with snakery already
While I do absolutely think it is rather odd that Sony's PR contacted Zacny. I don't at all think he would hold back information that he was or felt that he was intimidated, harassed, or any other untoward behavior if it occurred. So, I am not jumping for any side here. Wish more people didn't, but this is the internet and all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am happy that it was reported, nonetheless.
I am happy that it was reported, nonetheless.
Okay yeah you're right, I only want to spread hate and negativity to the world cause I don't like a video game and the shitty work environment it comes from, and for thinking that Sony PR is in the wrong for trying to get someone who was critical about the game to change their review.
Yeah, like that's not what the review was saying anyway but they do, in fact, do this. I'm actually playing with the "press L3 to see where to go to progress" and "listening scans for items" (I never use the enemy scan function, for context of me talking about combat difficulty) because I want to avoid progressing so I can get collectibles, and so I've had the "look over where you're supposed to go" thing happen a lot.
(Note that even the L3 accessibility thing doesn't really indicate more than the very general direction, until you're literally right by the destination. It's clearly just building a path to the destination and aiming you towards the closest point on it. Which actually is pretty annoying, since it makes it hard to tell where not to go since multiple exits to a room/area can suddenly become the place it points to, and so on.)
It only happens when your lost and stuck
The reviewers say the game
Obvious and clearly marked path ?
That is an embarrassing response to a vague 5 word statement
Just because i spoke about my experience doesn't mean I'm making this about me
There's a huge issue here you seem to be too stubborn to see
It's a terrible review. Anyone that played 1 knows that 2 improved mostly every system, and that's not even considering the animations and new mechanics. The review reads like someone who's gripes with the plot stained their views on the games' gameplay.
Well you can always hope to make it on a smaller independent outlet, but you'd best bring something quite unique to the table in terms of what you cover and how you present it.
They didn't have to step in, they did it at the request of Naughty Dog.
He could easily DM him instead of making the entire hate mongers go after that person
I was referring to this thread specifically.
And yes, in other threads there is some exaggeration going on but i honestly find it sometimes hard to differentiate between actual personal attacks and DRUCKMAAAAANN memes.
From my experience with he game. Absolutely Yes. The last bullet point about no one questioning the vengeance is so incredibly wrong. Besides some key and pivotal scenes in the game that would be spoilers, you can see someone doing that the final story trailer.
Did you play it?
It's probably worth noting for people that missed where that link is pointing: Austin is talking about this happening when he worked at Vice as the EIC. Which is to say this is the direct context Rob receiving that message was in!
I guess but Naughty Dog had their own PR team
It's even mentioned in the article that they declined to comment.
I'm just wondering why go to Sony. Because they're bigger and place a bit more pressure?
What? Are you referring to when he attempted to diffuse the thing between Schreier and Canata?
That's the point.
I can agree with people discussing about Sony contacting them for feedback about the review.
But we could also be discussing about how bad this review is and how far is from reality. Everyone can have opinions but sometimes you can be wrong and Vice didn't do a good job with the review. Some parts are just plain wrong.
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I remember the start of the 360/ps3 generation when i did reviews some companies had 9mbargoes like EA and UBI. At least back then people knew what to expect, yet this is more retarded than that.
he responded to a public tweet in the public space
he didn't do anything wrong and no amount of mental gymnastics is going to make him the bad guy there