Maybe the ocean is blue.Yes. Gaming market isn't a sum zero game. Everyone is growing, in different ways.
Maybe the ocean is blue.Yes. Gaming market isn't a sum zero game. Everyone is growing, in different ways.
To be fair EVERYONE was predicting the PS3 to be a runaway success that built on PS2's lineage.
Then Sony lost day 1 exclusives like Final Fantasy, GTA, then there was the price, the year long delay, Xbox 360 having generally better and more exciting games at the time etc.
This. The demand is crazy.If demand continues to be so high for the next couple of years, I can believe it.
Sony's mistake or internal readjustment years afterThe most interesting part of that graph for me is that the PS1's strongest year was better than the PS2's. Crazy.
Im not saying it's not selling as much. I think other users are saying it's selling slightly lower than One in the same time frame. I don't know how they are coming to that conclusion, as in what data they are looking at.Is there actually evidence that Xbox isn't selling much? Yes the Series S is hit or miss depending on the country, but Series X seems to be out of stock just as much as PS5.
You really think it's as simple as one goes up so one goes down? Both can go up. MS and PS aren't just competing with each other but entertainment mediums that fight for your free time. I'm surprised that you think simply because of this "renewed" interest, what metric is that by the way?, means automatic sales. Xbox isn't just about selling consoles, just more the service. You're thinking too black and white here.Interesting that they will be able to do that even with renewed interest in Xbox, so those increased Xbox sales aren't taking away from ps5 and it's sales are increasing over ps4 at the same time?
100%, this is the most exciting aspect of high selling PS5.Absolute juggernaut. Means more funding for better in house studio games.
Interesting, thanks for the info. Either way, I had always assumed the PS2's best year would have blown out the others.Sony's mistake or internal readjustment years after
My data coming from Sony's own financial results shows PS1 peak year at 21.6M in FY98 and PS2 peak year at 22.52M in FY02
Yup, this is the best part.Absolute juggernaut. Means more funding for better in house studio games.
Is there actually evidence that Xbox isn't selling much? Yes the Series S is hit or miss depending on the country, but Series X seems to be out of stock just as much as PS5
I don't know. Where are the extra people coming in compared to the PS4? It definitely looks like more people are going in early. I know so many people that usually get a console 3 years in, that ended up with a PS5 at launch (or at least wanting one), but not sure I really see anything that's pulling in the people that never wanted a PS4 at all.
it slows down after a while but if you say so the ceos and the investors aren't happy.But didn't Sony claimed similar things for PS3?
Sony believes PS3 could top PS2's 10 year sales
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Apologies, that comment about Xbox was directed in general.Im not saying it's not selling as much. I think other users are saying it's selling slightly lower than One in the same time frame. I don't know how they are coming to that conclusion, as in what data they are looking at.
my thought is it's too early to tell for that specifically because they can't make enough units.
I don't think anyone is saying it isn't "selling much" even if it did Xbox One numbers again that would still be good IMO. I do think until Xcloud on smart TVs and phones launches Formally, there is a cap on Xbox market globally of 50-80M but that can always change
my only guess is XSS is manufactured less because people want the premium model, used games, etc and I believe both XSS and PS5 DE are like 20% of all units, so either way they're much less quantity and selling out quick
All this and they haven't even bit their stride yet when it comes to the exclusives.
You don't give PR speak to your shareholders.Sony is showing a lot of confidence here. Sure the have a solid long-term plan for good software. We will see if this is real, or just catching PR.
Anyway, gaming is on flames these days.
Sony is showing a lot of confidence here. Sure the have a solid long-term plan for good software. We will see if this is real, or just catching PR.
The poster was probably referring to their huge AAA IPs, which they still have to release (with the exception of Spider-Man Miles Morales, which isn't a mainline title tho)Very much disagree - they hit their stride immediately on release and haven't stopped.
Huh? they release two AAA games already. Ratchet and Clank and Returnal was AAAThe poster was probably referring to their huge AAA IPs, which they still have to release (with the exception of Spider-Man Miles Morales, which isn't a mainline title tho)
Horizon 2, the new God of War and Gran Turismo 7, they're all coming in the near future and it's going to be insane when they'll hit the market
Demon souls was PS5 only. Destruction all stars too.But you're not gonna do any PS5 exclusives in that first two years now that Ratchet and Returnal are out.
Their production has actually been really good. They've shipped and sold more PS5s than PS4s in the same amount of time. There is just a ridiculously higher amount of demand this time aroundI don't disbelieve they can sell that many PS5s but all evidence I've seen over the last 8 months suggest they are struggling with production of them.
Saying that, I highly doubt they would put that number out there to shareholders if they don't think they can produce them. Not reaching that target would tank the share price.
The PS4 is just so long in the tooth at this point that people are desperate to jump to something better. I think that's what's driving demand right now. Even if there aren't a ton of true next gen exclusives, the fact that the PS5 just makes your PS4 games better all around is a huge selling point. The PS4 couldn't say the same about PS3 games because of the compability cutoff. So in that case you had a better reason to wait for exclusives. In this case, why wait if you have the money?Their production has actually been really good. They've shipped and sold more PS5s than PS4s in the same amount of time. There is just a ridiculously higher amount of demand this time around
Interesting that they will be able to do that even with renewed interest in Xbox, so those increased Xbox sales aren't taking away from ps5 and it's sales are increasing over ps4 at the same time?
It's literally all down to production. The One wasn't selling out at this point. Series is. Also the Series X is apparently the hardest to mass produce of the current gen.Things might change in the future, but aren't the Series consoles selling less than the Xbox One? This renewed interest still hasn't materialized in the actual numbers, it's still just a perception and we don't know how things will play out.
This is what I expected from Nintendo when the switch popularity started to explode, but so far the scale of the games is the same or even worse. So I no longer care about "breaking records" sales.Absolute juggernaut. Means more funding for better in house studio games.
Very much disagree - they hit their stride immediately on release and haven't stopped.
True, but PS5 also has the best launch year line up ever for a PS console.