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Sony believes in console generations; Microsoft wants to eliminate them completely. What's the better strategy?
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LOLLL you seem like you are getting worked up....but just to close this discussion that's exactly what i said i'm going to do.
I have no reason to buy Xbox hardware if I can buy the same games on PC and use a Playstation/Xbox Controller to give a similar/better visual experience
I mentioned that in the original post - might as well get a PC then. I like consoles for what they are. I really like the console experience. Of course, this is a matter of taste.
Ps5's haptics are a step above and never before seen in the industry. You'll like what they have to show in July ;)
Jesus everyone is "an insider". Sure, I bet it'll turn out like this
Nintendo's HD Rumble will be the best unused Switch feature of 2017
If I had to describe Nintendo in just three words, I'd steal the shared city slogan of Austin, Santa Cruz and Portland: "Keep Nintendo Weird." The Japanese game giant delights in its unique character and has made a habit of defying convention. Nintendo's gimmicks are always fascinating, but they...
www.engadget.com
Sony will use the features in most of their games. The problem is that nintendo have no motivation to push hd rumble when they are doing fine with what they have out there. Sony knew the next generation wouldn't be a massive leap so implemented a super fast ssd and a controller with genuinely next gen features. Games like gt7 will feel next gen. We may get higher reviews for ps5 versions due to how well they integrate haptics into the gameplay imo.
Yes and in August. Theres a few features and a dozen games Sony haven't even shown off yet. Microsoft will likely show off a few surprises next month and then sony will introduce some more of their own.
1st time i hear about a July showcase. Is there a date?
August is the gamescom stuff right?
They announced it in May
No exact date yet.
Interesting, no one's leaked a Sony showcase for July yet. Jeff Grubb has only mentioned an August event that's likely a State of Play. Sony themselves have said more to come but nothing about July yet
Would you consent to mod verification for this info?
I knew about MS, but do you have a source for Sony's July event?
Oh my bad. Thought it was about the MS event. No i havent heard anything about a Sony even in July.
There is no source for that AFAIK. The user who claims to know could provide us some proof by linking a source? Transistor could help verify his info.
Looking at the post history, his/her posts in this thread are nothing but a wild fanfiction.
You mentioned games before though :)
Just be honest, do you know something or is it speculation?
Some speculation, some stuff i know. For example, i know a final fantasy will be getting a small remaster this year, much like ff8 did.
Lmao, nah. They put HD rumble in their controller, but like gyro they'll be treating it like an afterthought when it actually comes to the games they make, except a handful near launch, maybe.
Gyro has been used quite a lot, as has the touch panel and speaker. I do think haptics will be pushed by sony and most third parties will implement them like they have the speaker and touch panel. Gyro does need to be standard in all fps games imo.
In light of new information, returning to this thread and the poll results are interesting. Not only here but in the wider outlets as well
There were certainly a lot of "opinion pieces" around microsofts approach.
Xbox Series XS cross gen approach is robbing players of next gen thrills
Xbox's Matt Booty ends the next-gen exclusive as we know it
The Future of Xbox is.....Cross Gen??
Will Series X be held back by next gen plans
PlayStation Boss Not Interested in Making PS4 Versions of PS5 Games
The above are just a tiny snippet of the "noise" that was generated off of the MS announcement. From countless youtube videos, articles, tweets and threads on here the list could be endless. Contrast that to today and what we know and its certainly eye opening.
There were certainly a lot of "opinion pieces" around microsofts approach.
Xbox Series XS cross gen approach is robbing players of next gen thrills
Xbox's Matt Booty ends the next-gen exclusive as we know it
The Future of Xbox is.....Cross Gen??
Will Series X be held back by next gen plans
PlayStation Boss Not Interested in Making PS4 Versions of PS5 Games
The above are just a tiny snippet of the "noise" that was generated off of the MS announcement. From countless youtube videos, articles, tweets and threads on here the list could be endless. Contrast that to today and what we know and its certainly eye opening.
In terms of how good a strategy it is, both are perfect pieces for the overall strategy of their respective owners. Microsoft is selling Game Pass subs, Sony is selling individual games.
I think the PS5 is more exciting at the start of the gen as a result, but now that we're a few months in, I find myself appreciating things like the continuity in Xbox's ecosystem. Both strategies have merits, and both are working for them, so I don't particularly want one of the two strategies to disappear, even though I definitely believe subscriptions will become a bit of a ubiquitous model for first parties in the future.
I think the PS5 is more exciting at the start of the gen as a result, but now that we're a few months in, I find myself appreciating things like the continuity in Xbox's ecosystem. Both strategies have merits, and both are working for them, so I don't particularly want one of the two strategies to disappear, even though I definitely believe subscriptions will become a bit of a ubiquitous model for first parties in the future.
In the sense that both platforms are basically doing the same thing which is... a bit of both? And that Microsoft have essentially failed to release any new games on their new hardware while Sony have released a lot?
...but Sony's strategy was effectively a lie? They did the same thing as MS but lied to let them take all the gamer rage
It was certainly a deliberate, disingenuous communication strategy and it worked. Gaming media picked up what Playstation was signalling, and it spread out through out the entire discourse on Twitter, here, Reddit, etc.
More or less, but at least they are investing in VR on console, alone.
What a bump. It's hilarious how much shade was thrown at MS, yet now we have Sony doing the exact same thing with their software.
It shows how people take these things way too seriously and how these higher ups don't give a fuck about you or your interests — it's all BS and about money, especially now that we can see the lies being exposed
It shows how people take these things way too seriously and how these higher ups don't give a fuck about you or your interests — it's all BS and about money, especially now that we can see the lies being exposed
Sony's has more excitement, but as a customer without unlimited funds, I find Xbox to be way more affordable and I feel like I get more for my money, even before Game Pass.
It's sort of like buying titles at launch vs six weeks later for $20 less. With the PS5 it feels like everything is at a premium price solely to be in on the conversation of the new hotness. The $70 games and the extra 5-10 bucks per controller and the desire for a charging kit vs just using my rechargeables, all my old accessories work, let alone the games via BC.
So less sexy but more friendly. I have both, and I've been Xbox-centric forever so obvious bias, so take with a grain of salt.
It's sort of like buying titles at launch vs six weeks later for $20 less. With the PS5 it feels like everything is at a premium price solely to be in on the conversation of the new hotness. The $70 games and the extra 5-10 bucks per controller and the desire for a charging kit vs just using my rechargeables, all my old accessories work, let alone the games via BC.
So less sexy but more friendly. I have both, and I've been Xbox-centric forever so obvious bias, so take with a grain of salt.
You will also see a big difference in how people react, take a look around the internet apart from VGC most articles are basically hand waving it away saying it makes sense.
Cross-gen doesn't necessarily stifle the "next gen thrill" in all cases. Xbox is still missing the innovative leap of what is present in the DualSense (and the same story will be of VR), so the cross-gen is compounded by not just during the first couple of years, but for the whole generation unless they decide to bring out an updated controller which offers a more next-gen feel.
That controller is at least 50% of what makes Returnal such a distinctly next-gen experience for me.
That controller is at least 50% of what makes Returnal such a distinctly next-gen experience for me.
ultimately, it was just a meaningless statement they used to throw shade at microsoft, and at the time it worked (as evident by the posts in this thread).
User Warned: Platform Warring; Metacommentary
I love threads like this because you get to see how posters change their spin over time.
Is it? They've shipped 5 next gen only games, have 4 more coming this year or next thru third party deals.
I feel like Sony has more next gen games or the same amount as current gen games, which is more than any other game maker out there so far.
What kind of bullshit is this? Gyro is only now gaining widespread acceptance in console games because Nintendo's been pushing it in their games since the Wii's motion+
That controller can work on ps4 games. True ps5 games aren't working on a ps4.
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