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Sonicfox: "I'm gay"
- Thread starter Professor Beef
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Just so we don't get on a slippery slope here, i wouldn't generalize a statement that much. If we go down that rabbit hole we will encounter some sick stuff.
I wouldn't go as far as saying it doesn't have any homophobia, that would be absurd.
No, there is no rabbit hole. Obviously when we say that we mean "as long as no one is being harmed" (which doesn't include things like BDSM and other consensual pain inducing before you go there..).
Indifference isn't progressiveness. It's not about gay people being special, it's about recognizing that they have a harder lot in life. The bare minimum you'd have to do is recognize that.
Ha! I'll be honest and admit I have wonder if I could have gone down a furry path XD
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That's not true, being indifferent is progressive. It's the same as being indifferent to heterosexuals. I don't mind gay men/women kissing in public, holding hands or whatever, and thats just the same with straight men/women.
But i get what you mean, there sure are some struggles that gay people have to overcome in some aspects of their live which heterosexuals don't face and thats not ok, period. But that is not my fault, nor should i feel guilty for it (edit).
Nah dude, furries are cool. I was at a burner event once where there was furry camp, and they were some of the sweetest people there. Don't judge!
If saying "I don't mind gay people kissing in public" counts as progressive in your head counts as progressive in your head, then ... you gotta set a higher bar.
This is an uphill battle for them. Having a voice, being seen. Same with other groups.
TBH the game awards are the first time I heard of him and then I saw some of his tweets. My first impressions were that he was extremely annoying and cringey. But I spent the time to watch some of his other videos and he actually just seems like a good hearted, but a bit overexcited, young blood.
It's pathetic that people feel the need to attack him. He isn't doing anything wrong and it's not hard to ignore him if you find him annoying. But I guess these are the times we live in.
It's pathetic that people feel the need to attack him. He isn't doing anything wrong and it's not hard to ignore him if you find him annoying. But I guess these are the times we live in.
I don't know what you mean to honest. They have the right get married, they can adopt children and so on, but that doesn't concern me, why would it.
I'm sure that's lovely for you, but, please try to understand:
There are a great many bigots in the world who do care about whether someone is gay or straight.
There are a great many bigots in the world who do define a person due to their sexuality.
There are a great many oppressed people in the world who do not get to choose to not care about their sexuality, who do not get to choose to not be defined by it. Look at what's happening in Chechnya to see where this road ends.
Being indifferent, acting as though equality is something that exists already rather than something that must still be fought for, is not some enlightened progressive position. It is in fact a tool of regressiveness.
Neutrality favours the oppressor. "Not caring" favours the oppressor. Anything other than active and unwavering support for the oppressed favours the oppressor.
Did you just imply being gay is a slippery slope to "sick stuff"
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No, just think about your general statement that nobody should care who someone is attracted to.
Cmon, it's pretty obvious that was not what he was getting at.
Straight fragility is almost as hilariously stupid as white fragility and comes down to the same source:
People used to being catered to and seen as the 'default' having toddler tantrums because the world is finally growing up and no longer indulging their self-aggrandizing worldview
People used to being catered to and seen as the 'default' having toddler tantrums because the world is finally growing up and no longer indulging their self-aggrandizing worldview
As a self-righteous pedant, I think I can safely say, being this pedantic is missing the entire point of that response.
Based on the poster's latest response I'm not so sure.
Nah that was a weird place to take that comment
But really hope this is just something getting lost in translation
Let the guy say and do whatever the F he wants. This generation of complaining and being offended and judging and making videos about it, it is too much for me. Social media enhances the ugliness of peoples mindset. I would have hoped this generation would have eliminated sexism, discrimination and racism. But it only seems to be getting worse every year.
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So it's pretty obvious you're trying to win a "gotcha" by tying a pretty fair and innocent statement about accepting people of "non-standard" sexual orientations into a slippery slope argument about pedophilia and I'm gonna have to ask you to just stop
Good post. It was nice to see someone respond to this person with a well thought out response that didn't instantly call them a bigot without knowing what's going on in their head. Shame to see people jump on someone for sharing their (albeit misguided) opinion and not take the time to educate them. It's posts like this that help open people's minds instead of abruptly end a conversation in torches and pitchforks. I hope this person got to read it before being banned.
I'm glad there's a voice like that in esports. When I saw him for the first time in the Game Awards, it immediately made be feel better and more accepted in the esports scene, which I thought was a little bit straight-male centric. These voices are important, I'm a grown man, but if I felt some effect from it, imagine a young kid struggling with their sexuality.
You are missing the point, it's not fair and innocent if it's general. But think whatever you want.
Just admit you've never actually been to an FGC event if you think a fursuit disgraces it lol.
Do you mean the streamers of today or new ones?
The ones from today will be long retired.
And did you see what sonicfox won in price money already?
There was one tournament that earned him 120k.
And he won dozens already.
I think you look like a fucking dumbass tripping over yourself to slide in with a "well actualllllly" when it's pretty obvious what the first poster was saying.
No seriously, just stop.
Why clarify this? You know fully well that wasn't where I was getting at with my post....wtf is this shit stirring.
"look i'm all for accepting gay people but let's not start accepting too many people because then OOOOOOOOOH PEDOPHILES AND ZOOPHILES"
I don't think there is any slippery slope shit worth actually acknowledging here. Like we're having a convo about a gay dude saying he's gay and someone is saying in support who cares who this dude is sexually attracted to and you're alluding to pedophillia?
Like the fuck was that necessary for?
It's just to show that generalized statements should always be taken with a grain of salt, nothing more.
I actually think some people here defending why you'd be uncomfortable with SonicFox's statements are just being devil's advocate and deep down you aren't homophobic. I would just ask you take a look inside yourself and see if it's worth being argumentative just because you like to question things. Just check if it's kind to others, if the arguments you are defending are actually the ones you hold.
I sometimes find myself defending things just because my first reaction to people's strong opinions is to question them, but then deep down I feel the same way as them, just not as blatantly stated. And in those cases it's important to stop, sometimes apologise to those I hurt and show support.
I sometimes find myself defending things just because my first reaction to people's strong opinions is to question them, but then deep down I feel the same way as them, just not as blatantly stated. And in those cases it's important to stop, sometimes apologise to those I hurt and show support.
This is the particular moment and the particular topic you chose to make this point? I'm not accusing you of anything but you have to know this is in poor taste.
It's not about how much money they make. It's about their mental health and how they fit into the culture. It's about how they/all of us deal with discriminatory language and how/if they'll be acting the same way far down the line