It actually had the opposite effect. It stopped being fun for them once people started fighting back.
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Sonicfox: "Fuck TERFS" (see threadmarks)
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Are they, though? I thought ContraPoints pretty well refuted this - at least partly - by showing that while they use talking points filtered through a feminist lens in public, if you actually read TERF forums it's all just pure, visceral, lizard-brain revulsion and hatred.
Why the fuck would a company touch someone's as foul and toxic as Rousey in the first place?
It makes no sense and is a terrible look for WB.
People need to complain the get her worthless arse patched out fast.
It makes no sense and is a terrible look for WB.
People need to complain the get her worthless arse patched out fast.
in theory, they are feminists. In practice they don't even blink of aligning themselves with anti feminists and mysoginists and people who goes against basic women rights if it means getting more ammo to fight trans rights
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...-tips-fight-transgender-rights-separate-t-lgb
https://www.thedailybeast.com/radic...christians-team-up-against-transgender-people
https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2019/2/15/lesbian-terf-spreads-anti-trans-agenda-fox-news
Expecting people to act like good little minorities and roll over so they can take the punishment dished out by those out to hurt them isn't a particularly healthy take. It emphasises that it's the job of the minority, whether that be sexual, racial or generally societal, to be docile, kind and forgiving and I think that's completely backwards and puts the burden of responsibility on those who suffer under far-right and other hostile ideologies.
While that may be a valid point, the counterpoint would be that the controversy is what made it go viral, resulting in more people now knowing what TERFs are and that Rhonda Rousey is one. Any other way of making the point would simply have been largely ignored.
The mental gymnastics you're trying to do to justify that is hilarious. TERFs are on the wrong side of history and indeed, they can fuck off. But lets not lose all sense of perspective just because we don't like what they say.
Well being as MK11 had the best launch of the franchise, I really don't think Rousey voicing Sonya was that much of a detriment for them. Even if it was a terrible choice.
You'll have to do a bit better than that drive-by. What is exactly your disagreement here? That the way of making his point turned what would be one more comment against Rousey into something that has spawned a 10 page thread here and plenty of discussion elsewhere? Or whether it was worth it?
I didn't buy it for this reason, after buying all the modern era mk/inj.
Trans women also have had negative experiences growing up, cis women aren't exclusive on that.
Hope the permaban makes you revaluate your views on trans women.
While I do not know who the dude in the 2nd gif is, I gotta admit there is something intrinsically funny in seeing an apologist of the "master race" get OHKO'd.
User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia. History of severe infractions.
Any other women you dislike? May as well get it all out.
In case you missed it, the letter that people object to in those acronyms is Exclusion, and not Feminist.
Right winger conservatives attempting to divide and conquer LGBTQ, often with campaigns of trying to split trans from the rest of the group
so tl;dr fuck TERFs
Protip for everyone reading this: saying trans women have other gender than cis women and using "biological women" instead of cis women are big red flags
only bigots. Like the ones who are transphobic (TERFs), hate sex workers (SWERFS), help the neonazis (like kellyn conway) and are racists (like half of the ones working for fox news).
Interesting fact: there's actually nothing in the definition of TERF or SWERF that requires them to be women (unless you adscribe to the notion that men can't be feminists at all, which I find highly defeatist).
I'll leave you to stan for bigots now, have a nice day.
Thanks for this!
Also, I knew those first two shitty things about Ronda but didn't know she was a Saudi apologist or a domestic abuser. She can SO fuck off even more now.
Unfortunately she won't be going away anytime soon largely thanks to the WWE and their weird desire to leech credibility(?) from the UFC. Seriously, WWE picked her up during the final gasps of her celebrity IMO and they've unfortunately elevated her back up quite a bit. Not to get too deep into wrestling talk but now her merch sales would have to absolutely crater for WWE to ever even consider getting rid of her. That's a big part of what made Becky winning Wrestlemania such a shock because WWE has no problem with ignoring their fans to put forth the wrestler they want to have on top.
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I had no idea what TERFS was but having looked into it, cant really disagree with what he says. Fuck'em.
/shrug
/shrug
Are you saying that being a radical feminist is exclusive to women?
At this rate I feel like he should win another year of the popular influencer of the year!
bigots should just crawl back to their holes with dirty money.
bigots should just crawl back to their holes with dirty money.
There is an argument about how a man can only be an ally and not a feminist or whatever but people stanning for TERFs are not really consistent enough to make the argument without tripping over their own bigotry.
Richard Spencer only went down after he got clocked. I've seen no evidence to suggest that punching Nazis makes Nazis sympathetic.
It's similar to how deplatforming nazis make them stronger, you know.
TERFs have always sucked terribly, but I feel like recently they've added layers to their maliciousness and ignorance. TERF as a slur, hiding their transphobia behind "gender critical" ideology, the escalating connections between them and conservatives/the alt-right, the idea that being anti-TERF is actually being misogynistic. It's been weird watching the evolution (seems that way from where I stand, anyway) of TERF rhetoric and tactics.
Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that at least 2/3 (did I overlook anyone?) of the people who were banned in this thread are from the UK. The UK certainly doesn't have a special claim on transphobia, but this particular manifestation of it, reactionary and couched in pseudo-feminist language and unfortunately all too influential even in the mainstream, seems very much to be a uniquely UK phenomenon.
Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that at least 2/3 (did I overlook anyone?) of the people who were banned in this thread are from the UK. The UK certainly doesn't have a special claim on transphobia, but this particular manifestation of it, reactionary and couched in pseudo-feminist language and unfortunately all too influential even in the mainstream, seems very much to be a uniquely UK phenomenon.
Feminism is for everyone, regardless of gender/sex/identity. The argument that it's only for women falls apart pretty quick.
Again I said there is an argument, not that it was good or worthwhile.
It falls under the most minute amount of scrutiny, you are absolutely right.
Spoken like a true cowardly liberal who cares more about "muh humanity" and "can't be like them" while fascism thrives and is making a comeback. People who do this shit are the reason it has gone unchecked for a while.
Whether they are conservatives/right wingers or flat out Nazis, the rhetoric they push is violence and with it they invite violence upon themselves.
Also what the fuck is law enforcement gonna do?They're a group that serves wealthy people and people in power not to mention it is a group mostly infiltrated by the KKK and full of mentally ill people who beat their family members and kill animals. Daily reminder that 40% of cops beat their families and that cops kill about 25 dogs a day. These are both widely known statistics that you can look up.
On the other spectrum you have US based anti terrorist units being more focused on undermining leftist organizations then actual far right terrorism.
So you punch the nazi. Beyond the common assault charge, what have you accomplished?
Interesting. I never knew this but certainly have noticed a pattern in TERFs propping up highly conservative misogynist figureheads like Peterson and enforcing patriarchy so this makes a whole lot of sense.
I don't know you tell me.
In the mean time Richard Spencer is no longer doing speeches while some of his acolytes who weren't punched are still out there spreading their poison.