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Oct 28, 2017
5,793
Since these are native ports with new features I hope we get extra playable characters in each game. Amy Rose lost out on Sonic Mania so she could get a chance here.
 

Terraforce

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
18,917
Alternatively with a Series X I can play all of them anyway. With that said, I still welcome possible taxman ports, or at the very least widescreen official ports. So I'm in on this day one either way.

Series S sure is tempting for just Sonic games alone. Especially with the next Gen patches. SA1 and 2 are fine on PSNow, but Boost stages in Gen and Unleashed are a lot more iffy when playing streamed. Plus they lack the 60 fps versions.
 

HustleBun

Member
Nov 12, 2017
6,075
Please be good.

They figured out a way to fuck with Sonic Colors.
They found a way to fuck with Monkey Ball Banana Mania.
Please don't screw this one up. Please.
 

ZeoVGM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
76,099
Providence, RI
Sonic 3D Mega Collection:

Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Heroes
Sonic 06
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colours
Sonic Generations

Sonic 3D Gems Collection:

Shadow The Hedgehog
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic Lost World
Sonic Forces
Sonic Unleashed Wii/PS2

Man that Gems collection is mostly awful. Just like the 2D one. It's perfect.

They're both just different levels of awful, to be fair. lol
 

CerealKi11a

Chicken Chaser
Member
May 3, 2018
1,956
What is supposed to be different from this collection and the very many Sega has already released in the past?

EDIT: like if I've already played these games am I getting anything additional or interesting out of it?
 

Daysean

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,383
Please be Sonic 3 & Knuckles thats included
No, NOT Sonic 3 separately and Sonic & Knuckles separately which is what it seems like might happen
I want a official combination the way it was intended
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,973
United Kingdom
Please be Sonic 3 & Knuckles thats included
No, NOT Sonic 3 separately and Sonic & Knuckles separately which is what it seems like might happen
I want a official combination the way it was intended

There is still merit to including both individually. Sonic 3's zones have altered level designs compared to their Sonic 3 & Knuckles equivalents, and some people might just want to play one or the other (maybe, say, speedrunners).

The ideal solution is a "lock-on" mode which boots up Sonic 3 & Knuckles when selected.
 

andymcc

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,271
Columbus, OH
There is still merit to including both individually. Sonic 3's zones have altered level designs compared to their Sonic 3 & Knuckles equivalents, and some people might just want to play one or the other (maybe, say, speedrunners).

The ideal solution is a "lock-on" mode which boots up Sonic 3 & Knuckles when selected.

Or some of the "pick and choose" elements you get in sonic 3 AIR.
 

Daysean

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,383
There is still merit to including both individually. Sonic 3's zones have altered level designs compared to their Sonic 3 & Knuckles equivalents, and some people might just want to play one or the other (maybe, say, speedrunners).

The ideal solution is a "lock-on" mode which boots up Sonic 3 & Knuckles when selected.
Hmm now that I didn't know, despite me replaying both games so many times since i was young lol

You'll get all three: Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
No.... (in a positive manner)
Its hard to even be jokingly upset about more games/renditions being available lol
 

Jimnymebob

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,588
Hmm now that I didn't know, despite me replaying both games so many times since i was young lol


No.... (in a positive manner)
Its hard to even be jokingly upset about more games/renditions being available lol
I don't know of it's a hot take or not, but I always much preferred Sonic 3 as it's own game (and even then I don't like it much lol). The S&K half I find works better as a second half to S3&K rather than its own thing though.
 

Nathan

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Oct 27, 2017
703
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Gelf

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,294
There is still merit to including both individually. Sonic 3's zones have altered level designs compared to their Sonic 3 & Knuckles equivalents, and some people might just want to play one or the other (maybe, say, speedrunners).

The ideal solution is a "lock-on" mode which boots up Sonic 3 & Knuckles when selected.
I remember not liking that Sonic can't fight the Sonic 3 final boss when locked on so there's certainly merits to allowing options there. I know various mods had the option to restore it.
 

Qwark

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,021
So the new things that we could be looking forward to hypothetically include:
Widescreen support
Full lock-on support
New moves like spindash in Sonic 1
Removal of MJ music in Sonic 3 (unless that was an urban legend, I don't really remember)
Maybe new playable characters (longshot?)

Any other likely changes?
 

MarcelloF

Member
Dec 9, 2020
7,455
So the new things that we could be looking forward to hypothetically include:
Widescreen support
Full lock-on support
New moves like spindash in Sonic 1
Removal of MJ music in Sonic 3 (unless that was an urban legend, I don't really remember)
Maybe new playable characters (longshot?)

Any other likely changes?
Knuckles in Sonic 1 and CD feels likely. Blue Sphere would be pretty cool.
 

SlasherMcGirk

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,615
Cincinnati
So the new things that we could be looking forward to hypothetically include:
Widescreen support
Full lock-on support
New moves like spindash in Sonic 1
Removal of MJ music in Sonic 3 (unless that was an urban legend, I don't really remember)
Maybe new playable characters (longshot?)

Any other likely changes?

No Sonic 3 and Knuckles and with the original music is a instant no buy for me. I can't go back to that PC version soundtrack.
 

Edward850

Software & Netcode Engineer at Nightdive Studios
Verified
Apr 5, 2019
990
New Zealand
No, no.

I don't want prototypes songs or new songs.

Original music or no buy.
That would be exceedingly unlikely, given the music sources seem to be in active dispute. Unless there's some kind of miracle in licensing, the genesis tracks may well be straight up untouchable forever. And no amount of gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes will ever change it if that's the case.

So chances or it will either be the real original tracks or new tracks entirely.
 

ZeoVGM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
76,099
Providence, RI
That would be exceedingly unlikely, given the music sources seem to be in active dispute. Unless there's some kind of miracle in licensing, the genesis tracks may well be straight up untouchable forever. And no amount of gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes will ever change it if that's the case.

So chances or it will either be the real original tracks or new tracks entirely.

I have to disagree. They've made the licensing work in the past and I believe they can do it again if they truly put in the effort.

I don't believe they would finally, after all this time, do another re-release and not have the original music.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,345
Never thought about this until now but…

What if the games are graphically improved like Sonic Mania was compared to the original games? More colors, gradients, effects and rotations and frames of animation that were not possible on mega drive. That would be extremely cool.
 

Lukar

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
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Oct 27, 2017
23,352
I'd rather have Sonic 3 with a different soundtrack than no Sonic 3 at all. (I know the game is confirmed to be included here either way, but still.)
 

Edward850

Software & Netcode Engineer at Nightdive Studios
Verified
Apr 5, 2019
990
New Zealand
I have to disagree. They've made the licensing work in the past and I believe they can do it again if they truly put in the effort.

I don't believe they would finally, after all this time, do another re-release and not have the original music.
My general understanding is something very drastic changed, and any new licensing now would be nothing short of heroic, which is why it's taken so long to get a re-release in the first place. Remember the last time Sonic3 ever got released was the Xbox 360 in 2009, the general hypothesis is something major changed after that, and then we discovered that Ice Cap zone was based directly off an unreleased Jetzons track.

Though I will note that your concept of "any licensing can work you just have to put in the effort" really amuses me, I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time someone discusses the legal pretzel that is NOLF. :P
I don't mean anything by it, but do keep in mind that neither of us know the true scope of the problem.
 
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