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Sonic Origins coming to 'the latest platforms'; Sonic 1, 2, 3, Knuckles and CD in widescreen
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That'a included in Taxman Sonic 2. Hell it has Knuckles in Sonic 1.
0% chance he's missing. If this is the Taxman version, he's in. If this is somehow an update of the M2 version, he's also in.
Was loading a problem on previous releases? I recall it being instant on iOS.
Probably proto replacements for the ones MJ specifically did
Or maybe they ask Tee to remix them? The problem is we don't know exactly what Sega's legal position is so it's hard to say.
ah, alright, i misremembered then. welp, in that case, I guess they got my money...
It's kind of crazy that this collection doesn't already exist on modern consoles. It feels like something that could have been ported nearly every generation as easy cash grabs.
I'm going to be very happy to have all 4 of these games on my newest console. It'll also be my first time really playing Sonic CD!
I'm going to be very happy to have all 4 of these games on my newest console. It'll also be my first time really playing Sonic CD!
If Sonic 3&K is getting some cool enhancements like the mobile versions of 1 and 2, it stings a little less.
But I can't lie, I'm a little disappointed that this isn't a large collection including at least a bunch of 8-bit and handheld Sonic games.
It's just weird to have a big presentation showing this stuff off and you don't even have your shit together ha.
But if all end up getting the Sonic 1,2 and CD treatment, I'll be very happy and they really should throw Chaotix in there as well.
Hope this gets a physical release as I'll def be buying it on Switch. And I'll pick up a Steam version when it shows up (Prob a year later if Epic money hatted -____-)
Ice Cap actually wasn't MJ.
He was definitely involved with Carnival Night, Launch Base and the credits theme (that later became "Stranger in Moscow") but the Ice Cap theme came from elsewhere.
The keyboardist for The Jetzons was one of the other composers on Sonic 3 and ended up reusing the melody.
Lmao. Didn't even take an hour
Why don't we have a complete package of all the Sonic games? Why is it that every "collection" has an arbitrary collection of games and a lot of omissions. Why can't we have all the mainline Genesis Sonic games, the spinoffs like in Sonic Gems Collection and Chaotix.
Heck, put in Sonic Fighters as well, you already ported it to the Yakuza game so why not?
Square Enix has done and remade and remastered their classic games multiple times across multiple platforms and Sega's still struggling to put a collection of Sonic games with more than a handful of them.
Heck, put in Sonic Fighters as well, you already ported it to the Yakuza game so why not?
Square Enix has done and remade and remastered their classic games multiple times across multiple platforms and Sega's still struggling to put a collection of Sonic games with more than a handful of them.
It's probably worth mentioning that the same keyboardist Brad Buxer that created Hard Times/Ice Cap Zone was also a keyboardist for MJ and composed the credits theme and Stranger in Moscow.
The fact that they had no original art assets and didn't tell us who was developing the ports and for which platforms definitely signals that this was thrown together VERY recently and they have not actually ironed out any details yet.
Perhaps they just recently got word that the legal problems with Brad Buxer finally got resolved and they excitedly wanted to share with us that Sonic 3K can be published again?
With soft confirmation that Sonic 3K will be in widescreen, I really hope this means they're bringing Whitehead back to finish what he started and maybe give us a few other bonuses too (Drop Dash as option in all games perhaps?)
More than any other project SEGA has announced recently, this is the one I want the most exhaustive details on. Why did they wait so long to bring Sonic 1 and 2 widescreen to consoles? Were they really just waiting for a chance to bundle them with 3K?
EDIT: p.s. Nobody actually cares about any of the other Genesis/Game Gear era Sonic games. They're all bad except for Mean Bean Machine which is just Puyo. Would having these in the collection be a nice bonus? Sure, but would I actually play them? No.
Perhaps they just recently got word that the legal problems with Brad Buxer finally got resolved and they excitedly wanted to share with us that Sonic 3K can be published again?
With soft confirmation that Sonic 3K will be in widescreen, I really hope this means they're bringing Whitehead back to finish what he started and maybe give us a few other bonuses too (Drop Dash as option in all games perhaps?)
More than any other project SEGA has announced recently, this is the one I want the most exhaustive details on. Why did they wait so long to bring Sonic 1 and 2 widescreen to consoles? Were they really just waiting for a chance to bundle them with 3K?
EDIT: p.s. Nobody actually cares about any of the other Genesis/Game Gear era Sonic games. They're all bad except for Mean Bean Machine which is just Puyo. Would having these in the collection be a nice bonus? Sure, but would I actually play them? No.
you hear the word collection and automatically everyone wants every game in the series in or its a disappointment. Cant please everyone.
Every time the Game Gear games do resurface you'll get plenty of posters bitching about how much of a waste of space they are.
Cool for you, I'm pretty sure I already found everything to be found.
I think it was Cybershell who summed it up: the rubberband ring is such a poor central game mechanic that it makes the game explode into a fractal of bad stage design consequences in an attempt to accommodate it. I dunno how you salvage it.
Absolutely we should, Sonic 1 and 2 on Master System are some of my all time favourite games, so many memories.
Sonic 1 Master System was amazing. Arguably better than the Mega Drive version.
I don't think it'd ever happen, but it'd be cool if the 4 8bit sonic platformers & chaotix one day got the taxman treatment, perhaps spruced up in the case of the 8bit games, with new transitions, and in the case of chaotix seeing if it can be made more fun.
Scrap the tether mechanic and redo every single bit of level design and you might get there, but at that point you're running squarely into the "why isn't this just a new game" problem with drastic remakes.
Hah, they should get Taxman and Tee Lopes to demake Sonic 4 while they're at it.
On a more reasonable note, ports of the Advance games with remastered music would be cool
I would be legitimately down for a re-interpretation of Sonic 4 (Sonic 4eva) that takes the level themes of the original games, maybe the bosses, but other than that allows Christian Whitehead to go crazy. That would essentially be a Sonic Mania 2.
Hahah why? The levels are already remakes of other 2d Sonic levels.
TBH they should just make Ep 2 the sole Sonic 4, and Knuckles Chaotix Ep 1 and deny all knowledge of its existence.
Sonic 4 Ep 2 is pretty fun, for what little there is.
I fee like the latter would even be preferable. His work in Sonic Mania is much more enjoyable to me than the original Sonic 3 OST.
Wow, I didn't even know about this, thanks. Now I'm even more curious to know how they'll handle Ice Cap and if there's any rights issues like with the MJ tracks.
Widescreen would arguably positively impact the Advance games more than they did the Genesis games since they have way more difficult to react to "gotcha bitch!" moments in their level design.
Yeah, honestly when people complain about 2D Sonic featuring constant death traps and walls of spikes hitting them out of nowhere and such, I have to wonder if they only ever played the Dimps games. 16:9 is undoubtedly an improvement for the Genesis games (the Taxman mobile ports even go 21:9 on newer phones), but personally I never had as much a problem with not being able to anticipate off-screen hazards as it seems like literally everyone else on the internet has.
As was stated in another post, Buxer was MJ's music director and helped make some of MJ's songs, including the ones that were prototyped in Sonic 3. All of "MJ's" music in Sonic 3 is Buxer's music.
Sonic the Hedgehog 3/Development/Music - Sonic Retro
Buxer says he was the lead on the Sonic 3 project and MJ's involvement was minimal. Stranger in Moscow came about when he played some notes from his Sonic 3 work to MJ when MJ was looking for inspiration for a song. Considering MJ refused to be credited for Sonic 3 but Buxer is credited in Sonic 3 he's probably the one holding up the rights.
I think it's a combination of playing recklessly ("gotta go fast, right?") but also not understanding that the ring system functions the way that it does to take the edge off of the player's mistakes.
They're not as common as some people say, but there are some levels in the Genesis games where it's not reasonable to expect the player to avoid a hit on the first time through. But it's also rarely a real issue because you can always just tank the hit. I recall Dimps games being littered with a lot more bottomless pits, and rings aren't gonna save you there. I might hate Sonic Rush more than any other Sonic game I've played, and it's largely for this reason.
It's interesting to go back to the 16-bit era and take a look at all of the mascot platformer games that followed in Sonic's wake. It wasn't uncommon for them to try to copy Sonic's speed, only to then pair that with a traditional health system to mixed results. Awesome Possum and Bubsy stand out in particular.
It's not just him. If you Google the names of the other composers in the game's credits, you'll see that a lot of them show up as contributors to MJ's discography of the era.
To me it's always been apparent that MJ had a whole crew working on the game, even if the degree of his own personal involvement has been up to speculation.
Sure, but the only songs we know are an issue are ones Buxer claims credit for.
