Very good video and should help people wrap their heads around the concept.
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Sonic Fox comes out as Non-binary!
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Very good video and should help people wrap their heads around the concept.
for non-binary people, they is usually a safe choice unless they tell you otherwise. sf is just letting people know they're cool with either
Thx y'all, for some reason the Trademark option wasn't appearing for me on mobile.I think you as OP can add threadmarks by selecting the option under the post you want to threadmark:
Bookmarked this thread. Thanks for sharing. This thread taught me I probably really don't understand non-binary, gender, and how it exactly works and feel stupid because of it since I respect people not identfying with binary genders. Maybe because I'm a person who feels really comfortable as a gay man and the gender I'm assigned as birth.
Thank you for this, had no idea it existed! I'm away at the moment, so won't be very active here for the time being, but I'll definitely check it out when I get back home :)
EDIT Oh hey, post # 777 :D
Yaaasss Sonic Fox <3
I use he/him and they/them too, the idea of "won't people just use he/him if given the choice" is a legitimate one that I've thought about a bunch. There's a part of me that wonders if I should just ask for they/them and then expect that some people just won't, to balance things out?
Anyway. If you wanna do Sonic Fox and other NB peeps with multiple pronouns a solid, they'll probably appreciate you using their rarer pronouns, probably they/them but some use others, just because not many other people will. Imo anyway. If people give you an option, consider it! Don't just go for the default.
I use he/him and they/them too, the idea of "won't people just use he/him if given the choice" is a legitimate one that I've thought about a bunch. There's a part of me that wonders if I should just ask for they/them and then expect that some people just won't, to balance things out?
Anyway. If you wanna do Sonic Fox and other NB peeps with multiple pronouns a solid, they'll probably appreciate you using their rarer pronouns, probably they/them but some use others, just because not many other people will. Imo anyway. If people give you an option, consider it! Don't just go for the default.
because the person this news pertains is one of the best players in the fighting genre?
As a non-binary guy myself, I'd say this isn't really what being a non-binary man means. I mean, it can be for sure, but it's definitely not always a "man that also presents as a woman." More commonly, I think, it's usually someone who isn't 100% male but feels closer to the male side of gender rather than being right in the middle as both/neither male and/nor female. That's basically me, and you could call me a demiboy I guess too, but for me being a non-binary guy has absolutely nothing to do with presenting feminine or feeling like a woman in any way at all, but instead more that I don't feel like a 100% binary man, yet still feel closer to the male side of gender rather than being right in the middle or something else entirely.
Anyway, I don't really follow SonicFox 'cause they don't play anything I care about (and even if they did I don't care much for competitive gaming anyway, lol), but they seem like a genuinely cool person and, as a fellow gay non-binary furry myself, it's great to see them come out as non-binary like this! I still haven't really came out about being non-binary to many people yet myself, but this is inspiring!
EDIT: Just saw the follow up tweets and damn, SonicFox pretty much describes exactly how I feel too, lol. Same with sexuality. I still use "gay" for convenience and because the word has seemingly evolved to become somewhat of an umbrella term similar to "queer" in recent years, but I feel like something like polysexual may be a more fitting and inclusive description of my sexuality.
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Gotta be honest, Peltz. Prioritizing a top down technocratic prescription over the more democratically accepted practice within an oppressed minority looks bad.
I do not believe that is what is going on here... I think SonicFox is saying he's ok with either which is what prompted my question. As others have pointed out:
I can see one member has already been banned for their ignorance when it comes to using "they" in the singular. Hopefully they chill out and learn a few things about the English language before returning. I'd hate for them to remain so misinformed.
Great post. I'm in your situation as well and should have elaborated as I did in another post that it is a case by case basis and not a one size fits all.
For me , in a true general sense, using non binary means two things really: firstly , that I do not conform to the social constructs which have been put in front of me since day one . Secondly, I also do not strictly identify with the gender typically expected of someone born with my sex (male) and that's what I should clarify.
People conflate the topic of non binary with sexuality when they shouldn't and I think it's great we can step up and discuss this to help others understand
Ah shit thanks for correcting me. My mind like autocorrected the he/they part of his first post to them/they.
I relate to this so hard
I'm happy for them i always am hype for them vs Go1
I don't know what a cinnamon roll of a person is, but the thought of it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
And yay, good for Sonic Fox! Such an action must feel so empowering and positive!
It's Tumblr slang! I'm always surprised at the number of people on ERA who don't know about it, but it came from this Onion article:
Which then was turned into a meme as a term of endearment to talk about whoever would be too pure and too good for this world:
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Sonic Fox knows how to get me right in my feels. Sheesh. *tears up*
I'm so happy they are figuring out this thing called life, and a lot sooner than I did.
I'm so happy they are figuring out this thing called life, and a lot sooner than I did.
Then you haven't read the style guides enough.
Associated Press has had allowance for singular "they" for a couple years. We use Boston University style guide and they have it too for sure.
Tons of guides have it so you're being obtuse and ignorant.
This echoes a some of my own experiences, it just feels right for me to identify myself as NB.
Thank you, I'll message you when I get chance tomorrow.
Thanks :) All the love your way as well.
can I also just say: I understand these posts aren't meant to be in bad faith but it's really not a great way to respond to something like this by emphasizing how much you don't get it, saying i don't understand this, this is confusing for me but I support them I guess, etc.
just adds this stigma where we feel like we're kind of weird and being judged as confusing or strange even when people say they accept us
just adds this stigma where we feel like we're kind of weird and being judged as confusing or strange even when people say they accept us
Sonicfox did say "him/they" so you can (probably) still say him if it's that big of a deal to you. But you're gonna be completely wrong in other situations.
Idk why it hurts some ppl to just call someone what they ask to be called
When people are all like "BUTBUTBUT THE GENDER/GRAMMAR RULES!!!"
(Also: good for SonicFox. Everyone has the right to determine their own identity.)
(Also: good for SonicFox. Everyone has the right to determine their own identity.)
Thanks for this explanation. Kinda crazy I just heard of this concept from reading this thread because it honestly fits me fairly perfectly. Wild stuff. And good for SonicFox too.
Check the thread mark for a great explainer video on this subject. :)
