Sonic Boom: What Happened?

[Skyebaron]

Adventure is a product of its time. Its shit today. Only half of Unleased is decent. Colors and Generations are good 7/10s which by Sonic standards, aka grading on a curve, is near perfection.

Poor Bigredbutton got fucked royally by people that seem to forget how to make a decent game. I cant imagine the horror the developers felt when they heard about the Wii U exclusivity while working on Cryengine 3.

 

[Mesoian]

I have never even considered that Mafia III would be akin to a PS3-era Americanized Yakuza and now I think I want to play it.

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It really kind of is.

It's just less zany around the edges.

The worst thing about Mafia 3 is how empty it is, but the story, the characters, the rises and falls, on par if not better than the main Yakuza storylines. But you won't get a chicken doing real estate.

 

[Akronis]

good to see the conversation can't evolve beyond "3d sonic bad"

maybe watch the fucking video and add something to the discussion

OT: I feel really bad for the devs that this was forced onto the Wii U, it sounds like it could've at least been mediocre rather than a dumpster fire otherwise :/

 

[Phil32]

Just a mess of circumstances beyond the dev's control making for a mess of a game all around. I was so hyped for Sonic Boom when it announced, too. :/

Wow i never realized how defensive some Sonic fans are. A slightly non serious comment is enough to tick them off. I'm not gonna lie but this is some next level stuff.

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Crap like that usually derails and halts serious discussion, even with some going as far to say "Sonic was never good" in every Sonic thread here, so I guess some Sonic fans are sick of it. *shrugs*

 

[Deleted member 3294]

Tbh, sounds like the game was going to be bad to begin with, just everything Sega did managed to make it way worse. Like, turned it from a 5/10 game into a 2/10 one. I feel bad for the developers for all of the shit they had to deal with though. Glad they're still around and making better received games now, and are presumably working with publishers that ask less ridiculous things from them.

 

[Deleted member 4034]

Sonic Boom's only contribution to the franchise is producing the greatest animated series to come out of this IP


Another ass-in-mouth first post that tries to come off as clever or witty despite the implication of a 3D sonic title being bad coming off as misinformed or all around only used to incite aggression amongst fans

It sucks that this forum just suddenly doesn't allow discussion of a franchise because meme culture dictates what's good and what isn't good

why can't you just consider the following: going outside, and sitting in the grass, isntead of

instead of posting

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What does dick breathing even mean?

 

[NoKisum]

Silky is right. These are some clown ass posts

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I have never even considered that Mafia III would be akin to a PS3-era Americanized Yakuza and now I think I want to play it.

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I will say that the Mafia III comment was purely a joke. I never played the game myself, but I remember it not getting the best of love from the press upon release. I'm sure the game has some quality merits to it though, so my apologies to the Mafia fans.

 

[bobbychalkers]

I have never even considered that Mafia III would be akin to a PS3-era Americanized Yakuza and now I think I want to play it.

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Its not, its just a crime city sandbox

I will say that the Mafia III comment was purely a joke. I never played the game myself, but I remember it not getting the best of love from the press upon release. I'm sure the game has some quality merits to it though, so my apologies to the Mafia fans.

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Its flawed (extremely repetitive) but I stuck with it to the end. The plot, themes, settings and characters do a lot of heavy lifting.

 

[Deleted member 1570]

It sucks that Amy's best design is confined to this series.

 

[Deleted member 17627]

Feels weird that Matt just skips over Colors and Generation, but eh, whatever.

Otherwise, an amazing video from him as always. As someone who followed the game from its reveal, even from back then I also thought that the initial reveal while different, looked interesting. And that it was weird that the final version of the game didn't look or feel anything like what was shown off in the first place, and instead felt like regular Sonic, but much worse and lacking any sort of appeal.

I also remember that Nintendo/Sonic deal that was made, it's a shame that literally not a single good game came out of it.

I'm still kind of interested in why the 3DS version was also awful. And since I'm bringing that up, this is what you get in that game for 100% completion:

 

[The Anonymous Wizard]

Well, they took everything that made a Sonic games a Sonic games and tossed it out. It couldn't be more of a generic 3D action platformer.

I think what makes Sonic Boom bad is fairly obvious. A more complicated question is why the hell is Sonic Mania so great? It's far more than just because it's 2D. The pinball physics, the level design, the challenge of building and maintaining momentum and speed as a reward, all complimenting each other. Not to mention the music and tone... I believe that pinning down all the elements that made Sonic so good is an art form. Many pretty great developers have tried and failed to pin it down.

Sonic Maina feels the perfect Sonic game and, for me at least, it was one of the best gaming experiences I've had in years. BECAUSE the developers weren't just competent game developers but genuine fans that have an understanding of the fundamental parts that made those early Sonic games the cultural phenomenon they were.

 

[NuclearCake]

Just a mess of circumstances beyond the dev's control making for a mess of a game all around. I was so hyped for Sonic Boom when it announced, too. :/

Crap like that usually derails and halts serious discussion, even with some going as far to say "Sonic was never good" in every Sonic thread here, so I guess some Sonic fans are sick of it. *shrugs*

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Dude. There was nothing about my post that was intended to derail. It was just something that came to my mind since i was amused with the title of this thread.

I'm not throwing a tantrum every time someone dislikes a game that i like on the internet. Especially when it's stated in such a obviously non offensive way.

If Sonic fans are really going to get this up and arms about some random people on the internet not liking their favorite games, then they should rethink their priorities.

I don't need to state the obvious but it wasn't me who derailed this thread, it was the user who responded to me. Kind of sums everything up right there. Sonic fans are so defensive and have spend years obsessing and wrapping their identity around a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog designed primarily to appeal to kids, that they see any slight knock against these games as a attack on them personally. (IT'S NOT!)

I'm not going to understate this, If anyone gets even slightly bothered by a post like that in regards to ANYTHING and is above the age of nine. They should grow up!
I don't have to consider before i post if my opinions might hurt Sonic fans feeling or what some of them might or might not be sick of. Don't be absurd.

The funniest thing about this is that it wasn't even off topic. All 3D Sonic games had troubled developments that compromised the games. Boom was effected the same way basically every other 3D Sonic game has, only much more severely.

 

[Rolodzeo]

Wow, after watching the video, I'm honestly impressed they got something playable at all!

 

[justiceiro]

Man, i have a wiiu, should i buy this game in hopes of becoming really valuable down the line?

 

[Phil32]

Dude. There was nothing about my post that was intended to derail. It was just something that came to my mind since i was amused with the title of this thread.

I'm not throwing a tantrum every time someone dislikes a game that i like on the internet. Especially when it's stated in such a obviously non offensive way.

If Sonic fans are really going to get this up and arms about some random people on the internet not liking their favorite games, then they should rethink their priorities.

I don't need to state the obvious but it wasn't me who derailed this thread, it was the user who responded to me. Kind of sums everything up right there. Sonic fans are so defensive and have spend years obsessing and wrapping their identity around a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog designed primarily to appeal to kids, that they see any slight knock against these games as a attack on them personally. (IT'S NOT!)

I'm not going to understate this, If anyone gets even slightly bothered by a post like that in regards to ANYTHING and is above the age of nine. They should grow up!
I don't have to consider before i post if my opinions might hurt Sonic fans feeling or what some of them might or might not be sick of. Don't be absurd.

The funniest thing about this is that it wasn't even off topic. All 3D Sonic games had troubled developments that compromised the games. Boom was effected the same way basically every other 3D Sonic game has, only much more severely.

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Whoa, whoa. I wasn't accusing you of anything. I meant in general, comments like that usually derail Sonic threads so I can see why some fans get defensive. You're good, and sorry to make you go into a diatribe for nothing. :/

 

[Azoor]

Sonic Boom is yet another sad victim of SEGA's incompetence, reading about this and 06's development makes me wish this franchise was in better hands.

 

[TheMink]

I really enjoy this series and this was well done as well. Endlessly fascinating.

 

[HotsauceDragon]

I kinda want Sega to let an american company do a Yakuza spinoff just to see wha would Happun

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It needs the proven formula for success - the inclusion of professional wrestlers and pornographic actresses.

 

[Fat4all]

It needs the proven formula for success - the inclusion of professional wrestlers and pornographic actresses.

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[P-Bo]

Great video by Matt.

I know Iizuka had a hand with Mania--but I'm convinced that was only because Sonic Team didn't think it was going to do well as it did, and felt it unnecessary to sabotage it.

 

[Deleted member 5621]

Holy shit, the producer actually pulled a "single player games are dead".

I am so sorry for Big Red Button.

 

[Hzsn724]

I mean the game just wasn't very good. I even pre-ordered for some reason and received a mini Sonic figure.

The game was just an empty mess with a very boring design that ripped off every other Sonic game to date. There was nothing original about it and the game just wasn't any fun. The 3DS ones weren't terrible, but still nothing to write home about. Beyond that it was slow. No Sonic game should make you feel slow.

 

[Glass Arrows]

I legitimately had no idea of the extent Sega meddled with this game. Maybe it wouldn't have turned out to be good even if they hadn't meddled but this is legitimately some of the worst mishandling of a game I've heard of in quite some time.

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

Rise of Lyric happened. That disaster completely overshadowed the Sonic Boom titles on 3DS (Shattered Crystal and Fire & Ice), both of which were perfectly decent but just didn't stand a chance after Rise of Lyric tanked Boom's reputation.

Fortunately that did not extend to the Sonic Boom animated series, which was genuinely great, ran for two seasons, and was without a doubt one of the best Sonic-related productions ever.

They made a 3D Sonic game. That's what happened.

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Came to see this shitty, beaten-to-death "hot" take in the first few posts, was not disappointed. Not sure why people still think this is an edgy or even relevant thing to say considering the idea that every single 3D Sonic game has been terrible is objectively untrue, and has been for a good while. Thanks for the chuckle, though!