Kathryn Watson @kathrynw5
Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he won't read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland's reversal.
"I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
Per @alanhe
4:09 PM - Nov 5, 2019
You're right, it's essentially a fundraising and recruitment drive for Republicans.
Trump needs to actually be removed from office for it all to be worth it.
1 our of 5 Republicans want him impeached since this all started.
Maybe Snodgrass should've had the balls to spill his guts the first time. Loser.
This will just give the GOP even more ammo to say it's all BS and these people are changing their stories and lying.
Kathryn Watson @kathrynw5
Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he won't read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland's reversal.
"I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
Per @alanhe
4:09 PM - Nov 5, 2019
Not true at all. Trumps favor ability (which was already bad) is tanking further this goes on. He likely won't be removed from office, but he won 2016 by a nut hair and that was with a lot more support than he has now.
Dude, you can choose the window however you want.
Over the past 60 days, the graph has trended flat.
Over the past 40 days, the graph has trended down.
Over the past 20 days, the graph has trended flat.
Over the past 10 days, the graph has trended *up*.
The reason it's been all over the place is because the amounts going up and down are within 1 to 1.5 percentage points, a very small value and well within the statistical noise and error bars of polling. Therefore, in general, the graph has made no significant movements upward or downward.
If you want to play with spin, sure, you can choose exact dates to attempt to maximize a "trend". But no statistician worth their salt would call this a clear trend of anything.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but you have to be realistic. This entire proceeding has not yet had any real affect on changing any of that 41.5%'s mind. Still plenty of time to go, though.
Okay, dude. Far be it from me to remove a line of hope, so okay.If you start at Sept 24, which is the day impeachment proceedings started and not just a convenient yet arbitrary selection, the trend is absolutely down. Approval has some humps along the way but the trend is negative. Disapproval is much more consistently up. I really think you're downplaying what the data is indicating. It's not world changing but it's down.
It's not Republican voters you need to convince (because most of them are always going to side with Trump). It's Independent voters.
If anything, Trump will have more shit to worry about, like state charges & civil lawsuits. Pardoning Trump for federal crimes won't save him.
Kathryn Watson @kathrynw5
Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he won't read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland's reversal.
"I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
Per @alanhe
4:09 PM - Nov 5, 2019
Okay, dude. Far be it from me to remove a line of hope, so okay.
Kathryn Watson @kathrynw5
Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he won't read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland's reversal.
"I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
Per @alanhe
4:09 PM - Nov 5, 2019
How can they keep doing this, how do they refuse to be held accountable?
Kathryn Watson @kathrynw5
Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he won't read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland's reversal.
"I've written the whole process off ... I think this is a bunch of B.S."
Per @alanhe
4:09 PM - Nov 5, 2019
sondland is a mary sueTypical strategy of a ResetERA member who gets destroyed in a thread.
Variation of "What a week huh." "Lemon, it's Wednesday" clip. My joke failed miserably :)
The Democrats keep getting more ammunition, they have to be savvy about using it. They're playing by old media rules and playing nice when they are constantly kicked in the face as a response, play by their rules for a change.
Mike Pence is involved in this. Impeachment must involve Pence as much as it does Trump.
Mike Pence is involved in this. Impeachment must involve Pence as much as it does Trump.
Why is it so hard for Republicans to actually work and do their jobs?
The "Whitelash" is real. A black man deared ascend to the highest officer in the land and now 30% country wants to burn it all to the ground.Y'all need to truly understand how Obama winning two terms broke them. Like, legit broke them.
And the fact that a woman almost followed him up
All bets are off at this point. They fighting for the "American dream". Fuck em. I'll enjoy them going down kicking and screaming, turning on each other in the process.
I don't believe it's trump. A fee weeks ago a couple of Russian shock jocks released some tapes of conversations they had with Graham. I firmly believe that was a warning shot
Honestly, the little bit I saw of this seems more like throwing Pence under the bus than Trump.Mike Pence is involved in this. Impeachment must involve Pence as much as it does Trump.
Y'all need to truly understand how Obama winning two terms broke them. Like, legit broke them.
And the fact that a woman almost followed him up
All bets are off at this point. They fighting for the "American dream". Fuck em. I'll enjoy them going down kicking and screaming, turning on each other in the process.
What were those conversations about (roughly)?I don't believe it's trump. A fee weeks ago a couple of Russian shock jocks released some tapes of conversations they had with Graham. I firmly believe that was a warning shot
Graham talking shit about Trump
Yeah, the same guys who always have the updated capital hill directory for some reason
Yeah, the same guys who always have the updated capital hill directory for some reason
It is tin foil hat shit but stranger things have happenedEh, I don't think it's hard to call anyone's office really. They were pretending to be an informant on the call with Schiff and some official in Turkey when talking to Graham. Maybe there's some bigger strategy involving the Russian government but I'm not sure it's to send messages about dirt they have. Can't imagine they've got much on Schiff, or at least he's not behaving as if they do. I think Lindsey Graham is just shitty.
I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't eventually backroom deals where the Senate does vote to remove provided the House leaves Pence alone. There's a deal to be had where the GOP gets to avoid President Pelosi and the Dems get to toss out Trump.
If that were the case, I could see the House agreeing to it. Pence would have no chance in the 2020 election, and the House would get what they want which is Trump removed.
GOP has already started spinning quid pro quo is a common thing and not against the law. So I'm not shocked by this.
What the hell? I'm amazed an adult, let alone a senator, could say something so ridiculously churlish. But then I remember this is Lindsey Graham; it is kinda his thing. This is an admission of utter bias and party before country.
I never thought of it this way with Nixon until Trump, but if Nixon took Trump's defense, which was just to deny, deny, deny, and then when you're caught, say, well there's nothing wrong with it, and INSIST on that, and then to demean everybody who breaks from you, then I think Nixon could have survived Watergate. Nixon only resigned when 3 close Republican senators went to him and told him he was in trouble, and then he resigned. But, Nixon wasn't as brazen as Trump, and even while Nixon was a conspiratorial alcoholic finding conspirators at every turn, he actually tried to maintain some personal credibility.
Nixon was super concerned with his legacy, and while Trump is very concerned with what people think of him, he's very adept at making his own legacy in his mind and believing that. Nixon also came out of the House and the Senate, and because of that I think he was less willing to brazenly oppose a co-equal branch of government that he came out of. Trump legitimately believes that, as president, you are king of America, because he has no understanding of civics.
You're right, it's essentially a fundraising and recruitment drive for Republicans.
Trump needs to actually be removed from office for it all to be worth it.
I'll still say it because I'm a pessimist . I have no faith that whoever needs to step up will get anything done .How come the people who say nothing will happen to Trump just coincidentally are never in threads like this?
Rand Paul you dumb shit. Of course we use aid and tariffs and all sorts of things to get foreign countries to do what we want. What we don't do is use that stuff to get a leg up on domestic matters, such as influencing a future presidential election.
Josh Jordan @NumbersMuncher
Lindsey Graham now going after Sondland, implying that the reason he changed his testimony was to partner with Schiff as some sort of deep state asset.
What Graham doesn't mention is that Sondland donated a million dollars to Trump's inaugural committee.
7:47 PM - Nov 6, 2019