I have always had a soft spot for Wonder Woman, even though I'm not that into superheroes - I've read some comics here and there but mostly watched animated stuff, series and movies.
And growing up without internet the picture I had of her was someone who is basically as strong and tough as Superman. And indeed, there is some things that point in that direction, but I would say that the "final" word on the subject is that Wonder Woman is clearly not Superman's match. Inconsistent power levels is something common to superhero stories, and WW is in particular a strong victim of that (her weakness to bullets and sharp objectives being a good example of that). She sometimes can be portrayed as someone that can take on Superman, but possibly more often that not as someone who is in at least one league below him. I can remember that episode for JLA where she can barely keep up with one of his villains for example. And that was an adaptation of a comic book storyline.
And that's why I mentioned The Boys and Invincible on the title. Both these shows (comics I guess as well, but I'm talking about the shows alone, so please spoiler tag anything about the comics) have a Justice League analogue, and in consequence a Wonder Woman analogue: Queen Maeve and War Woman. Both are decisively outclassed by each series respective Superman analogues. Now, this is obviously more than just about WW and it has to do with the stories they wanted to tell. But I think this is a cool illustration to... illustrate what I'm talking about.
I suppose Superman is always meant to be the most powerful character, it's part of his mythos, and in consequence DC's. And the series I mentioned tap into that more than anything else, the idea of something that powerful existing. And many DC stories revolve around that. And sometimes I feel Wonder Woman is a bit trapped in that. Because it seems sometimes you have to believe she can take on Superman, sometimes you have to go with the idea that she is not his match. The latter being more "truthful" than the former.
Maybe I'm just being unreasonable here. But The Boys made me rethink of this and recently Invincible make me rerethink of it.
Do you guys have any opinion about that? Hopefully this thread is not too incoherent.
And growing up without internet the picture I had of her was someone who is basically as strong and tough as Superman. And indeed, there is some things that point in that direction, but I would say that the "final" word on the subject is that Wonder Woman is clearly not Superman's match. Inconsistent power levels is something common to superhero stories, and WW is in particular a strong victim of that (her weakness to bullets and sharp objectives being a good example of that). She sometimes can be portrayed as someone that can take on Superman, but possibly more often that not as someone who is in at least one league below him. I can remember that episode for JLA where she can barely keep up with one of his villains for example. And that was an adaptation of a comic book storyline.
And that's why I mentioned The Boys and Invincible on the title. Both these shows (comics I guess as well, but I'm talking about the shows alone, so please spoiler tag anything about the comics) have a Justice League analogue, and in consequence a Wonder Woman analogue: Queen Maeve and War Woman. Both are decisively outclassed by each series respective Superman analogues. Now, this is obviously more than just about WW and it has to do with the stories they wanted to tell. But I think this is a cool illustration to... illustrate what I'm talking about.
I suppose Superman is always meant to be the most powerful character, it's part of his mythos, and in consequence DC's. And the series I mentioned tap into that more than anything else, the idea of something that powerful existing. And many DC stories revolve around that. And sometimes I feel Wonder Woman is a bit trapped in that. Because it seems sometimes you have to believe she can take on Superman, sometimes you have to go with the idea that she is not his match. The latter being more "truthful" than the former.
Maybe I'm just being unreasonable here. But The Boys made me rethink of this and recently Invincible make me rerethink of it.
Do you guys have any opinion about that? Hopefully this thread is not too incoherent.
