What the fuck. Sounds like he was created in a lab to assuage white guilt.Should mention the quote about giving slave owner reparations. Dude is a fucking monster.
What the fuck. Sounds like he was created in a lab to assuage white guilt.Should mention the quote about giving slave owner reparations. Dude is a fucking monster.
If you want a reason to punch something today....
Larry Elder on reparations for slave owners and Candace Owens in complete agreement. Unbelievable!
Larry Elder thinks slave owner deserve reparations. If California governor doesn’t work out for him, he can always run for Grand Wizard of the KKK.www.youtube.com
Sam Jackson was fucking perfect in that role.
I think the post was funny and was easy to see the connection. Weird thing to get hung up on here. Given the trash level of human this guy is.I think if you're going to call someone an Uncle Tom you should just be up front about it.
This guyI watched part of his concession speech. He is scum of the earth. This POC(piece of crap), had an crowd with no one of color in it and tried to normalize systemic racism.
While it was closer than anyone would like I'm pretty sure the consensus once all the votes were tallied was that it wasn't really that close in the grand scheme of thingsI mean, to be fair, it was a very close election. Not sure what's so funny with the idea that some Kanye stans would be voting for Kanye. But obviously if you saw people saying that millions of Black folks would flock to Kanye, then, yeah, they could have been laughed at. I see this argument now used in defense of Kanye and his presidential run, though I'm sure that's not what you were doing.
Wanting to be "special" they get a few white people to say "you're one of the good ones" and it's food to their ego. Getting told you are better than your peers is what drives the act. Though they never realize that at the first sign of trouble those same white folks are the first to throw them under the bus.I do find it kind of fascinating when I see super conservative black people. Like what went into their childhood/upbringing that led to this? How do they reconcile/ignore the massive cognitive dissonance between what's actually happening/what they see and what they say. I just don't get how they become a thing
While it was closer than anyone would like I'm pretty sure the consensus once all the votes were tallied was that it wasn't really that close in the grand scheme of things
If you want a reason to punch something today....
Larry Elder on reparations for slave owners and Candace Owens in complete agreement. Unbelievable!
Larry Elder thinks slave owner deserve reparations. If California governor doesn’t work out for him, he can always run for Grand Wizard of the KKK.www.youtube.com
when it comes to black voters everyone liberal, left, right, and everything in between often goes with "blacks will vote for the black guy". When that is often farthest from the truth.
I think if you're going to call someone an Uncle Tom you should just be up front about it.
This is incorrect. It was not close in terms of the final number of electoral votes. But the number of votes required to change the outcome was incredibly small.While it was closer than anyone would like I'm pretty sure the consensus once all the votes were tallied was that it wasn't really that close in the grand scheme of things
One of the first things that tells me you ain't serious.Amen.
And extend this to surrogates. Note to white progressives: stop campaigning with Killer Mike. That man ain't gonna do shit for you.
One of the first things that tells me you ain't serious.
Homeboy was all about the revolution until the revolution was on his front door
If you want a reason to punch something today....
Larry Elder on reparations for slave owners and Candace Owens in complete agreement. Unbelievable!
Larry Elder thinks slave owner deserve reparations. If California governor doesn’t work out for him, he can always run for Grand Wizard of the KKK.www.youtube.com
It made sense for people to think that Kanye could have been a 3rd party spoiler, at a certain point. And GOP operatives sure as hell tried to make it happen that way.
Yep. Just completely out of touchI remember people in this very forum being afraid Kanye's joke run for president would take votes away from Biden and give Trump the win. lol
I mean I don't know what to tell you. Kanye West is one of the most famous people in the world, and literally has a following in the millions. If you think it was unreasonable to think he could get, say, 20k votes in a state to help flip an election, then, that's fine, I think we disagree though.It never did though. Black voters absolutely were not going to vote for Kanye, period. In many ways
1)Old black folks barely know who he is, and 'popular rapper' isn't going to get them galvanized
2)He's alienated all of his more politically aware music fan base that might have voted for him by his run of shenanigans including being a Trumper/slavery was a choice (bringing us back to the crux of the post on black conservatives).
3)Maybe you have a cross section of hypebeast type voters that might have turned out for shits and giggles, but those young edgelords don't vote period, which is a problem no one had solved across the political spectrum.
It was a pretty cynical read on the black voter base by the GOP (similar to when they had Lil Wayne show up to endorse Trump for a pardon towards the end) and kind of fed on by a paranoid/subconsciously racist political consultants and commentators.
So yeah, something like 5k vote difference with a true Jill Stein candidate...nightmare scenario. But Kanye was such a terrible candidate with much more baggage; I would argue if he ran he would have syphoned off more Trump votes than Biden.
Yes it's very unreasonble to say he could get 20k in one state. He spent 9million to get 60k votes totalI mean I don't know what to tell you. Kanye West is one of the most famous people in the world, and literally has a following in the millions. If you think it was unreasonable to think he could get, say, 20k votes in a state to help flip an election, then, that's fine, I think we disagree though.
I think I do agree with much of everything else you said. Kanye was going off the rails at the time, but he was still actively being groomed by people like Candice Owens to help Trump win.
I think it was a lot of different factors that made Kanye fall flat, like Kanye not taking it serious enough, really going off the rails saying stupid nonsensical and downright racist shit while also sounding almost suicidal at points around the same time, and then not even bothering to get on the ballot almost anywhere that contributed to him not having much of an effect on anything.
Amen.
And extend this to surrogates. Note to white progressives: stop campaigning with Killer Mike. That man ain't gonna do shit for you.
I suspect the majority of Kanye votes came from edgy white first time voters and very few black folks.Yes it's very unreasonble to say he could get 20k in one state. He spent 9million to get 60k votes total
But again, we know that NOW. I think some of y'all don't remember how uncertain the 2020 election was in the summer of 2020. Especially after Trump's win in 2016, which was due, in part, to 3rd party spoilers.Yes it's very unreasonble to say he could get 20k in one state. He spent 9million to get 60k votes total
But again, we know that NOW. I think some of y'all don't remember how uncertain the 2020 election was in the summer of 2020. Especially after his win in 2016, which was due, in part, to 3rd party spoilers.
I mean no arguments here, and I think that was proven then, just like it is now with Elder, just like it has been time and time again. But we learend with Trump that fame can carry you a long ways with the American voting populace, but thankfully, nobody was buying the shit Kanye was selling.Black voters tend to be some of the most discerning voters in the country. They were never going to vote in any considerable number for Kanye.
White people are the ones who vote for celebrity egomaniacs and grifters.
Yes it's very unreasonble to say he could get 20k in one state. He spent 9million to get 60k votes total
He was living in Wyoming at the time so he voted for himself (IIRC he wrote in his name)What's the story behind the 1 from Wyoming? There's gotta be somethin.
I think I do agree with much of everything else you said. Kanye was going off the rails at the time, but he was still actively being groomed by people like Candice Owens to help Trump win.
I mean you're right lol. Kanye made it so his presidential run would pretty much appeal to nobody. Had he actually tried to go a non-MAGA route and didn't circle around with known White Supremacists, he maybe could have made a mark. But that's neither here nor there. Kanye is, who Kanye is.But that's the thing right? They groomed him the wrong way, lol. Obviously we can agree to disagree: I would never say a popular guy like Kanye couldn't be a spoiler on paper, huge social media presence: seeing his name on a voter form would give you pause.
Problem is Candace Owens, Jared…these aren't the people you want to groom a spoiler candidate to syphon off Dem votes. A Kanye…pre-Trump hat, pre TMZ meltdowns, would have been a problem for Biden. Not the shell of a human running around selling gospel music remixes during his presidency. Once he gave Trump that hug outside of the hotel he damned himself as anyone who could get any sort of left leaning votes, and they did no work to remedy that. I would argue Yang was probably what they needed to crib notes from (Dem leaning but not being a Dem) but instead we got a beta version of Elder's campaign.
Even El-P was like 'nah' when the NRA used his assOne of the first things that tells me you ain't serious.
Homeboy was all about the revolution until the revolution was on his front door
I think a big problem is a lack of empathy, and a lack of empathy knows no racial borders. Conservatives are heavily individualistic, which leads to a lack of empathy for those beyond your immediate orbit. They can't fathom a tax increase that would lead to the benefit of everyone, because "why should I pay for blah blah blah". Fuck you, got mine. Individual rights and protections vs rights and protections for all, etc etc.
I've had the great displeasure of listening to Larry Elder's show a few times, and he's the same as all of the other conservative radio wackos. People see right through that shit.
One of the first things that tells me you ain't serious.
Homeboy was all about the revolution until the revolution was on his front door
One of the first things that tells me you ain't serious.
Homeboy was all about the revolution until the revolution was on his front door
If you want a reason to punch something today....
Larry Elder on reparations for slave owners and Candace Owens in complete agreement. Unbelievable!
Larry Elder thinks slave owner deserve reparations. If California governor doesn’t work out for him, he can always run for Grand Wizard of the KKK.www.youtube.com
They were actually given reparations in in Washington DC. Lincoln proposed to enact it in Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri, but it was defeated. He also had thoughts to do it in the South, but they seceded before it could be debated. There were a number of countries that did this.
I absolutely agree. I don't think they deserved compensation for emancipation then, either. I guess my point (which I didn't elucidate) was that this kind of silly appeasement shit isn't a new thought, and it never went away and comes up when people start discussing things like the effects of slavery and its impact on generational wealth. They ignore and repurpose the argument about the loss/denial of wealth creation due to slavery and Jim Crow and then start putting out this as though they feel they were ripped off somehow. Larry Elder isn't coming up with this out of his ass... he's speaking from the playbook.I understand the thinking at the time in terms of people as property. But anyone saying that slave owners deserve reparations in this day and age knows exactly what they're peddling, and it's not "fairness."
i think people like him start off being very materialistic and thinking that having money means you are better. he gravitates towards republicans because they are the party of the rich and just morphs into what he is now.With someone like Larry it makes me wonder how fucked up his family was. It's one thing to lean conservative, but to get to the point where you argue against civil rights and slave owners deserving reparations?
I have to imagine the people closest to him(parents/granparents/uncles/aunts/etc) were saying or doing some fucked things in his life to make him so anti black.
Guess this thread could use a bump
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