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Something about Game Pass we shouldn't forget: We don't own those games.
- Thread starter Fiery Phoenix
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eyy, is this a game pass thread?
time to post my gif :D
What a cruel salesman, she's not even letting people know they don't own the hundred+ games included on the service.
Something about PSPlus and Games With Gold offered free games we shouldn't forget: We don't own those games.
eyy, is this a game pass thread?
time to post my gif :D
Is this 30 or 60 FPS? :)
Game pass has that. On mobile, on xbox, and I assume on the internet, but I haven't looked for that one.
Damn really? Thought i really owned 300+ games in the "netflix for games" service forever. I been bamboozled!!
It's the model tons of services use as well. Netflix, Spotify. That's the convenience: pay pennies to be able to access tons of stuff, without actually owning anything. Good thing actual buying games isn't going away anytime soon.
Game Pass announces games leaving several weeks in advance, they even put it front and centre in the app on PC.
Of course you don't own the games, they are very clear about that.
Of course you don't own the games, they are very clear about that.
I recall getting a push notification on my phone telling me what games are leaving in the next month.
You do own the digital license to the OG Xbox/360 games from Games with Gold.
Sucks for your buddy, but a good lesson that when you see an episodic series you want to start on GP, keep an eye on the Leaving Soon page.
As for me, thank god I don't own these. Happy to keep moving forward and if I really want to replay a game that's left, as long as i still have the option to buy it later, I'm good.
Part of me is also starting to look at/value it as a Day One pass for MS' games, instead of a more general catalogue.
The leaving soon section is very prominent on all the Gamepass UIs even the mobile app will show it to you.
Its already been a thing for years but the fact that we have threads were people are basically warning people that they may have to BUY the games they like is a really sad state of affairs.
Not a fan of subscription services for this very reason.
Not a fan of subscription services for this very reason.
Yes indeed this started recently too, if you have the app installed.
I played Observer on Gamepass, was a little sad when it left, but I loved it so much I bought it and Layers of Fear.
I'm not seeing that on the PC game pass app, but even then that's not really enough. A couple of things I think they could do is make it clear on the game's page when it's leaving the service, and give notifications when it's announced that games are leaving/entering the service. I hear the latter is already done with the mobile app but they could do this on Xbox One and PC as well.
How are people still getting the $1 deal? Every great offer I see is for new users. Am I doing something wrong because as an existing user, there's no other option other than paying $15/month for ultimate?
The issue of a game leaving when you're halfway through playing it is a bummer and kind of unavoidable with a rotating catalogue.
I really don't think most people care about ownership beyond that specific case these days though.
I really don't think most people care about ownership beyond that specific case these days though.
Sure butvthey do tell you ehich games are leaving soon. Tell your friend to purchase life is strange and before the storm if/when they can afford it. Not many games deserve it as much as those and they're really cheap and always on sale these days, such excellent games.
I understand that but some people may not have even tried the games in the first place. You'd see the comments in the past "I'll wait for a Steam sale." or "I'll wait till it comes to GWG/PS+." Some people are frugal or just can't spend money on everything they want to try or may like. I know I would have never even tried Slay the Spire outside of Gamepass and I ended up loving it.
I would love to see how many gamers actually replay a game (excluding multi-player). If people only play through a game once, then they probably don't care that they never "own" it as long as they get to experience it and get their achievements.
I'd rather support developers by buying their game. Control just got a lot of exposure by winning game of the year, so more people will actually buy the game. Remedy struggling with sales in the past deserves better.
I don't think anybody doesn't have this factor into their view of the service. It's not like digital games, your interaction with the games isn't really anywhere near the same as it would be if you owned them.
The only way you could be thinking you owned them is to be actively misinformed, and it's not like anyone's trying to do that. Yet, at least.
The only way you could be thinking you owned them is to be actively misinformed, and it's not like anyone's trying to do that. Yet, at least.
Wow I've never seen this gif so fluid before, it's always choppy as hell.eyy, is this a game pass thread?
time to post my gif :D
People saying they announce the games leaving... I'm currently on Game Pass PC, and I just booted the client. If there's information there about what's leaving soon, I don't know where it is and I've looked all over. It's certainly not obvious. Maybe there's a Windows message pop-up if you boot a game that's leaving soon?
It's easy to forget what great value it is. A decade ago I was spending $15 per month on a physical game rental delivery service, like GameFly, and that was for one game at a time. You rarely got the game you really wanted, and if you wanted your first or second choices you might have to wait who knows how long. Plus delivery there and back it was effectively $15 to play one game at a time, for 2/3rds of the month. Now, you pay $15 to play dozens of games whenever you want. That's excellent.
I'm not going to stay subbed though. Most likely what I might do is pay for a couple months each year and focus on the top few games I really want to play. With online play being free on PC, being charged the same $15 as console which includes Xbox Live, for what iirc is a smaller selection, isn't ideal. Plus, the Windows Store continues to be crap and often unreliable.
It's easy to forget what great value it is. A decade ago I was spending $15 per month on a physical game rental delivery service, like GameFly, and that was for one game at a time. You rarely got the game you really wanted, and if you wanted your first or second choices you might have to wait who knows how long. Plus delivery there and back it was effectively $15 to play one game at a time, for 2/3rds of the month. Now, you pay $15 to play dozens of games whenever you want. That's excellent.
I'm not going to stay subbed though. Most likely what I might do is pay for a couple months each year and focus on the top few games I really want to play. With online play being free on PC, being charged the same $15 as console which includes Xbox Live, for what iirc is a smaller selection, isn't ideal. Plus, the Windows Store continues to be crap and often unreliable.
Football Manager just left last week, I knew a couple of weeks ago because the game icon on the left had an exclamation mark on it. Hovered over it and it said the game will be leaving soon.
Ah, that's fine then. Is there a similar warning before you install something, that it's leaving soon?
I don't own anything on Netflix and I've been subscribed for ten years, same with Spotify. It's still super convenient.
It's in multiple sections of the gamepass "storefront" iirc, and I think xbox sends you a message when things are leaving (might be wrong on this - I thought I got some kind of message about it a bit ago but cant find it)
Technically you don't. You own a license to access and play those games for as long as those licenses are active. Technically, the licenses on Steam as of this moment do not have an expiration date, except for the moment when the service, that those licenses are tied to, in this case Steam, shuts down.
Could you imagine how many of the Gamepass companies would be shutting down doors, if DL on gamepass = Own forever?
The overwhelming number of products (roughly as many as where available for once system in a Blockbuster back in the day) keeps the "you don't own these!" firmly in mind.
I think the idea they offer discounts for the games that are leaving, is pretty aces, though. Before "The Surge" left, you could get the game to own for $5. That's even cheaper than it was when Toys 'R' Us was closing.
The first game that leaves without notice stings. But once you start really paying attention to Gamepass, it becomes a much more natural, easy to notice element of the service. Sales, Weekly and Monthly Quest, and even the Gold and Monthly deals, all act aware of the changes on Gamepass.
The overwhelming number of products (roughly as many as where available for once system in a Blockbuster back in the day) keeps the "you don't own these!" firmly in mind.
I think the idea they offer discounts for the games that are leaving, is pretty aces, though. Before "The Surge" left, you could get the game to own for $5. That's even cheaper than it was when Toys 'R' Us was closing.
The first game that leaves without notice stings. But once you start really paying attention to Gamepass, it becomes a much more natural, easy to notice element of the service. Sales, Weekly and Monthly Quest, and even the Gold and Monthly deals, all act aware of the changes on Gamepass.
These threads seem designed to inspire FUD. No one subscribes to Netflix thinking they own the movies, and everyone rationally understands that games can be removed from those services.
I doubt that this thread--or any thread like it--is written in good faith. It's a fucking subscription service, you'd have to be the stupidest motherfucker alive to not understand how this works.
I doubt that this thread--or any thread like it--is written in good faith. It's a fucking subscription service, you'd have to be the stupidest motherfucker alive to not understand how this works.
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