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Social media is absolutely trashing Pokémon and Masuda for not including all Pokémon in Sword and Shield
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Ironically, this would make "catching them ALL" truly unattainable.
Or just spend a sliver of their Pokebillions on getting some Chinese company to do all the animations that Game Freak can't handle.
Really they should have just announced that full compatibility would be added in the future. Then nobody would be upset because we had to wait for Pokemon Bank compatibility until after the launch of the last few games anyway. They made it seem like this is permanent, which knowing GF and their attitude towards game updates, may well be true.
Surely they can't be so dumb that they thought this decision wouldn't cause a shitstorm?
Then delay the fucking game so you can make those previously created 3D models and animations work in Sword and Shield.
I don't recall Sun and Moon having 801 Pokemon roaming freely in the overworld. I doubt they would program all that AI and not use it in the game (I don't see why the 3DS wouldn't handle a couple Pokemon per screen).
Even if they did, it still takes resources to QA all that movement in a new gameplay environment (e.g. new open world, free camera, etc.) What I'm arguing is that Game Freak clearly has the resources for this, but are clearly not investing enough to get this done.
It's not as simple as copy pasting models. They'll have to do touch ups to make sure it looks good. They might be adding new animations. And if course, there's monstrous amounts of testing just to make sure everything works. It's not a simple software engineering task at all.
You can speak for yourself, but personally, I'd much rather not have the game delayed. There's more than enough Pokemon in the game for it to be fun as it is imo.
When this happened with Ruby/Sapphire I was upset about it, but now that we have nearly 1,000 Pokemon I actually feel like Pokemon games would probably be better with just a subset of them. I think focusing on a smaller number of them will make the experience more meaningful and less overwhelming.
Yes, you can believe it. People will defend anything. And we all know it.
Delay the game. No one is asking for more crunch. We're asking for more than the bare minimum. The models are already done FFS.
It was already reasonable before.
Completing the pokedex and all the rewards you would get from it in the last generation were obtainable by capturing and trading ingame pokemon.
They did all that without screwing people who wanted to transfer in non dex pokemon they had been using and building for years.
Even having HD models for all Pokemon, I'm sure there's other work involved in taking all existing Pokemon from the 3DS games to the Switch. It makes sense to release Sword and Shield with a limited amount this year and an improved version next year. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy this year's version, you can just skip it and get the next version or gen.
Seems weird to be angry about this when they are telling people upfront.
Seems weird to be angry about this when they are telling people upfront.
It's not just the 3D models... Each Pokemon needs to have its moveset and level up moves updated each generation, support the new TMs etc, while still keeping it all balanced. I think it's comparable to a TCG game - at some point you need to rotate cards out of the 'standard' format to keep it all from breaking.
It's disappointing but I'm not sure it was avoidable without really limiting the number of new Pokemon going forward.
It's disappointing but I'm not sure it was avoidable without really limiting the number of new Pokemon going forward.
Why are people so quick to dismiss any criticism towards a game...This is completely valid criticism.
People getting spoiled with every character being in Smash. Do we need EVERY pokemon in every game going forward? Come on! There are too many pokemon to begin with. A lot of them are really silly. Let them cut the unpopular ones and focus on the ones people actually care about. More isn't always better
Good. There are too many Pokemon dragging these games down. Let's hope they keep it too a slim 200 or less.
Go GaaS. Release new regions and Pokémon on a trimestral basis or whatever.
But don't let them out.
But don't let them out.
Delaying cost even more money and will hurt the franchise. Having a balance between releases, quality and content is the key of Pokemon's success. A great game, which comes in 2019, balanced around the given, limited number of Pokemons, will be a better game foe the audience and the producers, then the same with 900 Pokemon randonly thrown into the game.
It's also important for the series, then you get to meet new Pokemon, which can be your new favorite companien. It keeps the series fresh.
It's maybe not unreasonable to assume that The Pokemon Company (the BIGGEST ENTERTAINMENT BRAND) has the resources to model all of the Pokemon.
Is this why Mega Evolutions were replaced with Dynamaxing? Because you don't need a new model for giganto battling? lmao
Is this why Mega Evolutions were replaced with Dynamaxing? Because you don't need a new model for giganto battling? lmao
But what do you have is a lot of people implying that almost 700 or something Pokémon can just be dumped into the game because the work is already done on a totally different sub-HD platform.
Just import the models 5head
The work is done on what the 3DS? Do you think it's as simple as just importing the models?
I don't even give a shit about this game but these expectations just seem wildly unrealistic. Sure they can delay the game but I imagine that would increase the development time substantially.
Good, keep up the heat, it's a stupid decision.
Old Pokemon are just reusing old models and animations. There is a reason XY models were so high poly for 3DS.
It's not a "simple" solution, but I guarantee the inevitable updated rereleases will have the full national pokedex as a selling point.
So why should I buy Sword and Shield and not just wait until those?
Personally, I would delete Jynx before any of those Pokemon. Though they did fix her design, meaning I hate it less than I did before. Besides, every Pokemon is someone's favorite which is why this announcement caused such a big shitstorm in the first place.
Umm, my friend, you just posted a video of static running animations. That has nothing to do with AI.
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I'll just leave this here.
These exist for ALL existing pokemon.
The work has already been put in. These models and animations already exist and are being used in Sword and Shield already.
Not only that, but the models are actually incredibly detailed and incredibly smoothed out, some say unnecessarily so because it impacts 3DS performance, but it future proofs for situations like this. These textures exist. These animations exist. These models exist.
When people are asking for all the pokemon, they aren't asking for everything to be encounterable in the wild, or for trainers to have every pokemon. Just to let the previous games be transferable into your boxes and party.
I'll just leave this here.
These exist for ALL existing pokemon.
The work has already been put in. These models and animations already exist and are being used in Sword and Shield already.
Not only that, but the models are actually incredibly detailed and incredibly smoothed out, some say unnecessarily so because it impacts 3DS performance, but it future proofs for situations like this. These textures exist. These animations exist. These models exist.
When people are asking for all the pokemon, they aren't asking for everything to be encounterable in the wild, or for trainers to have every pokemon. Just to let the previous games be transferable into your boxes and party.
In the treehouse they said Dynomax would be replacing Mega's and Z moves. I didn't hear the exact wording regarding how this would work.
Man, so what's the point of having that new Pokémon bank system if half of the little monsters can't be played with on sword/shield. Something ain't right
This is really disappointing. Went from "must buy" to "skip" pretty hard on this game because the biggest appeal to me was bringing my entire Pokemon collection (3DS, Go and Let's Go) together in the game.
This news makes me just want to wait for the game that does bring it all together.
This news makes me just want to wait for the game that does bring it all together.
Yeah this is a huge fuckup, so they deserve the criticism. Even if they didn't have the HD models already made (they do), these aren't million-polygon car models.
I understand the concerns about balancing, but it's not like all of the existing Pokémon are completely balanced anyway.... there are top tier and low tier as-is. And plenty of them have identical typing and move sets. Plus, the work has already been done with all of those Pokemon in the previous games. You're really just balancing new Pokémon into that mix, no?
I understand the concerns about balancing, but it's not like all of the existing Pokémon are completely balanced anyway.... there are top tier and low tier as-is. And plenty of them have identical typing and move sets. Plus, the work has already been done with all of those Pokemon in the previous games. You're really just balancing new Pokémon into that mix, no?
Whe they released X and Y they made 3D models from the ground up for 700+ Pokémon and make a Pokémon game in 3D for the first time and animations form all of them, they should've commited to bring all the Pokémon.
We don't need a new Pokémon game every year. There are AAA franchises that Pokémon makes way more money than that take 3-5 years between releases. There is no reason Pokémon can't do the same.
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But nobody was thinking you could transfer Go Pokemon to here?
I have no faith that Game Freak will rebalance things in a significant way.
There will be canned tomatoes in this game as far as the eye can see with a very clear pecking order. There will be the powerful pokemon, the okay ones and the terrible, same as before.
So things will feel the same but...just with half or more the roster missing.
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