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So, where do you think the whole MS x Nintendo thing will go?
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I'm hoping Rare stuff with Nintendo history gets, Switch and Xbox releases with crossplay. Imagine GoldenEye remastered with cross play.....laaaaaawd.
What about Steam local streaming app? Stadia? Ubi streaming? Nvidia streaming? PsNow? Why stop at Xcloud?
Yeah, idk...it could happen i guess. iOS has things like steam, kindle, spotify.
That would mean features on the switch which Nintendo is against.
I think we will inevitably get the Bsnjo games on switch. God I hope we get nuts and bolts too.
Phil Spencer actually had a feature today in Kotaku where he outlined this "relationship" by describing themselves as one of many third party publishers for the Switch and that they don't speak CEO to CEO with Nintendo but through the same channels as every other third party. It just seems like a standard platform holder and publisher relationship.
Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Says Banjo In Smash Was An Easy Deal To Make
Nintendo’s penultimate E3 announcement today involved the addition of a Microsoft-owned character to Smash Bros. This kind of company crossover between two platform holders might seem extraordinary, but Xbox boss Phil Spencer said that it was actually a pretty easy deal.
kotaku.com
Can't see it being much more than what has already happened. Probably get Ori and a few other smaller games but otherwise I think all the talk of xCloud etc. is just forum wet dreams.
I don't think we'll see a lot more. People are wanting Gamepass, I don't think we'll see that on Switch. Hopefully a version of Rare Replay hits Switch, and by that, only the Rare titles that appeared on Nintendo consoles.
On another note, Super Lucky's Tale is coming, and that's another Xbox exclusive.
On another note, Super Lucky's Tale is coming, and that's another Xbox exclusive.
I would lose my shit if they announced they.
Hell, I'd be over the moon just with a remaster of the original.
I wouldn't be surprised if more ID@Xbox games, that previously had exclusivity deals, came over to Switch as the Xbox Live API grows on the platform. Being able to stream games also seems a big win, but I don't expect a lot of native ports from Microsoft themselves.
That seems to be more of a Ninja Gaiden kinda deal than something driven by Microsoft. It's not the same game and instead it's a reimagining of what was previously released on Xbox/PC.
That seems to be more of a Ninja Gaiden kinda deal than something driven by Microsoft. It's not the same game and instead it's a reimagining of what was previously released on Xbox/PC.
Rare Replay on Nintendo Switch is absolutely not going to happen. A huge amount of those games are not ports, they are just directly the Xbox 360 versions. I could maybe see them considering a port of Nuts & Bolts, but Perfect Dark Zone? Jetpac Refueled? Kameo? Not a damn chance.
Banjo-Kazooie, Tooie and maaaaybe the new Battletoads (not developed by Rare) will probably come to Nintendo Switch but I do not expect anything beyond that. Shame too, since I think the Viva Pinata games would be an excellent choice for the platform. Oh wait, Rare never made good games after they joined Microsoft, right? Nevermind!
Banjo-Kazooie, Tooie and maaaaybe the new Battletoads (not developed by Rare) will probably come to Nintendo Switch but I do not expect anything beyond that. Shame too, since I think the Viva Pinata games would be an excellent choice for the platform. Oh wait, Rare never made good games after they joined Microsoft, right? Nevermind!
Seems particularly unlikely in the case of Nintendo which is a very centralized company and still does things in ways that are unreasonably focused on Japan like their online system and the smartphone app.
Again, let's not forget that this is a company that has like 95% of its development force in Japan and that these stints with Microsoft have largely been small stuff here and there. I mean, they're finally working on a Western license again (Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3) and it's with a Japanese developer. And NoA is finally pushing some extremely anime stuff from NCL (Xenoblade, Fire Emblem...)
The decline of smaller Nintendo games is regrettable, I agree. I hope we see more collaborations with companies like Vanpool, Grounding Inc., Grezzo and Syn Sophia again. But I don't think that has much to do with NoA getting some autonomy back and putting it into third party relationships.
Which features? They already allow Xbox live integration through Minecraft and soon Cuphead. They also are going to start allowing things like Hulu right? Why would they be against another streaming service app.
Until they decide to start making a new technology, CD-ROM and then.. oh wait, wrong timeframe.
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That's actually a good thing that it was that easy, MS going full third party for Nintendo to test out smaller games would actually be a good idea imo.Phil Spencer actually had a feature today in Kotaku where he outlined this "relationship" by describing themselves as one of many third party publishers for the Switch and that they don't speak CEO to CEO with Nintendo but through the same channels as every other third party. It just seems like a standard platform holder and publisher relationship.
Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Says Banjo In Smash Was An Easy Deal To Make
Nintendo’s penultimate E3 announcement today involved the addition of a Microsoft-owned character to Smash Bros. This kind of company crossover between two platform holders might seem extraordinary, but Xbox boss Phil Spencer said that it was actually a pretty easy deal.
Microsoft helping on back end with services but not much more for now later on maybe you'll see Gamepass on Nintendo ,PlayStation and everywhere else like you see with Office 365. Sataya's vision is that they are in it to make money and have the best customer service. Microsoft doesn't care what device you use as long as you use their products and subscriptions which in the long term will make them the most money I can see both Nintendo and Sony doing the same in the future fanboys won't like it but it's the reality of best for the business the bigger the audience the more the money the bigger the games.
Griptonite did Age of Mythologies on DS. :)
Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow was by tri-Crescendo.
Blue Dragon Plus was by feelplus+ and, believe it or not... Nintendo's own Brownie Brown (now 1UP Studio).
Zoo Tycoon DS 1 and 2 were by Altron.
Backbone Entertainment did Age of Empires: The Age of Kings and MechAssault: Phantom War.
And of course Rare themselves did Diddy Kong Racing DS and Viva Pinata Pocket Paradise.
And that concludes today's history lesson kids.
Anyway this is the main thread I guess that Queen Kong meant to link to, since she(?) linked to the same thread that got locked. :P
I think internet made it a bigger deal than what it actually is.
It's clear Microsoft is making their moves with Xbox Live on Switch for Minecraft, Cuphead and Super Lucky's Tale, we'll see more of these little moves here and there and not the big blow out maybe we were all expecting with Rare Replay, Xbox services, and according to rumor even a Halo/Gears/Forza.
It's clear Microsoft is making their moves with Xbox Live on Switch for Minecraft, Cuphead and Super Lucky's Tale, we'll see more of these little moves here and there and not the big blow out maybe we were all expecting with Rare Replay, Xbox services, and according to rumor even a Halo/Gears/Forza.
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Well the biggest thing here is MS is dead serious about playing games wherever you want and on whatever device you want, if there is a game that makes sense they will probably put it there. It's not really a collab per say it's more of MS embracing being a 3rd party for Nintendo more than they did in the GBA/DS days.
It's pretty clear that Microsoft now views their gaming ambitions as extending beyond the bounds of the Xbox console and PC. Minecraft is everywhere, pretty much all of their acquired studios are still releasing their games on other consoles, Gears characters are in terrible mobile games and now we have this. They seem to be testing the waters a bit, with things like Cuphead; it's like they're seeing how their Xbox console users react to their games no longer being exclusive, but Xbox console users seem pretty ambivalent.
This makes a lot of sense for Microsoft; they've never been the market leader in consoles. Ballmer was willing to light cash on fire to support The Microsoft Option in areas where they weren't the market leader, but Nadella is different. He's more of an earn-your-keep kinda guy, and he's open to new ways of thinking. Microsoft will keep making consoles, but that's clearly no longer the end-all be-all for Xbox.
I don't think we'll see Halo Infinite on the Switch anytime soon, but I can see a Rare Replay-style collection and even Master Chief Collection on Switch. Porting older and indie titles to Switch opens them up to a new audience and is unlikely to cause Xbox console sales to crater. Microsoft wants to keep their brands and characters in peoples' heads; a lot of Halo's reduction in relevance this generation can be traced back to being anchored to Xbox One. (Gears too, but I think that has other problems.)
I don't understand what any of this has to do with Microsoft "establishing dominance" over Nintendo, or whatever. If anything, it's a little humbling for Microsoft; changing your strategy because you're not getting the results you wanted always is. Microsoft has apps in the Apple App Store too, but that doesn't make them dominant over Apple. If anything, Apple's in the position of power.
Yes, Microsoft is a gazillion-dollar company, but they're a gazillion-dollar enterprise software and services company with a much smaller gaming division (smaller than Nintendo by most metrics). And Nadella does not seem like the kind to shovel cash into a pit to try to fill it, like Ballmer sometimes did.
I don't think we have to worry about Microsoft taking over the industry. If anything, they found theirselves on their ass a little bit, with Xbox One, and are regrouping.
This makes a lot of sense for Microsoft; they've never been the market leader in consoles. Ballmer was willing to light cash on fire to support The Microsoft Option in areas where they weren't the market leader, but Nadella is different. He's more of an earn-your-keep kinda guy, and he's open to new ways of thinking. Microsoft will keep making consoles, but that's clearly no longer the end-all be-all for Xbox.
I don't think we'll see Halo Infinite on the Switch anytime soon, but I can see a Rare Replay-style collection and even Master Chief Collection on Switch. Porting older and indie titles to Switch opens them up to a new audience and is unlikely to cause Xbox console sales to crater. Microsoft wants to keep their brands and characters in peoples' heads; a lot of Halo's reduction in relevance this generation can be traced back to being anchored to Xbox One. (Gears too, but I think that has other problems.)
I don't understand what any of this has to do with Microsoft "establishing dominance" over Nintendo, or whatever. If anything, it's a little humbling for Microsoft; changing your strategy because you're not getting the results you wanted always is. Microsoft has apps in the Apple App Store too, but that doesn't make them dominant over Apple. If anything, Apple's in the position of power.
Yes, Microsoft is a gazillion-dollar company, but they're a gazillion-dollar enterprise software and services company with a much smaller gaming division (smaller than Nintendo by most metrics). And Nadella does not seem like the kind to shovel cash into a pit to try to fill it, like Ballmer sometimes did.
I don't think we have to worry about Microsoft taking over the industry. If anything, they found theirselves on their ass a little bit, with Xbox One, and are regrouping.
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They ain't buying Nintendo, they did try at one point though.
Buying a JP dev and continuing their 3rd party support is just fine.