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So, what's the next game remake that would be of the most importance (as in, on par with FFVII Remake)
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For the specialist audience, Chrono Trigger. But it never had FFVII's reach in its own day, and I think it's clear that Square/Enix has exhibited a decades-long pattern of treating that game far less reverently than the players. It has aged well in its current form despite the mess of availability/quality over the disparate ports, however. From the JRPG library, Xenogears needs it more, but its reach would be even smaller and it didn't surprise me to hear a little while ago that the business case for it had apparently already been considered and rejected. (Unless I'm thinking of Xenosaga.)
Warcraft I and II arguably needed this far more than the coat of paint being applied to III. They could use a top-down reimagining—artwork, interfaces, mechanics, maps, everything—and without any thriving competitive scenes or mod communities to speak of, there is no reason whatsoever to remain beholden to the limitations of the original UI. Interoperability or mechanical faithfulness don't need to be accommodated, but there is a definite opening for the lore and characters to be made accessible again.
I don't see the argument for OoT at all, but then maybe a substantial reimagining will finally be the thing to convince me that OoT was anything more than a solid and significant starting point for far better games. I'd rather see Zelda-related resources directed elsewhere, particularly if we're getting that style of dungeon back.
Zelda II is overdue, though of course it wouldn't make nearly as big a splash even compared to Samus Returns or Link's Awakening, never mind one of the 3D games. It deserves a revisit more than anything else from one of the headline Nintendo series, though I'll happily take Genealogy of the Holy War too.
All comparatively niche, though. I don't think anything is positioned to make a bigger splash than FFVII. As far as that weird transitional early-3D era goes, even GoldenEye has already been tried. Maybe in a few years we'll see something like Rockstar revisiting GTA III and Vice City, because that's probably the one era of GTA that would best support this treatment in terms of potential, nostalgia value, and need; that's the biggest thing I can think of in terms of the audience it would excite.
Warcraft I and II arguably needed this far more than the coat of paint being applied to III. They could use a top-down reimagining—artwork, interfaces, mechanics, maps, everything—and without any thriving competitive scenes or mod communities to speak of, there is no reason whatsoever to remain beholden to the limitations of the original UI. Interoperability or mechanical faithfulness don't need to be accommodated, but there is a definite opening for the lore and characters to be made accessible again.
I don't see the argument for OoT at all, but then maybe a substantial reimagining will finally be the thing to convince me that OoT was anything more than a solid and significant starting point for far better games. I'd rather see Zelda-related resources directed elsewhere, particularly if we're getting that style of dungeon back.
Zelda II is overdue, though of course it wouldn't make nearly as big a splash even compared to Samus Returns or Link's Awakening, never mind one of the 3D games. It deserves a revisit more than anything else from one of the headline Nintendo series, though I'll happily take Genealogy of the Holy War too.
All comparatively niche, though. I don't think anything is positioned to make a bigger splash than FFVII. As far as that weird transitional early-3D era goes, even GoldenEye has already been tried. Maybe in a few years we'll see something like Rockstar revisiting GTA III and Vice City, because that's probably the one era of GTA that would best support this treatment in terms of potential, nostalgia value, and need; that's the biggest thing I can think of in terms of the audience it would excite.
Max Payne 1/2 remade by the people who made MP3 on the latest iteration of the Rockstar engine.
Edit: at first you might think - "eh, they're not THAT important" but really think of the impact they made on action games, specially after the first one.
Edit: at first you might think - "eh, they're not THAT important" but really think of the impact they made on action games, specially after the first one.
I can't think of a single game that would be as big of a deal as FFVII.
Maybe if Nintendo did remakes of Zelda 1, 2, Oracles of Seasons/Time.
I love that I can play Metroid 1 and 2 in more modern ways and it's probably the only way I'll play those old Zelda games.
Witcher 1 isnt a bad choice. I loved its story, but it was definitely a weird playing game. Put the game in the Witcher 3 engine and for most people it would be like getting a full new Witcher game since I doubt many of the series current fans even played that one.
The Mario Sunshine mention was good too. Definitely not on the level of FFVII, but it's the 3D Mario game most in need of being retooled.
Same for any other game that's already gotten a remake, even if a full HD remake would be awesome, like Mario 64, MGS1, or even games that have only gotten HD remaster.
Maybe if Nintendo did remakes of Zelda 1, 2, Oracles of Seasons/Time.
I love that I can play Metroid 1 and 2 in more modern ways and it's probably the only way I'll play those old Zelda games.
Witcher 1 isnt a bad choice. I loved its story, but it was definitely a weird playing game. Put the game in the Witcher 3 engine and for most people it would be like getting a full new Witcher game since I doubt many of the series current fans even played that one.
The Mario Sunshine mention was good too. Definitely not on the level of FFVII, but it's the 3D Mario game most in need of being retooled.
Not saying it couldn't use an actual HD remake, but the fact the 3DS remake already exists does reduce some of the "importance" of the remake in the way the OP is referring to FFVII.
Same for any other game that's already gotten a remake, even if a full HD remake would be awesome, like Mario 64, MGS1, or even games that have only gotten HD remaster.
I am speaking purely of visuals. When most people think of ff7 they think of this
Not this
The game on people's heads is different than what the game actually is and I say this as someone who loves the original ff7 and to me it's a timeless game
But it's on the 3DS. The system that was already outdated by several years when it launched. This rule that games which already got a remake don't need another one is bogus. The game is 9 years old and on the technical level of a 14 year old game because it released on an underpowered handheld.
The game deserves to be remade for at least somewhat competent hardware.
A poor remake doesn't mean a good one isn't wanted or needed.
MGS1 sold more than MGS3 , was more influential and is more iconic.
The pachislot cutscenes are irrelevant, and weren't great anyway
An Ocarina of Time remake in the vein of Breath of the Wild would definitely turn a lot of heads and be a pretty big deal to a lot of people.
It doesnt need it, it's a special case because Square Enix put the idea in peoples' heads almost 15 years ago. I played FFVII a few weeks ago for the first and it really doesn't necessarily need a remake, a remaster would work fine. I'm obviously not opposed to a from the ground up remake but it really doesn't NEED one.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare just happened. So that was probably the biggest western one.
I think the one that would draw the biggest crowd response would be a God of War remake for extra confusion.
Personally a remake of Burnout 3 Takedown would do me just fine.
I think the one that would draw the biggest crowd response would be a God of War remake for extra confusion.
Personally a remake of Burnout 3 Takedown would do me just fine.
Resident Evil 4.
Perhaps not right now, but soon. It's the game that truly laid the framework for the current style of AAA action spectacle shooter, and seeing it reworked from the ground up could be tremendously exciting.
Perhaps not right now, but soon. It's the game that truly laid the framework for the current style of AAA action spectacle shooter, and seeing it reworked from the ground up could be tremendously exciting.
This is the correct answer. Fewer games were formative into turning a franchise from a smaller fan base and turning it into a phenomenon globally.
There's literally nothing except maybe GTA: Vice City
I never said it doesn't deserve a remake, I'd love that game fully remade in modern hardware, I'm just saying that by already having a remake or remaster I don't care AS MUCH about getting another remake, especially less than 10 years since its remake came out.
Like I'm totally happy that Shadow of the Collosus got a remaster in PS4, but it came just a generation after a solid HD update on PS3, so it didn't really leave a big impact on me.
Metal Gear 1+2. The first one as a prologue of the second, like the Tanker in MGS2 or the Virtuous Mission in MGS3.
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Nevermind a remake, we're all still waiting for the next part!
I really hope that after selling XX amount of Indexes, Valve releases a version of Alyx that doesn't require VR. I think that people that love HL should've gotten some love by now.
The Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind.
I think a remake of that on par with FF7R would be the greatest remake of all time
I think a remake of that on par with FF7R would be the greatest remake of all time
I think the menu-based nature of FF7 makes it kind-of unique. It didn't really have a "game-feel" that needed to be recreated. A remake of an older action game like Halo or Half-Life can take fewer liberties because they have to keep that same feel the original had.
I might have said something like Doom but we already got that and it was great. Arcade games I think are too short and wouldn't support a full big-budget release. The next big menu-based or at least not-action-focused games I can think of that don't really have clear remakes already: Ultima Online, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy Tactics, Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario. But none of those have the cultural cachet of FF7.
It wouldn't be anywhere near as big but I think a game that deserves a lavish remake is x-wing vs tie-fighter, or maybe Freespace.
I might have said something like Doom but we already got that and it was great. Arcade games I think are too short and wouldn't support a full big-budget release. The next big menu-based or at least not-action-focused games I can think of that don't really have clear remakes already: Ultima Online, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy Tactics, Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario. But none of those have the cultural cachet of FF7.
It wouldn't be anywhere near as big but I think a game that deserves a lavish remake is x-wing vs tie-fighter, or maybe Freespace.
Why are people listing games that already have remakes (actual remakes, not Remasters).
Are they so young they think the remakes are the originals?
Are they so young they think the remakes are the originals?
To fulfill this criteria, imo, it has to be a game where the ambition vastly exceeded the capabilities of the medium, and is also one of the most popular games of all time.
Chrono Trigger would definitely fit that criteria, as would most of the other FF games from the SNES-PSX era. RPGs from that era in general were made with prerendered backgrounds and FMVs, so most of the art and gameplay ask the players to fill in the blanks with their imagination. In contrast, other games like Zelda: OoT or MGS were able to provide experiences that, for the most part, feel like they wouldn't need to be changed much for a remake. They already have the 3D environments so, you'd just make those environments prettier, tighten up the mechanics, and there you go... OoT 3DS, for instance.
Chrono Trigger would definitely fit that criteria, as would most of the other FF games from the SNES-PSX era. RPGs from that era in general were made with prerendered backgrounds and FMVs, so most of the art and gameplay ask the players to fill in the blanks with their imagination. In contrast, other games like Zelda: OoT or MGS were able to provide experiences that, for the most part, feel like they wouldn't need to be changed much for a remake. They already have the 3D environments so, you'd just make those environments prettier, tighten up the mechanics, and there you go... OoT 3DS, for instance.
Mgs3 also had a remake that came out about a year after it first released that changed the camera. It's gameplay is much more modern and thus is less in need of a remake compared to something like mgs1 which feels very dated by comparison. Mgs3 is probably my third favorite game of time but it doesn't need it as bad.
I think RE4, Chrono Trigger, and Ocarina are the only ones that come close to those levels of nostalgia for folks.
Remasters with QoL updates>>>remakes
Does FFVIIR look phenomenal? Yeah. But I'd much rather get a new game with those resources
Does FFVIIR look phenomenal? Yeah. But I'd much rather get a new game with those resources
How does a remake erase the original's legacy? A remake exists because of that legacy
Metal Gear (not MGS) as a more fleshed out game with behind the shoulder view and those sexy pachinko graphics. But not with current Konami.
So my pick would be:
KOTOR with BF2 visuals
Parasite Eve in Luminous
Super Mario Land 2 by Wario Land Shake It team
So my pick would be:
KOTOR with BF2 visuals
Parasite Eve in Luminous
Super Mario Land 2 by Wario Land Shake It team
Nothing will ever reach what FF7r is. This was many people's first game where they got attached to the characters. It is something beyond what a normal game is.
As a consolation prize my answer would have to be a game from the GTA3 trilogy.
As a consolation prize my answer would have to be a game from the GTA3 trilogy.
Do y'all not read? It's not YOUR favorite games that need remakes, it's games everyone liked and sold a shit ton. Popular games. Outside of the gamer sphere.
Even MGS3 isn't on the same level of FF7. The only one I can think of is Zelda OoT.
Even MGS3 isn't on the same level of FF7. The only one I can think of is Zelda OoT.
Honestly you're right. Or maybe Super Mario 64. No added gimmicks, just a pure remake with modern graphics and controls.