I think people are in for a rude awakening if they think Yoshi-P's team is actually working on FFXVI
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So what will come out first: Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 or Final Fantasy XVI?
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Yeah. I picture it as effectively XVI, XVII, and XVIII. I think we're 6 years off from the real XVI.
All of those were a decade ago, and Fabula Nova Crystallis was pretty much a disaster, especially when it comes to the global releases. Didn't help that the original XIV happened during all that, either.
Ever since, SE has been pretty reliably marketing only one big JRPG at a time. After E3 2015, FFXV made way for Nier Automata which made way for Dragon Quest XI which made way for Kingdom Hearts 3 which made way for Final Fantasy VII Remake. In between we got smaller things like ports and spin-offs (WoFF). There's occasionally some overlap (DQXI and KH3 were relatively close to each other) but it is a noticeable trend, and one that makes financial sense now these games are massive AAA endeavors. No sense in competing against themselves.
7R is going to be worked on for a long time though. It's not just gonna be two more parts without HUGE chunks of the original game being cut completely. Expect at least three more.
Yoshi P's next gen project
"Its General Manager Yoshida has a message that they have launched a large-scale HD title for the next generation. It has finished initial development and is entering full development."
Back in March 2019
I mean, if it's not XVI, then yeah XVI is a ways off. But I think it is.
No thats exagruastion. 2023 at most. Ff15 doesnt count as it had many problems + completely redeveloped from the ground.
While that's a good question, as it could easily be one or the other.
But, no I don't think they will finish 7 remake before XVI is out, that seems crazy even for Square.
But, no I don't think they will finish 7 remake before XVI is out, that seems crazy even for Square.
Well since Square take ages with mainline FF games, I'm gonna say Remake Part 2, since they can just reuse a lot from Part 1. Just depends if they have scrapped XVI and started over, hence why we never heard anything about it.
I honestly think we will get Persona 6 before FFXVI and that's saying something lol.
I honestly think we will get Persona 6 before FFXVI and that's saying something lol.
i don't see it as being anything other than a trilogy. i don't think it's as simple as part 2 being disc 2, but i don't think they're going to do the whole rest of the story in the next part and i can't see them having 4+ entries in their remake of one game
I still think they will do 7R in 3 parts personally but yeah it will be worked on for a number of years but I guess it will also depend on if XVI has even started development yet.
It's hard to say without knowing how many parts FFVIIR is gonna be. Part 2 probably won't go as far as we think. If it does go that far, then I am firmly placing my eggs in the FFXVI basket
Ff7 part 2 > FF16>KH spinoff>FF7 part 3>KH4
This is a long ways from now but that's how I see them going from 2022/23 onwards
This is a long ways from now but that's how I see them going from 2022/23 onwards
That's the problem, Disc 1 is like 75% of all locations and enemies, half the vehicles and all playable characters. It's hard to do 3 parts and balance it all, unless you're starting cutting it between continents or before getting a new vehicle.
7 part 2 for sure. The only reason part 1 took so long is that they had to make everything, engine included, from scratch. Now they have wverything out there from part 1 and the engine already for part 2, so it should see a much shorter development cycle. Final Fantasy games in the HD era that a shit ton of work, so I don't think we'll see xvi until at least 2024.
Correction: Part 1 is apparently run on UE4, however you still need to build the framework one which the game runs (battle systems, navigation systems, etc.)
Correction: Part 1 is apparently run on UE4, however you still need to build the framework one which the game runs (battle systems, navigation systems, etc.)
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I'm gonna go with Part 2. It's already on track, and they have everything in place to bang out the next part at a faster pace. Will still take a few years. But lately, it seems the next big FF usually comes out a few years into the gen. I think XVI will follow this timeline, and will be next gen exclusive, while FF VII will continue to be released on current + next gen platforms (at least for Part 2).
The engine isn't the problem. It's asset creation. They have an entire world they need to build now.
Part 2 is going to be at least 2 continents and 3 rather large towns and 3 or 4 smaller ones. That sounds bigger than a few modern day RPGs. I'm sure it will take time.
Part 3+ is where I can see it speeding it up presumably with the biggest town Wutai and maybe a few rural towns. Most of the last act is backtracking.
Small correction Part 1 runs on UE4. They didn't need to make an engine for it.
The main issue with Part 2 will be asset creation, cutscenes and bossfights - FF on PS1 had an insane amount of one-off content they probably want to keep.
This looks like a good time line. (Not sure about the spin off though)
I just don't like the idea of it releasing over three console generations. If this thing starts on PS4 and ends on PS6, that would be a failure in my eyes.
And because of pacing, I'm guessing the earliest part 2 can end is when you're about to get the boat and that's the 2 biggest continents.
They all but said that his division is making it. The Heavensward leads have been working on it for years.
you all know square has multiple business divisions that release multiple big games a year right? yoshida's BD just released FFXIV shadowbringers and dragon quest builders 2 last year (both massive games) and had been in preproduction on a big single player title for years before those two games (dating all the way back to sometime during Heavensward since some high positions on that disappeared from the credits at Stormblood's launch) and that title's now in full production and everyone thinks it's Final Fantasy XVI. What one business division is doing doesn't really affect what projects are being made at the other business divisions.
So, in theory, does S-E have four major projects in development or about to be in development?
-FFVIIR project
-Luminous Team project
-Yoshida Team project (FFXVI? New IP?)
-Osaka Project (KH4?)
I haven't been following too closely, so I'm probably wrong here.
-FFVIIR project
-Luminous Team project
-Yoshida Team project (FFXVI? New IP?)
-Osaka Project (KH4?)
I haven't been following too closely, so I'm probably wrong here.
Absolutely no way the VIIR parts are less than a year apart; not unless each part is like one town worth with about 5 enemy variety.
We'll be lucky if we get them in 3, the next game will have to find an overworld solution, build tons of unique towns and monsters, and create a combat system for Cid, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, and maybe even Red XIII. Rockstar couldn't do that in 1 year.
Oh, thank you for the correction. I amended my post. It (part 1) still had the task of creating the framework of the game (battle systems, navigation systems, character switching and all of that mess). Part 2 will undoubtedly take less time than 1, and part 3 even quicker. That's basically what I was getting at. It will come much quicker than an all new Final fantasy title where not only do you need to start all of those processes over but create characters and worlds for them to live in on top of all of that.
It will definitly be faster developed than a normal mainline FF.
Though I would be very surprised if XVI isn't deep in production already leading to it coming out sooner than Part 2 despite taking longer to develop.
But all we do here is guessing anyway, we will probably know after E3.
Something tells me Final Fantasy XVI is still a very long way out. Meanwhile FFVII:R part 2 won't take nearly as long to make as part 1 did, especially now that they've got a ton of framework, models, assets, etc. already in place for it.
Before either happens, however, they'll port FFVII:R part 1 to PS5 and PC. (Probably in that order too.)
Before either happens, however, they'll port FFVII:R part 1 to PS5 and PC. (Probably in that order too.)
The problem with XVI is that it's a complete unknown, we have a pretty good idea of when VIIR2 will come out because it's a sequel, 3-4 years depending on how smoothly development goes. XVI is basically a new IP and new IPs are incredibly difficult to make, as evidenced by the last several mainline games and all the development problems they've had with them.
It could come out next year or it could come out 6 years from now, we don't have any idea.
It could come out next year or it could come out 6 years from now, we don't have any idea.