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So what does Warner Bros do with the Flash movie?
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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Delay it for as long as they can, release it globally in markets where Miller's heinous record isn't as publicized, domestically release it in as few theaters and with as little marketing as contractual obligated, bury it on HBO Max and ensure future projects have adequate setup so this film isn't necessary in the slightest.
Before today it was just about Ezra's antics in Hawaii and a questionable relationship with an 18 year old. Today the story about a new 12 year old has come out and more places are picking it up.
Which is why they'll recast and move on. Maybe pull the movie's toyline and anything with Miller's face on it. A year is a long time and unless this stays in the news cycle that long, I don't see WB just pulling the plug on the movie or reshooting it entirely (effectively the same as option 1).
At this point I think Warner Bros just has to just scrap the movie completely.
There's no way around it, the allegations against Ezra are going to overshadow the entire thing. Press tours will be impossible with all the talk of Ezra's wrongdoings, promotional tie-in and merchandising opportunities are out of the question now. You think LEGO company or McDonald's are gonna do Flash stuff when the lead star is accused of child grooming? Not a chance any company will want to associate their brands with this film. There's no way to effectively market it IMO.
Even if they do try and ride things out, do they really wanna put this movie out that apparently sets up the future of the DC Universe when they're just going to recast immediately after? It not only taints this movie but a bunch of their upcoming film slate too.
There's no way around it, the allegations against Ezra are going to overshadow the entire thing. Press tours will be impossible with all the talk of Ezra's wrongdoings, promotional tie-in and merchandising opportunities are out of the question now. You think LEGO company or McDonald's are gonna do Flash stuff when the lead star is accused of child grooming? Not a chance any company will want to associate their brands with this film. There's no way to effectively market it IMO.
Even if they do try and ride things out, do they really wanna put this movie out that apparently sets up the future of the DC Universe when they're just going to recast immediately after? It not only taints this movie but a bunch of their upcoming film slate too.
Can they fit Alan Ritchson in the suit?
This right here is the most realistic and level headed post
Hell, Elgort was able to do press recently for Tokyo Vice and had his face all over the ads
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Scratch that. Just read a Twitter thread about Egort and I had no idea that it was that bad:
Many people asked Rachel Zegler about Ansel Elgort. No one asked if she was OK
'West Side Story' star Rachel Zegler said she had 'some of the worst mental health days' of her life after Ansel Elgort was accused of sexual assault.
www.latimes.com
Fuck them both, but I still maintain that the situation here isn't comparable to Ezra. We are talking cultish sexual predator shit, while Egort is a sexual predator that as far as we know don't run around with guns and having reports like Daily Beast article released today.
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Sexually assaulting a 17 year old goes a bit past being a creep.
I stand corrected, I just read this shit and wasn't aware that it was that bad:
Yeah this is incredibly fucked up too.
They should just CG a mask over his face in all scenes and they record a new scene at the end where he finally takes it off and it's a new actor.
The movie is not exclusively a work by Ezra, hundreds of people worked on that movie and they deserve their work to be seen. At least release it on HBO, preferably without Ezra making anything more from it. After that, never work with them again but help them find the help they need and help justice be served as deserved.
Even that would be complicated. How do they handle the marketing? They also can't possibly do a press tour. Even with Ezra Miller, they can't possibly put Keaton or anyone else in the movie into interviews. The only thing that's going to be asked is about Ezra.
What you are saying is the definition of making things complicated.
Marketing press junkets (Whatever they're called.) are controlled experiences. They can tell them not to ask about Ezra. Or not have them at all.
Get the movie out as soon as possible and move on. This Ezra situation is not going away anytime soon.
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If it's done filming WB will release it. No way they just eat the entire budget of a blockbuster movie. My guess is they drop the movie then recast Flash going forward. As for how they handle PR and marketing...that'll be interesting to see.
Some people here seem fine throwing away at least 300 mil. I'll send you all my PayPal.
It will be released. Marketed as they intended to market it and just have everyone else promote the movie.
It will be released. Marketed as they intended to market it and just have everyone else promote the movie.
I haven't seen anything about ezra in msm/local news etc, only here. So it's not like this is a kevin spacey-level news story and they reshoot due to all the pressure. They'll release it, prob replace ezra, and go about thier business
Call it DC's Flashpoint. MinimizeThe Flash. Add more scenes with supergirl, some Batgirl because they work cheap. They can save this.
Honestly, shifting marketing wouldn't be too hard because of Keaton & Affleck alone. They can just focus the trailers on the 2 Batman's & even Supergirl. Hell, the can adjust the title if they wanted & call it Flash: Batman Returns if they wanted. And in terms of the interviews; studios can just tell them not to ask about Miller. Studios run those press junkets. Magazines/websites/podcasts aren't going to sour relationships with WB just to try to make an actor feel uncomfortable & talk about the situation. They'll do their soft ball questions about playing a hero & their chicken wing challenges & go about their business all the same. Entertainment Weekly or Vanity Fair will slap Keaton & Affleck & Sasha Calle on their cover and it'll sell just fine.
They will wait for ages to see if news about Ezra calms down or gets worse. They have Black Adam, Shazam and Aquaman done / coming up so they will probably just sit on it and release it after those, maybe at the end of 2023.
edit - they absolutely won't reshoot it with a different actor, that is madness. Maybe retool it a bit with more of the other characters at most.
edit - they absolutely won't reshoot it with a different actor, that is madness. Maybe retool it a bit with more of the other characters at most.
They'll release it. Burning hundreds of millions isn't going to happen. Market it extremely conservatively. Edit and add a few scenes without Ezra. Recast them publicly after. That's all.
Nothing.
As horrible as it sounds, unless the news about Ezra becomes national news, not much will change. Even then, most people won't tune into whats going on.
Most people going to see this are going to see it for Keaton, and nothing else.
I get that it's an awful situation, and I get that it impacts so many people on this board, but it's a very small minority.
As horrible as it sounds, unless the news about Ezra becomes national news, not much will change. Even then, most people won't tune into whats going on.
Most people going to see this are going to see it for Keaton, and nothing else.
I get that it's an awful situation, and I get that it impacts so many people on this board, but it's a very small minority.
I've only dabbled with DeepFaceLabs a bit but I think some people are underestimating deepfakes and the power of pretrained models. You can produce some seriously good results in a short, reasonable amount of time. I have no doubt a small team of deepfakers and a fleet of high end pc's can handle the task of deepfaking 1-2 hours of Ezra's face in time for a late 2023 release.
They will probably release it. Most people, especially people outside the US, presumably won't care that much. Most people likely won't even know. At least not specifics. They'll probably hear random details out of context and conclude "the lead actor went crazy" or something like that, and shrug and watch the movie.
I'd like them to just hands up and say they'll be recasting Ezra before any other news of this film drops.
I don't get the desperation of cancelling this movie. Its a fucked situation but we are grown and understand the situation. You have Michael fucking Keaton returning. Focusing the marketing on Batman is the easy way out. Just jam his name in the title already. Make your money back and move on. Ya'll act like releasing the movie is going to give Ezra a pass or downplay their behavior.
At a very least, WB needs to make this clear from the start.
Would some of you have been arguing for Clownhouse to get released?
You've got to can it. There is no way this film can ever be viewed in the way it was intended to be.
It sucks for fans of the characters but it sucks more for the people directly hurt and possibly mentally scarred for the rest of their lives by Ezra. Put aside your love of Michael Keaton as Batman for a minute.
You can't promote the film starring a presumed child predator as the lovable wise cracking hero.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some insurance they can cash out.
You've got to can it. There is no way this film can ever be viewed in the way it was intended to be.
It sucks for fans of the characters but it sucks more for the people directly hurt and possibly mentally scarred for the rest of their lives by Ezra. Put aside your love of Michael Keaton as Batman for a minute.
You can't promote the film starring a presumed child predator as the lovable wise cracking hero.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some insurance they can cash out.
That's how I feel. Put a mask on them anytime they're dressed as Flash. Deepfake the other shit as much as you can and then eat the cost to reshoot the rest of the scenes with a new actor. Eat the shit out of that cost even if it's another 100 million.
Because if WB puts the movie out as it is I think it will hurt the Flash movie brand since Ezra isn't one of the assholes who the public actually likes enough to ignore their antics. Canning the movie is flushing money down the drain too and it will hurt them making future Supergirl and Old Man Batman shit.
I feel real bad for the cast and evryone who worked on this. Imagine, 2 years of your work could be canned because of one shitty person.