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on topic: I figured they were gonna do the orginal mcu 6 or 5 in this case
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So they seriously ran the Avengers trailer with zero PoC?
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on topic: I figured they were gonna do the orginal mcu 6 or 5 in this case
People didn't think of anyone as a "member of the avengers" before the first movie. And the cast changed in EVERY movie. That wasn't a problem for the movies at all, adding "niche" characters just promoted them.
Why now suddenly the Avengers have a set roster? That goes against all the interpretations of the group. They can easily have Kamala there in the trailer with them and people wouldn't hate the game just because of it, it's just a new cool hero for them to like.
Yep, that is definitely true but I'd wager most of the core audience this game is targeting wouldn't think otherwise about naming Cap, Thor, Banner, Iron Man and Widow as the true "OG" Avengers.
I understand that's not true given the history of the comics but can't help but feel this decision comes down to some bland perception of "most iconic Avengers"
Hoping for something positive to come from further marketing of this title as Black Panther is one of my favourite Marvel movies.
"STOP BEING MAD ABOUT THINGS I HAVE THE LUXURY OF NOT BEING AFFECTED BY GUYS!!!!!!!"
This is extremely false, even amongst non-Marvel fanatics...
hah nice catch, I didn't think about that. I think he will be the white version, but they seem to want to be MCU without actually being the MCU character design wise.
What if this is a situation like Dragon Age 2 where black skin shaders wasn't so good for the engine (tee-hee)
People are ignoring that this game was in development before Black Panther and Captain Marvel was on the map in terms of popularity. Those 4 you mentioned have to be in the game, Black Widow being the outlier. So it's 4 roster spots automatically filled out of 5.
I'm sure we'll see the other characters as DLC, but they need to come day 1 and have an impact on the story. Hopefully in advertisements as well
It really isn't. Outside of comics the Avengers weren't even a vaguely household name prior to the first Iron Man film.
Come on man they don't even have an avatar. How did you fall for that bait?
We likely will, but it's also getting tiresome having to wait every single time for representation. If not T'Challa out of the gate, I would've been happy with Miles, War Machine, or Falcon, but those are the characters we conveniently have to wait for yet again.
Especially considering this is the West Coast Avengers team, it makes no sense why Hawkeye isnt there. Cap, Black Widow, Thor, and Hulk were never on the team.
And Hawkeye was the founder, who isn't even there.
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I'm talking aboutt the general mass audience. I doubt before that movie people would be able to say "Yeah, obviously, the Avengers are Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc". I mean, the movie added Black Widow and Hawkeye to the first team and removed Ant-man and Wasp, that are more important Avengers characters, and people didn't mind it.
I'm sure they could add Kamala here and people wouldn't get mad. It would just promote her to a bigger audience.
We're rumored to be getting Ms. Marvel in the MCU in the near future, but a Champions movie would be different than the comics. Peter is still a teenager & they're probably gonna go for Richard Rider as Nova given their original plans for Infinity War. If anything, I could see the MCU Champions being Kamala/Peter/Shuri/Cassie/Kate (maybe Viv if we get her in the WandaVision show).
I don't think they're actually the West Coast Avengers. From what the devs said they're just visiting.
I probably won't play this game because of this. It made me soooooo fucking uncomfortable. I kept cringing and when they revealed "Hank", I turned it off. I'm truly ashamed of being a white man sometimes.
They've never been good at representation, tbh. Look at ff games or KH games. Mostly tokenism.
If Marvel gave them the go-ahead, I don't see an issue with it.
But I can understand the need to keep a few characters for future seasons/DLC/chapters/what you want to call them. Just gotta be patient.
If the rumors are true about the game, Kamala would be the one narrating the trailer.
At least I hope it's her, I really want to see more of her in Media that isn't the lame current cartoon. Especially after they mentioned the Terragen.
At least I hope it's her, I really want to see more of her in Media that isn't the lame current cartoon. Especially after they mentioned the Terragen.
I swear I'm not being troll-y, but from now until the end of time will any game that doesn't have the right mixture of underrepresented people be a piece of trash automatically?
Using the release of the Iron Man film as a starting point makes no sense as there was no mention of the Avengers in film around that time...despite that, we grew up on Avengers games, cartoons, and toys since, what, the 80s?...
Of course it hadn't reached the popularity it has since the movies but it was damn sure recognizable by fans of the comics and people who don't read the comics alike...
The deal is Spider-Man can be in team up games but the ones making team ups cannot make a solo Spider-Man game. That lies with Sony and Insomoniac.
Other Avengers have not been ruled out for Insomniac's Spider-Man games.
At the very least, all signs point to Kamala being playable and playing a major role in the story. Though like I said, she should've been in the trailer.
Which means they were free to include whoever they wanted and chose the lineup they chose.
"Melanin has to wait."
Just hoping for eventually having Kamala/Miles but I won't hold my breath.
Still hoping they take a Warframe approach and show off each hero's kits and drip feed them into the game for people.
Still hoping they take a Warframe approach and show off each hero's kits and drip feed them into the game for people.
It means you're the type of account that appears in subjects of sensitivity. Like the majority of your whole post history out of currently 7 are in subjects like this.
You're right, but I see no reason why the MCU couldn't take the same liberties it takes with everything else...
Far From Home seems to be rumored to span the multiverse, and Miles Morales is from the Ultimate universe. It would be wise for them to capitalize on his popularity as soon after Into the Spider-Verse as possible...
Unless they can't, for legal reasons...
That sounds about right.
Talk to https://twitter.com/SquareEnix?lang=en if you'd rather have all the characters right away.
I agree. There's not much of a defense. They aren't even strictly adhering to the comics OR the movies. Have some common sense!
Yes, there was. The Avengers initiative post credits is what started everyone digging up info about who the fuck the Avengers were in anticipation of the films.
No. We certainly had a few Avengers games, but we also had a few Biker Mice from Mars games. Few Marvel properties were labeled as 'Avengers' properties and most of the popular, long running things that came from Marvel IP were based on their more popular characters, Spider-Man and the X-Men
There are actual legitimate rumors pointing towards Kamala being playable. Miles on the other hand is up in the air.
"Why are you complaining? They'll get around to you negroes eventually."
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I have to agree with Elcornballero here.
I am Asian and this doesn't bother me at all. When was the last time you saw an Asian hero in any Marvel/DC movie? Doesn't affect me at all. I am so used to it.
The 90's Avengers United We Stand cartoon had Hank Pym as the main character and Falcon was part of the main roster. So yeah, the Avengers roster changes all the time and doesn't care about only having "A tier" characters.
Alright, now you're just trolling.
Have a good night dude, I've had enough of this.
I'll bite - why do you think asking for more representation is not a genuine concern?
Literally what you keep saying, just with all the niceties stripped out.
His uncle Aaron is in Homecoming who mentioned his nephew so they should be good to go.
