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Tophat Jones

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Oct 26, 2017
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a few seconds?! pretty sure this is peer-to-peer just like shareplay so it shouldnt be that laggy. think about it, twitch can do 1 second lag and thats going from the broadcaster, to a amazon server, back to the viewer who could be states away. a peer-to-peer connection between two friends in the same city should not take a few seconds
For perspective sake, shareplay's stream latency was near instant. I expect latency akin to that or Discord's screen share feature. Maybe like 500 ms latency.
Fair points, I may have overexaggerated.

I have been playing Gears 4 online with my friend recently, and that experience is what I was thinking of when making that post. Since he is the host everything is just slightly off. The dialogue in cutscenes never matches the faces. And if we are both carrying a crate or something, my character is basically sprinting because he is ahead and my game is always trying to catch up.


Different systems etc. But that seems much easier to get right than literally watching someone play in the same multiplayer match you are in and having it match up accurately enough to be useful. But hey, next-gen, blow me away!
 

Fisty

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Oct 25, 2017
20,214
Im hoping to God we can pull up YouTube on it. Would make copying speedrun videos in stuff like RE0 a breeze
 

KeRaSh

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Oct 26, 2017
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PiP with a friends gameplay stream would have been a life saver back when I had to guide a friend to the first boss of Bloodborne to enable us to play coop.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I'm thinking it will be really usefull in a lot of battle royals and tactical shooters. You'll block a part of your own screen, but seeing your friend's POW might be worth it in a lot of scenarios.

And it's just cool if you need to help someone through a section or whatever, since you can now play your own game while doing it.

I'm sure developers will block this feature in MP games.
 

ty_hot

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Dec 14, 2017
7,176
Honestly? The biggest use for me will be to play whatever game I want and have my friend playing PES and showing me replays - or me laughing at him losing another match.
 

hydruxo

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Oct 25, 2017
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All depends on how well it actually works. If it's a mess like share play then I probably will use it once then never touch it again.
 

shoemasta

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Oct 28, 2017
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Sounds interesting. If its not laggy then it would be great. Its kinda how I watch my friend's discord streams while we play games
 
Oct 24, 2019
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If it works with web browser, you could always get some porn going while you play

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Mugen X

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Oct 27, 2017
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As long as theres no lag or poor resolution it'll be great, only time will tell. We all know some of these features will not work as advertised.
 

fadeawayjae

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May 31, 2019
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I wonder how this will affect a game like RB6 where dead teammates can be on spectator cams . A player can be watching the cam in the corner while also not getting off of aiming down sights.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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It would be super useful when guiding a newbie through a Souls game, instead of trying to describe a location to figure out where they are.
 

DieH@rd

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Oct 26, 2017
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Depends on the lag, I expect it to be too hard to use it like that
SharePlay on PS4 has minimal lag when streaming gameplay.

It has to be snappy because at any point the host can "toss the gamepad" to the viewer, so that he can start controlling the game [essentially Remote Play, only with two different consoles with two different active PSN accounts].
 

Navid

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Oct 26, 2017
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First thing that came to my mind when seeing it was basically using it as a form of co-op in single player games... you and a friend getting into party chat and playing through a game while seeing the others gameplay in a picture in picture window.

For example I'm someone who has played through Sekiro and my friend is interested in the game but a bit worried about the difficulty, I can play through the opening sections guiding them via my gameplay and pointing out items and enemies as I go.
 

egg

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Oct 26, 2017
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Imagine being stuck in an area and a homie loads their game up and shows you how to get out.
 

Chippewa Barr

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Aug 8, 2020
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I didn't catch anything, but do they mention using things like Netflix/D+/Youtube in PiP mode?

I remember using the awful Snap implementation on Xbox but wasn't there also something about PiP and licensing copyright media or something?

Either way I hope this is on both consoles. Any app that has the ability to full screen video should be allowed to be PiP'ed. It's PERFECT for grindy games since you have shows or sports on in the background.
 

Landford

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looking at your buddy side of the screen in multiplayer, perfected.
 

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
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I'm thinking it will be really usefull in a lot of battle royals and tactical shooters. You'll block a part of your own screen, but seeing your friend's POW might be worth it in a lot of scenarios.

And it's just cool if you need to help someone through a section or whatever, since you can now play your own game while doing it.
I'm pretty sure that every BR game (except maybe Fortnite) will put in measures to not allow that. Especially for ones that are crossplay.
 

Tiber

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Nov 1, 2017
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It's amazing. I can already see how useful it will be in Destiny.

I would also love to be able to watch YouTube instead of having it running on my phone all the time
 

convo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just wanna watch youtube while I play a game.
For someone who uses my PC monitor for my console and switches when i feel like it, it would be pretty fantastic.
Did they say if they could screen share multiple friends? I can imagine speed run races with your buddies with a set up like that.
 

Callibretto

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm thinking it will be really usefull in a lot of battle royals and tactical shooters. You'll block a part of your own screen, but seeing your friend's POW might be worth it in a lot of scenarios.

And it's just cool if you need to help someone through a section or whatever, since you can now play your own game while doing it.
You're not blocking any part of your screen if you use the "side by side" mode instead of pip. The main screen you're playing reduce it's size a bit
 
Oct 28, 2017
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You're not blocking any part of your screen if you use the "side by side" mode instead of pip. The main screen you're playing reduce it's size a bit

Yeah I forgot there are two diffent modes you can use.

It will be interesting to see how much developers allow here, because it can obviously be a pretty big advantage in multiplayer.
 

Kliemie

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Oct 26, 2017
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Its a really cool feature that i never thought would be cool to have.

hope xbox includes it as well
 

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Jun 2, 2020
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When MS had this similar feature for Xbox One way back in 2013, it was let down by the hardware. The feature was pretty good though. I am surprised MS never tried their hand at it again.
 

Modest_Modsoul

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Oct 29, 2017
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Indirect & maybe unintentional split-screen gaming too?

How bout you & friend playing the same game with co-op albeit that game don't have split-screen, but using PS5's PiP?

Might not the most convenient compared to real split-screen, but hey. 🤔🤷
 

Massicot

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Oct 25, 2017
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My brother and I often shoot the shit while playing and sharing different single-player games over discord screen share. Really cool to see a similar console implementation.
 

GavinGT

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Sep 28, 2020
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I just use a second monitor for this kind of thing. My headphones let me blend the audio sources from my PC and console too, so I can easily watch YouTube or Twitch while gaming.

I used Snap Mode when it was available, but having something blocking/shrinking your screen really compromises both pieces of content you're trying to consume.