I kinda like the cross-buy system the way they've got it. Trophy hunters are going to be doubling down on those Platinum Trophies!
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So... the PS5 has "smart delivery" after all.
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I forgot that, but it's the exact same for The Pathless as well which would almost definitely support Smart Delivery were it on Xbox. I apologise for not having a very specific title to give an evidenced comparison of, but if someone else has one then it would great if they could post it themselves.
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That's one of my favorite things tbh, I'm not getting any of the new consoles at launch so I'll be getting those plats on PS4 and it will still be worth it to replay it on PS5 due to getting the trophies again.
If I basically can get double the trophies by playing the same game on the same console, just take my money already, Sony.
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I don't understand why having the option of downloading both versions would be considered a negative though.
You say that as if it's a really minor technicality or something, but it's a pretty significant differentiator. The big benefit to 'Smart Delivery' is that it's not only just buying 1 SKU (with a single set of achievements), it's that your can start on one generation and pick-up on the next when you upgrade seamlessly. This is not that.
yeah, sony absolutely does not have smart delivery
it's considerably worse than microsofts solution
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Yeah, but this approach presents the advantage of being able to earn the trophies again if you're replaying the game on PS5 after finishing it on PS4.
"Double Platinum Opportunities" on Ubisoft open world games.
That'd be the end of me ... Good reason to complete Watch_dogs before i get my PS5 on the 19th. And not to launch Valhalla on the PS4 ever.
Just like how Apple called their high resolution / high pixel density screens "Retina Display", Microsoft has dubbed their cross-buy initiative as "Smart Delivery".
There's absolutely nothing else to them except being new marketing slogans / trademarks of already existing products and services.
There's absolutely nothing else to them except being new marketing slogans / trademarks of already existing products and services.
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Still... if you're not an early adopter and ends up getting the plat on PS4 that would mean replaying it on PS5 would still be worth your while (if you care about trophies that is)
Meh, platinuming a game is like squeezing every last drop out of the experience.
That's nothing you wanna do twice. Usually, after platinuming a game, you really don't ever wanna touch it again 😓
Why would spending $69.99 to earn trophies for a game that you've already played be an actual argument you're making to support your thesis? The whole point of Smart Delivery is a single SKU/single save that crosses two generations and tailors your experience to the console you're on. Single achievement list, etc.
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- That's on a game by game basis
- That's a positive IMO
- That's another positive, as you're able to play both
- Pushing a button to download a desired version is really not that big of a deal and you're getting the possibility of playing the PS4 version while you're at it.
wat
Navigating through pick and mix of what is and isnt supported game by game, increases your research skills, its a plus!
Whitehouse Kayleigh McEnany level spin there.
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People here already kinda explained it.
A title featuring 'smart delivery' means it supports a 'set' of cross compatible features. Not just owning both versions of the game.
PS4-PS5 crossbuy. You buy a PS4 version and get a copy of the PS5 version for free.
Smart delivery Same as above but also has
- cross save
- cross achievements
- cross user settings I believe as well
etc.
It's a significant difference
console warriors need to learn to appreciate good feature sets, even when they don't have access to them
these are absolutely not positives
these are absolutely not positives
For Smart Delivery games, there isn't an Xbox One version of the game or a Series X|S version of the game. It's an Xbox game that you can play in both places with shared progression. It's like a PC game with cloud synced saves.
PlayStation is using different versions of the game and they are figuring out a way to transfer save data.
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What? I'm talking about cross-buy games. You won't have to spend 69,99 on anything... you'll buy your 59,99 game and be able to play on both
how do discs work? I just bought Assassin's Creed Valhalla PS5 physical. What happens when I put in the disc, is it just an install of the PS5 version, does it install the PS4 version then I can upgrade?
Whether you see them is as positives or negatives is irrelevant. "Smart delivery" is the backend and SDK features that allow devs to easily implement all of these features and for consumers to use them invisibly. PS5 does not have them.
You made this thread to say that the PS5 has Smart Delivery when it doesn't, not to debate on the downsides and merits between the two. I simply pointed out that you're wrong. Sony's 'Smart Delivery' solution is literally the same thing as the PS3/Vita cross-buy games from the early 2010s.
This is literally false.
Smart Delivery = 1 SKU, with a single save file and achievement list, that automatically changes according to the platform it's played on/downloaded to
PS4/PS5 Cross-Buy = 2 separate SKUs with multiple save files and trophy lists
Odd...why would i want to play the worse version of a back compat game on the better hardware.
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It just installs the PS5 version, it would have to download the PS5 version if you bought the PS4 version. On xbox it seems that there's only Xbox One data on the disc (due to the discs having to be 50GB max to be read on the old consoles) and you'll have to download the XSX version in any case.
Yep. Warriors gonna warrior. Practically everyone in this topic has proved OP wrong and the rebuttals are "yeah but imo that a positive."
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if you buy a physical PS4 game like creed does it install the ps4 version and then you go to the online store to "buy" the ps5 version? or is there an upgrade choice in the game?
I'm wondering because having trophy data for Ps4 versions would be the dirt worst lol
How is the complete seperation of trophy lists without synching a positive? I wanna continue playing Siege on my PS5 and finish off that platinum eventually: the way it works now I'll either have to start off fresh, or continue playing it on my PS4? That's bullshit.
This was known and it doesn't really classify as "smart delivery" which is primarily just a marketing term to indicate one SKU that is forwards and backwards compatible.
Its a bit of a clunky mess trying to navigate through different versions of games right now. With multiple Skus for each game and no clear designation about what games include a next gen version. It really feels like an afterthought.
Its a bit of a clunky mess trying to navigate through different versions of games right now. With multiple Skus for each game and no clear designation about what games include a next gen version. It really feels like an afterthought.
When submitting a build you can identify files within that package as exclusive to specific hardware profiles (ie: 4K for XSX only, or NG enhancements for XSX/XSS only). On PS5 you can't do that, you have to submit seperate SKUs, though the DLC with actual game content route might work I'm not sure. Regardless there's a limitation on PS5 that's not present on XSX/XSS where it can more easily use the same package across multiple hardware profiles (namely XB1 to XSX/XSS)
An easier way to explain it is with Physical game editions for games that support Next-Gen specific enhancements where XB1 and XSX/XSS can be the same disc (File Size limiations not withstanding) while PS4 and PS5 cannot if they include the PS5 specific enhancements since that has to be a seperate SKU
An easier way to explain it is with Physical game editions for games that support Next-Gen specific enhancements where XB1 and XSX/XSS can be the same disc (File Size limiations not withstanding) while PS4 and PS5 cannot if they include the PS5 specific enhancements since that has to be a seperate SKU
I can basically get 2x the trophies for the price of one. That's a positive to me personally.
That's a recent thing. When the store initially started PS4 and PS5 versions of games were listed separately; this new 'Smart Delivery' feature is literally just Sony tidying up their online store to get rid of redundant listings.
Because of the miniscule amount of people who would actually platinum a game a second time on an inferior platform.
It's also a straight-up downgrade compared to PS3/Vita to PS4's "smart delivery"
This isn't exactly true. There are separate versions. Just no way to get one w/o the other and the OS will try to minimize that distinction.
Why would someone want to play the PS4 version of a game if they have a PS5 version that looks and runs significantly better?
Yeah there's no way you're plat'ing GAAS type games twice. It's only a positive if it auto-pops like it did the previous gen.
I meant to the op. How is playing the worse ps4 version on a ps5 a positive. I really don't think getting two platinums is it.