The Outer Worlds came out a few weeks ago and people for the most part loved it. But now they announce a small game made by like 12 people and now you have no faith in them.
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So the next “Skyrim” could belong exclusively to Microsoft, courtesy of Obsidian.
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They're 2 different kinds of RPGS, I see MS licking thier lips at the thought of being the home of top tier western RPGs tbh.
Whatever you're expecting to see from Obsidian is probably not overly restrained by team size or budget. They made two recently very good Bethesda style RPGs with NV and TOW and that's what they can roughly deliver.
Remember that Skyrim was made by around 100 people and Fallout 3 by 70. It's a complicated team effort which budget and time doesn't always fix. The folks at Bethesda can make a gigantic game with very little resources thanks to their tools and workflow - that's not something you can easily copy.
They can do what they want now with MS and not everyone wants to or can make "the next Skyrim".
Remember that Skyrim was made by around 100 people and Fallout 3 by 70. It's a complicated team effort which budget and time doesn't always fix. The folks at Bethesda can make a gigantic game with very little resources thanks to their tools and workflow - that's not something you can easily copy.
They can do what they want now with MS and not everyone wants to or can make "the next Skyrim".
personally loved oblivion more than skyrim, nonetheless, Fallout New Vegas is one of my favorite games of all time. Still gotta play the outer worlds.
Obsidian: Don't worry, only 13 people have been working on this. It's a very small passion project. There's still over 150 people here to work on the games we're more traditionally known for.
Gamers: This is all Obsidian makes now. They're too busy with this to make other games.
i don't think any studio would know where to begin making something dynamic as elder scrolls/nu-fallout... and it has nothing to do with the quality of the games
if you think witcher, outer worlds, ect schooled skyrim fine. but they're completely different games at an operative level
if you think witcher, outer worlds, ect schooled skyrim fine. but they're completely different games at an operative level
I think that was an issue of budget and not talent right?
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I agree. I just feel it's doable if given enough time and a big budget.
Or on the flip side maybe something with a similar feel, but a smaller scope. I mean, I'm just thrilled to think that we could possibly get an alternative to Bethesda's work.
I think they should make Shadowrun instead
Bioware is working on dragon age and bethesda tes 6 and pgg is making fable 4
We dont need another fantasy game like that imo
I know cdpr is making cyberpunk but the hype around that game should show how well shadowrun would do for obsidian.
Bioware is working on dragon age and bethesda tes 6 and pgg is making fable 4
We dont need another fantasy game like that imo
I know cdpr is making cyberpunk but the hype around that game should show how well shadowrun would do for obsidian.
Could Obsidian make a better Elder Scrolls title than Bethesda? After Skyrim and Oblivion, I have very little doubt about that.
Will it be the next Skyrim? No.
Will it be the next Skyrim? No.
Yep, I don't even like Skyrim and I think Bethesda themselves are incapable of replicating that success.
Let them make smaller scope games like TOW but please by god, let Josh Sawyer do the gameplay design.
TES VI is being developed by all three BGS studios so it'll be hard to compete with that scope. The Obsidian comparisons with BGS need to end anyway. They made 1 BGS styled game and that's it. They aren't compared to BioWare constantly despite making one BioWare game too. Let them do their own thing.
let's be real, the reason people want it is for console warring. It's another bullet point for fanboys.
Not with the amount of time and resources that an Elder Scrolls games take to make, with its level of quality, scope and detail. MS bought studios like these to make punctual games for Game Pass. They aren't going to greenlight stuff that takes 5+ years to make from smaller studios, even if it has AAA ambitions.
Soo... MS purchased Obsidian just to ride Bethesda's nuts the whole next gen? 😆only to get a new elder scrolls game anyway?
That is a sure fire way to push Bethesda towards the competition.
The Outer Worlds is awful.
That is a sure fire way to push Bethesda towards the competition.
The Outer Worlds is awful.
Actually comparing them to Bioware makes a lot more sense. They made Pillars which is a spiritual sequel to Baldurs Gate. They also made Kotor 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2, both sequels to Bioware games. And they made a few standalone expansions for Neverwinter 2, too.
I all honesty, if they make a skyrim like and it's good power to them, but it's not even going to compare when alls said and done because of mods. People know their way around the creation?(gamebryo) engine and has one of, if not the largest mod following out there. You can completely customise your experience in them as stuff starts rolling out and Obsidian would need a long time to hope to poach that following in a way they can be compared.
Of course, the worry on the BGS end there is the paid mods. But it's done little to change the scene in skyrim and if they want to monetise mods by default they have to keep putting out an SDK so I'm personally not really concerned much will change on that front
Of course, the worry on the BGS end there is the paid mods. But it's done little to change the scene in skyrim and if they want to monetise mods by default they have to keep putting out an SDK so I'm personally not really concerned much will change on that front
You have to love Resetera spin. Not every team they bought is going to make a huge game, not every studio they bought is going to be making a small game.
Still feel bad for folks getting extremely hyped for "OBSIDIAN'S NEW GAME" only to get baited by that lol
I'm sure they're capable, if it's something they want to do, but if they really want to be the "Skyrim killer" and match the scope and detail it would take a very, very long time to develop. Considering they just launched a game and clearly have at least one smaller project in the works. The game would be coming out like halfway through the Scarlett lifecycle.
Again, that's not to say they couldn't do it.
Again, that's not to say they couldn't do it.
I don't really like the concept of exclusives. This wouldn't affect me because I've fully bought into the Xbox ecosystem, but still.
They might as well use the Pillars Of Eternity world they created to make a third person action rpg.
No you don't understand, "The Economics of Gamepass" mean every studio they bought is now dedicated to churning out small 13-person bite-sized indie-style MTX games.
This despite "The Economics of Everyone Unsubscribing From Gamepass Because It's Full Of Nothing But Small 13-person Bite-Sized Indie-Style MTX Games, Which Isn't What They Signed Up For" being, yknow, pretty obviously bad.
Lol at 13 people to develop that game. Try 80 of the 180, especially if they want it out in the next year.
the outer worlds only just released, the didn't have to slap anything together. it's been a project a small team has been working on for awhile. i don't understand why people are trying to hard to be dismissive of it
Yeah makes perfect sense to claim there are 80 working on it after they told us 3 times it was only 13.
I'm just going from what Obsidian said:
Brennecke describes Grounded as a Metroidvania-like that it'll require you to craft items in order to proceed through the storyline and the gameworld, which will allegedly be "huge," despite being made by a team of only 13. Brennecke doesn't see the team getting any bigger. "I like it small and tight," he says before mentioning that most of the people working on it wear a variety of hats.
Adam Brennecke is the game director of this game.
And another tweet from Greenburg, who works for Microsoft
If you have any other information I would love to see the source.
But yea, those other 100+ developers are working on another project.
That'd be awesome. Just like when Rare got instant success by making games they were loved for when they went with Microsoft.
Not at all being dismissive... just simply stating this doesn't seem like the set direction of the studio moving forward.
And by slapped together I mean this seems like something that wouldn't have been on the docket to release if it wasn't for the fact that Obsidian is now owned by Microsoft who is looking to fill a schedule.
As far as a I know about the Ninja Theory game they shopped it around but no publishers were interested. This has a similar feel where publishers didn't want to roll the dice on it but Microsoft doesn't mind doing so because their investment is long term and not for a single title.
My bad. I didn't know they said that. Engines and assets really are crazy nowadays to be able to do that with 13 people!
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Apologies.
No worries, it actually surprised me as well when I first heard tbh. I thought it was a typo lol.