So what is it now, are the scenes described in the Spoiler actually in the Film or is it an alt-right campaign?
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So what is it now, are the scenes described in the Spoiler actually in the Film or is it an alt-right campaign?
That's what I was planning to do after the last thread, but I'm not sure now... might still watch it and go with an open mind, but if I reach a scene that I believe is too much and unnecessary/could've been framed differently, I'll just...
You should watch out for generalizations like this, because in the other thread someone got banned for that comment.
People should look at clips on Twitter and tell me that they could watch that even with context. It's disgusting seeing this.
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You can absolutely write a story about and 11 year old coming of age in a hypersexualized world without zooming in on her ass while she humps the floor.
I don't doubt that, white saviorisms aside, the film has a solid and well meaning message. It does seem to be gratuitous though.
I like how people are like: "yes, I totally agree with mark cernovich and the rest of the twitter right about how the black, muslim, woman who made a semi-autobiographical film about her lived experiences absolutely is a pedophile"
This is a work by a muslim artist.
I mean, I have seen more than one French film featuring young girls in very questionable role featuring nudity. They've all been on Netflix.
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By the way, the film is out now. Clips are readily available. We don't need to guess what's in the movie based on critic previews.
I assure you that most people only found out about the director's race after the initial shock.
Also, what's a more effective alt-right campaign is probably "the liberals defend this shit if the right people make it!"
Delete Twitter.
We say we want more films from PoC rooted in their unique experiences and world view
(Maïmouna Doucouré is a Sudanese refugee and the film reflects aspects of her childhood)
but when we get those films people are all like 'yeah. But not like that'
Its bullshit
We say we want more films from PoC rooted in their unique experiences and world view
(Maïmouna Doucouré is a Sudanese refugee and the film reflects aspects of her childhood)
but when we get those films people are all like 'yeah. But not like that'
Its bullshit
this is honest to god the most intersectional issue to ever face this forum, or perhaps the internet at large
we have a French high art film by a muslim filmmaker telling her story of abuse from parents and her cultural experience, all the while in a film filled with the sexualization of minors
there will be no survivors
we have a French high art film by a muslim filmmaker telling her story of abuse from parents and her cultural experience, all the while in a film filled with the sexualization of minors
there will be no survivors
The movie is out now, and given that there's clips floating around on the internet, I really don't want to watch this and am reasonably sure this isn't just "alt-right trolls". I'm not going to watch it.
Can you share the "parent guide" website that you linked those quotes from?
EDIT: Ah, IMDb, lol.
EDIT: Ah, IMDb, lol.
Disclaimer: I haven't seen the movie or the clips mentioned in the OP.
As a citizen of both countries who grew up moving back and forth between the two, I will say that women's breasts are less sexualized in France than in the US. Or maybe more normalized might be a better word. It's much more common to see breasts, in media or in person. I remember seeing Moi, César at a film festival as a kid in Seattle and all the Americans were shocked that there had been exposed breasts (it's a coming of age movie about 10 years olds).
At the same festival, my parents also took my brother and I to see Ridicule. The movie opens with a close-up shot of a guy urinating on an old invalid. To my parents, that was much less shocking than the non-stop murder and gun violence of standard American media.
So there is definitely a cultural difference aspect at play.
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I mean, it's blatant child porn.
We don't need to guess what's in the movie based on jpeg reviews either yet you felt it necessary to add them to the OP
are you suggesting anyone here defending the director and the film is a secret pedophile?
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In this case, yes, it's exactly this. I'm a black Muslim immigrant myself and I absolutely sympathize with this coming of age story, but this film is taking it too far.
My thoughts as well. That sounds pretty intense. I'll still read more impressions though.
I honestly thought Era was better than this thread after the last thread, but yikes here we go again. Imagine a pre-pubescent girl discovering her body and sexuality from watching Nicki Minaj or Doja Cat videos and then thinking that was ok to emulate. This seems like an important movie that's being swallowed by a bunch of ignorant (and lots of thinly veiled racist) pearl clutching and that's sad. If this movie is an indictment of hyper-sexualized western culture and how it effects young girls it definitely needs to be seen the most by the kind of people that would condemn it as pedophilia before even seeing it
No but anyone enjoying those scenes is really really questionable. Have you seen the dancing scene?
Yes but how about not shoving their asses into the camera, licking their fingers and zooming in, twerking, humping the floor and always zooming on the body parts? You can film that differently. I saw that and felt sick.
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I saw the clips. Ain't nothing secret about it if this is the hill you choose to die on.
I'm not watching it either. I just wanted to point out that those descriptions aren't official. Don't know how accurate they are.
If you listen to only the right wing/QAnon campaign and contextless user-edited parental guide and not people and critics who have seen it, sure.
I mean seeing that should be revolting to you. And then you should think about why an 11 year old would want to act like that and evaluate THAT problem. Looking at 11 year old girls shaking their butts and saying we need to stop that problem by cancelling Netflix is trying to stop the symptom and not the cause of a problem
That's not leading, like at all. I havent seen the film yet, I will tonight, but what patriarchical religions think about anti-patriarchical films is of no consequence. That is a different issue from how that is executed.
I don't need to see the same thing that those people love to see though. You can absolutely do that differently and not make me feel like immediately not wanting to watch this movie. So in a way it's even worse for me like this. I know there are problems and a movie like is needed for sure, but it doesn't help if most people are disgusted by those scenes and will stop watching it.
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