My heart.
Can you give share details on how this came about? Did Sony strike some some sort of Street Fighter V-esque deal with Konami, or have they secured the IP outright?
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So, is Kojima Productions teasing something?
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My heart.
Can you give share details on how this came about? Did Sony strike some some sort of Street Fighter V-esque deal with Konami, or have they secured the IP outright?
Konami aren't very well since they came full mobile. Pachinko's market isn't very good too. I assume they saw how well RE2 remake sold and decided to revive SH, that's what Masahiro Ito was talking about on Twitter.
I don't know if Silent Hill will be an exclusive, but I assume it will, like Silent Hills was supposed to be back in 2015 (at least timed exclusive).
Well, talking about Silent Hills revive with KJP, Sony don't want to fund the full game like they did with Death Stranding. Too expensive. It'll probably won't happen but KJP will still make an exclusive horror game for PS5. It's supposed to be a VR game for the PSVR 2, btw. And KJP is fully independant, PlayStation didn't acquire them.
Have you heard anything about Suikoden? Yeah I know but it's worth a shot
Wait. Its by KJP? Didnt you say its by Sony Japan, or did I misread something? Is it a partnership between SJ and KJP?
Hopefully it's just a timed exclusive so I can play it on Xbox. But if it's full exclusive, then I'll still be happy it exists due to Sony.
Unfortunalety, nope.
There's a Silent Hill reboot by Konami with Toyama and Ito. It's been in dev for 1 year so far.
And there's a Silent Hills revive that's still in talks between Konami, Sony and Kojima Productions. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. If there ain't any deal done, Kojima Productions will still make a VR horror game for PS5. It's just a bonus for it to be Silent Hills and for Sony to pay less funds in the development .
Thats actually the best case scenario. Thank you for calrifying. A horror game from Sony Japan and another from KJP on Vr potentially? Thats great news. I assume the Sony Japan game will be exclusive while the KJP game will see a chance to hit other VR hardware.
So who is the actual developer for SH? SIE Japan? Kojima Productions? Some Konami team? Toyama is with SIE Japan soooot.....wtf
When you say Konami and Toyama do you mean Konami and Sony Japan or Toyama going to Konami? Thank you for answering my questions!
I dont think KJP is involved in Silent Hill (lacking S), but may be involved with Silent Hills. As for where Sony Japan fits into this, I have no idea. I asked so lets wait for a response.
That's a good question. I only know that Toyama is in the team and that he's been working on it for 1 year, that's all. But since there are talks between Sony, KJP and Konami for Silent Hills, it's totally possible that the SH reboot could be in co-dev with Japan Studio. Didn't Dusk Golem said that the two new SH were external development ?
I dont remember Dusk saying that but thats definitely interesting. External development relative to Konami? If thats the case Sony could definitely be involved.
So it is true. I mean 90% of sales threads would display it as such but I guess it's something to hear someone who could potentially know say what the sales were vs expectations
Thanks for the info!
If Toyama/Sony Japan Studio are involved I'd assumed Sony is at least co-devoloping it. Interesting times ahead in any event. Silent Hill Reboot. KJP VR game, maybe Silent Hills. Yes please to all of those.
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Thats amazing. I would definitely assume Sony Japan now. How Exciting!
I guess Sony isnt giving up on exclusives for PS5, I guess Herman wasn't lying /s
Do you have any info regarding the possible Death Stranding DLC being talked about.
I really hope we get a Death Stranding 2. The game is flawed, but a sequel has the potential to remedy that. I just fucking love the infrastructure shit so much. I want a better game built around that.
As much as i like silent hill i really don't want kojima's next game to be silent hills, he finally got away from konami and got full creative freedom, i want him to make more new completely unique games like death stranding, i really like kojima unleashed.
Death stranding was my #2 game of the year for 2019, i love it but i don't want it to get a sequel, i like it as the weird unique game/story it was, not every game needs a sequel.
Death stranding was my #2 game of the year for 2019, i love it but i don't want it to get a sequel, i like it as the weird unique game/story it was, not every game needs a sequel.
I hope Kojipro doesn't (isn't) working on SH, or DS2. I just want to see new titles.
I hope it's an original horror game. (in fact when PT was revealed to be SHs. I was rather disappointed)
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Hi. KatharsisT I'm Shy. Sorry this is my first interaction with you.
if you don't mind me asking. have you heard anything about a new proper remaster for the older SH games.
I hope it's an original horror game. (in fact when PT was revealed to be SHs. I was rather disappointed)
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Hi. KatharsisT I'm Shy. Sorry this is my first interaction with you.
if you don't mind me asking. have you heard anything about a new proper remaster for the older SH games.
That's a real shame to hear.
I very much did not care for the story that game tried to tell, so for me, it's just the gameplay systems and mechanics that I want back. A sequel could strip away any and all narrative to just make an infrastructure sim and I would be on board.
No Death Stranding DLC in the works. Kojima said in an interview not so long ago that the game won't have any DLC.
Unfortunately he didn't get the full creative kingdom like you think. The game was supposed to be way darker initially but Sony didn't like that. A lot of things were changed in mid-dev. And the game was supposed to come out later, on PS5, so a lot of content has been cut like you can see in the artbook.
No remaster but a reboot of the first game by Toyama, Ito and Yamaoka.
Yeah. I saw you mention that earlier.
Was hoping that a remastering was in the cards also.
But thanks for answering.
Ohh, you have to (if you're able to) go waaaaaaaaaaay into to detail more about that. LOL.
I can't really go into details for now, but budget was cut, the game was more horrific initially and Kojima and Sony didn't agree on a lot of things by mid-dev. Sony got the last word unfortunately.
This is bizarre given that Sony proudly publishes titles with some of the darkest and most vile subject matter in mainstream games, like Bloodborne and Days Gone which both prominently feature child corpses or straight up child zombies that you gun down by the hundreds.
Absolutely, I don't really understand their decision. But there have been a lot of internal changes at PlayStation the past 2 years, could totally be the case.
Good point. I assume the problem was about the money and time required to do these horror elements/mechanics than the content itself. Like you said Sony produces some disturbing shit and is notorious about giving create freedom to their devs studios. I doubt DS would be darker than Bloodborne and KJP are independent.
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I don't know the full details of this, so let me be upfront with that. But my understanding is it was not "horror" stuff as much as "horrific" stuff, and there was some major disagreements on it and some other things.
Now, this is my own personal thoughts, I'm assuming that maybe it wasn't the content itself but maybe the context of it. Again, this is speculation on my part as it sounds weird to me too, but since there were disagreements and Sony was weirdly adamant on it, I'm assuming it must've been things Sony thought were tasteless or maybe horrific for just horrific's sake rather than being opposed to the content down by itself. I don't know that, but it's my speculation from the pieces I've heard.
I can see it being some really weird shit, like Junji Ito works (he was working with Kojima before right?).
My guess is Sony wanted a lower age rating for the game and didn't want to make it harder to sell the game
Disappointing to hear sony interfered with Death Stranding. I thought they were more hands-off compared to other publishers but I guess not.
That's understandable. But thanks for saying what you could.
I hope one day the full story will come out.
You're killing me. LOL.
Is there any source on that?
I have a hard time believing sony had any real significant creative influence on the game, death stranding was a huge get for sony why would they make those kinds of demands on the game when the last of us 2 seems way darker than death stranding, stuff from the artbook not being in the game means nothing, shit gets cut from games all the time.
And there is nothing to indicate sony being involved in kojima productions next game as far as i am aware, and even if sony would limit kojima's creativity it is still more creative freedom than making silent hill 9 under konami's strict thumb.
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