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So, I just realized The Expanse is no longer the best sci-fi show on TV.

SofNascimento

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This is:

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Trailer.

Holy shit.

I'm a big fan of Ronald D. Moore because of Battlestar Galactica (GOAT Sci-Fi show btw) but I wasn't a big fan of Caprica. And seeing some impressions about this show I thought it might follow the same path of ignoring sci-fi and not having good everything else (and I was mostly in this for the former). Yet I found this series handled the balance just pefectly. One because I find the dramatic parts to range from good to great. I can't say it will be reason alone for someone to watch the show, but I simply wanted to not dislike it, and I ended positively liking it. Especially some scenes with cetain characters.

But also because, although with less screen time, the space/technical related stuff is beyond incredible. The sfx brings happy tears to my eyes and they were really smart with some situations. The attention to detail about space, gravity, etc is very impressive. I loved it all. In particular the final episode which was Adama maneuver GOAT tier. It was pinnacle hard sci-fi.

To finish, this is the post credit scene for the last episode. It has some light spoilers obviously (nothing major, nothing that will distract you from the series), but if you want to see if you should give this show a chance and the trailer is not enough, I can't think of anything better. If you love space, this has to put a huge grin in your face. It just has to:

 
DrEvil

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For all mankind is my favourite AppleTV+ offering, followed very closely by Mythic Quest.

More people need to watch this. The intro sequence alone is phenomenal.
 
Ashok

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Wait this show is actually good? It seemed like it came out with barely any fanfare but now I might have to actually start it.
 
SirMossyBloke

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I got to episode 2 and stopped. I should probably keep going. I keep forgetting about Apple TV+ because they like to shove it in with everything else.
 
Lucreto

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Never heard of it before. But it's on Apple TV so I guess that's the reason why.
 
Kalik

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I heard the show is a very slow burn...how many episodes does it take before it gets really good?
 
spam musubi

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0VERBYTE said:
is it available for streaming anywhere else? Anywhere at all...?
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It's an Apple original, so no. but you don't have to have an Apple device to watch it. tv.apple.com, also some smart TVs have it I think.

agreed that the show is great, though I thought the last episode lost a bit of momentum. Still interested in seeing where it goes next season
 
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spam musubi said:
It's an Apple original, so no. but you don't have to have an Apple device to watch it. tv.apple.com, also some smart TVs have it I think.

agreed that the show is great, though I thought the last episode lost a bit of momentum. Still interested in seeing where it goes next season
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oh. ok good to know. Ill check it out then.
 
-Pyromaniac-

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I loved for all mankind. And I love the expanse. Can't compare them because they're so different and I need more of for all mankind.

Great acting and just overall vibe on for all mankind. I'm so curious to see how far Ron Moore will take it.
 
Faenix1

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Bah. Title had me excited for a show to replace The Expanse with, how I miss that damn show, but it's Apple TV+.
 
Comrade Crunch

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The first season was alright. I can definitely see it getting better as it goes on. I like the Expanse more, but that could just be because its setting is immediately more visually alluring and it's also had four seasons to come into its own.

I love how much sci-fi television we're getting now.
 
ilikesanta

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Holy crap I just realized I never finished the newest season of The Expanse. I got bored in the middle, and I thought the OP was having a similar experience.
 
Huey

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big problem is I actually have the year of free Apple TV+ but I don't have an Apple TV or a television that supports the app. So basically no way to watch on my television as apple locks out chromecast. between launching with no back catalogue and decisions like this, it just doesnt seem like a viable service.

also heavily skeptical it's better than the expanse but totally willing to give it a try, Apple just doesn't want me to.

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Bah. Title had me excited for a show to replace The Expanse with, how I miss that damn show
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but... season 4 just came out?
 
Jag

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It's really, really good. I couldn't stop watching it....

but the Expanse is still god-tier sci-fi.

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To finish, this is the post credit scene for the last episode. It has some light spoilers obviously (nothing major, nothing that will distract you from the series), but if you want to see if you should give this show a chance and the trailer is not enough, I can't think of anything better. If you love space, this has to put a huge grin in your face. It just has to:
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Which was actually supposed to be a real thing.

The Sea Dragon was a 1962 conceptualized design study for a two-stage sea-launched orbital super heavy-lift launch vehicle. The project was led by Robert Truax while working at Aerojet, one of a number of designs he created that were to be launched by floating the rocket in the ocean. Although there was some interest at both NASA and Todd Shipyards, the project was not implemented. At the massive dimensions of 150 m (490 ft) long and 23 m (75 ft) in diameter, Sea Dragon would have been the largest rocket ever built. As of 2018, among rockets that have been fully conceived, it is by far the largest ever and, in terms of payload into low Earth orbit (LEO), rivaled only by the Interplanetary Transport System in its expendable configuration.
 
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spam musubi said:
It's an Apple original, so no. but you don't have to have an Apple device to watch it. tv.apple.com, also some smart TVs have it I think.

agreed that the show is great, though I thought the last episode lost a bit of momentum. Still interested in seeing where it goes next season
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Part of me would like for them to get closer ]to the present day or at least modern rocketry. You know, SpaceX stuff, reusable rockets, etc.. The challenge is what to do with the USSR.
 
CrabDust

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Knowing where the story goes, there's zero chance this is better than the Expanse. However, really nice production design and cast, I might check this out for that alone. Gotta say, the story from that trailer looks like total fluff.
 
UltraMav

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Oh shit Ron Moore is back in space? Ugh I might have to actually subscribe to Apple now.
 
RDreamer

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I absolutely adored For All Mankind. Hard to compare to The Expanse because they hit different notes and the Expanse is obviously longer.

Still, it's a must watch show in my opinion.
 
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Jag said:
It's really, really good. I couldn't stop watching it....

but the Expanse is still god-tier sci-fi.



Which was actually supposed to be a real thing.

The Sea Dragon was a 1962 conceptualized design study for a two-stage sea-launched orbital super heavy-lift launch vehicle. The project was led by Robert Truax while working at Aerojet, one of a number of designs he created that were to be launched by floating the rocket in the ocean. Although there was some interest at both NASA and Todd Shipyards, the project was not implemented. At the massive dimensions of 150 m (490 ft) long and 23 m (75 ft) in diameter, Sea Dragon would have been the largest rocket ever built. As of 2018, among rockets that have been fully conceived, it is by far the largest ever and, in terms of payload into low Earth orbit (LEO), rivaled only by the Interplanetary Transport System in its expendable configuration.
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Yeah, I think the scene is particularly powerful if you knew about it. It's a love letter in a way. Wrote by people that love space and sci-fi and all that.

CrabDust said:
Knowing where the story goes, there's zero chance this is better than the Expanse. However, really nice production design and cast, I might check this out for that alone. Gotta say, the story from that trailer looks like total fluff.
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What you mean by that? I thought the story only got better.

Tragicomedy said:
I've never heard of this show and still know you're wrong. 😂
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Being technical, I only said it was best than the 4th season of The Expanse. And in that I am correct. If we compare with the other seasons, it gets very tough to decide.
 
thediamondage

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extremely hyperbolic title, show is good but nowhere near the level of expanse. Maybe after a few seasons but I have real doubts

now yeah, maybe season 4 of expanse vs season 1 of For All Mankind but it seems unfair to compare things that way, especially given how stellar seasons 1 & 2 of The Expanse were
 
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To all people saying it's very different to The Expanse, I should say you are correct, but they do have a similar vein when it comes to real physics and being faithful to it. There were scenes that reminded me of the Amazon's show because of that.

Indeed, we can compare the scene in space from the last episode of both shows (or the episode before the last in The Expanse season 4) that might be very different in context and on surface, but have the same underline source of drama, using physics to create an exciting scenario and trying to faifhfully recreate it on screen, both visually and mathematically. And the scene from For All Mankind was way, way more successful.
 
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I still have no idea how to get Apple TV or tbh even what it is. But recently I saw they made a show about Emily Dickinson and I absolutely must watch that. This seems interesting too. Hmm time to google I guess. What's one more subscription?
 
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thediamondage said:
extremely hyperbolic title, show is good but nowhere near the level of expanse. Maybe after a few seasons but I have real doubts

now yeah, maybe season 4 of expanse vs season 1 of For All Mankind but it seems unfair to compare things that way, especially given how stellar seasons 1 & 2 of The Expanse were
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It's not hyperbolic, certainly not extremely. Possibly overly enthusiastic, but I've seen a lot of "The Expanse is the best TV show you're not watching" articles out there so it's only fair.
 
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The show has a HBO like quality to it. Technically it's closer to two Amazon Prime shows, Man in the High Castle and Hunters, both of which explore alternate histories.

I have yet to watch the final episode (ep 10 I believe). To those who have watched it... will there be another season?
 
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The show has a HBO like quality to it. Technically it's closer to two Amazon Prime shows, Man in the High Castle and Hunters, both of which explore alternate histories.

I have yet to watch the final episode (ep 10 I believe). To those who have watched it... will there be another season?
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Yes, I believe Apple renewed all its original shows for a second season.
 
Voytek

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Title got me all excited, watched trailer, this is nothing like Expanse and not something I'd even be interested in watching.
 
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Ashok said:
Wait this show is actually good? It seemed like it came out with barely any fanfare but now I might have to actually start it.
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Considering almost no one uses TV+ who is going to talk about it? We had a thread not too long ago that only like 10% of people who have it free for a year even use it.
 
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Considering almost no one uses TV+ who is going to talk about it? We had a thread not too long ago that only like 10% of people who have it free for a year even use it.
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I got it free and had no plan on watching anything. Then I watched Morning Show, For All Mankind and Mythic Quest. Three really good shows.
 

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I binged it during the 7 day free trial and really enjoyed. It doesn't beat The Expanse for me personally, but I'm excited for the second season.
 
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