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So, do we agree that masocore is the name of the Souls/Nioh/[Insert super hard game] genre?
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I mean masocore is the name of the super hard game genre. But the soulslike games are no where near that hard. Just because you can die a lot by being bad at it, doesn't mean it is a masocore. Calling Soulslikes Masocore games really devalues the name.
Did Nioh 2 seriously say that in its PR? That's hilarious.
Did Nioh 2 seriously say that in its PR? That's hilarious.
I do love that every thread that starts with "So, do we agree" is always a deeply controversial opinion, that most people will not agree with.
I've never even heard of the term before this thread so no we don't agree.
Also it sounds dumb and cringy.
Also it sounds dumb and cringy.
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We could call fellow genre amateurs the masocorists. Think of the possibilities
That sounds like a term that From Softwares competitors want to use to take focus away from Dark Souls and Miyazaki's other games having such a huge effect on the genre.
It's either Masocore, or I'm going to keep tagging names to the end of Souls like it was stupid the first time people did it.
SoulsBorneKiroRing
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Also for people unaware- it's been around.
www.giantbomb.com
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EDIT:
Also for people unaware- it's been around.
Masocore (Concept) - Giant Bomb
Through trial and error gameplay, complex game mechanics and intense difficulty, masocore games are specifically designed to frustrate players over and over again.
www.giantbomb.com
Platform Hell - TV Tropes
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a plumber jumping into an invisible coin block and falling to his death, repeatedly- forever. Video game protagonists often have bad days. It's not uncommon to have to Double Jump between Floating …
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can we agree on stopping trying to find new names to stuff thats already stablished
soulslike are not masocore, metroidvanias are not pathfinders, beat'em'ups are not belt scrollers. stop trying to make [insert whatever new bullshit here] happen.
soulslike are not masocore, metroidvanias are not pathfinders, beat'em'ups are not belt scrollers. stop trying to make [insert whatever new bullshit here] happen.
Soulslike is fine (if the game actually is Souslike). Soulsborne was always annoying. Good to see it fading away somewhat.
Masocore will never catch on widely.
Masocore will never catch on widely.
Who is using Masocore to refer to souls type games? That's for your iwtbtg's and cat marios of the world
It's not because you think a game is hard that other people play it for masochistic reasons.
I wanna be the guy and Kaizo Mario type games are really really different from a challenging action rpg.
Is Contra masocore? What about Ghost'n'Goblins? Maybe Sonic in an actual Mega Drive without save states? Imo any Souls game is a lot easier than Sonic without save states.
I wanna be the guy and Kaizo Mario type games are really really different from a challenging action rpg.
Is Contra masocore? What about Ghost'n'Goblins? Maybe Sonic in an actual Mega Drive without save states? Imo any Souls game is a lot easier than Sonic without save states.
Sounds like (yet another) sub genre of metal... It's souls like. From deserve credit for what they gave us.
As someone who has beat all the modern From games several times over, and couldn't last longer than five minutes with I Wanna Be the Guy, they are not the same genre of game. I don't think Souls games should be defined by their difficulty, regardless if you think they are hard or not. What makes them unique and appealing is not the difficulty.
Shoulda been first post.
Souls games can be challenging at times but they're not really that hard yo.
I feel disgusted by that name. It sounds like it is trying too hard to be edgy. I feel like soulsborn is a good name. Because the game plays around with soul system, and how you are reborn after you die
Why are people opposed on principle to genre names that include a specific game? Soulslike works fine.
I'll never understand how Dark Souls got a reputation for being THAT hard. Yeah, you have to play more carefully than many other action games, but "masocore" is just ridiculous.
Also, "hard game" is not a genre. I love the game, but the harder challenges in Celeste truly are masochistic, particularly the final DLC level. It's a lot more useful to call it a platformer than to claim it belongs in the same genre as Nioh because they're both difficult.
Also, "hard game" is not a genre. I love the game, but the harder challenges in Celeste truly are masochistic, particularly the final DLC level. It's a lot more useful to call it a platformer than to claim it belongs in the same genre as Nioh because they're both difficult.
I'm a bit biased, but I am very pro the term Roguelike. I fucking love the original Rogue. I used to watch my Dad play it while sitting on his lap when I was a toddler.
So the term Roguelike is just the best one we've got. The things that link those games together is that they are all building off of the core mechanics or Rogue.
