Solas more or less tells you "Your people are all savage monsters but you're one of the good ones" if you impress him as a Qunari. Very satisfying to tell him to fuck off.
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So.. damn, the DA: Inquisition DLC kinda slaps.
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The keep still works. Well last year it did because I made a new tapestry for Origins and Da 2 since I didnt feel like playing 2 lol.
Yeah, everytime I try to be mean, just seeing the companions reactions, I just can't continue
I always have some cold sweats when I read "name-of-NPC greatly disapproves" while making big decisions. Except if it's Vivienne, I respect her and think she looks amazing, but she can fuck off. On my most recent playthrough, I've been having really low-approval with her, and it's amazing how fucking petty and shady she gets, ahah!
So, the reason most of the Mages in DA2 go mental is partly because of the city itself
dragonage.fandom.com
Kirkwall, originally called Emerius, is suspected to maybe at one point have been the ritual site for where the magsiters entered the Black City
The city is constructed in such a way that the sewers are very clearly designed for channeling blood downwards, and during the Teviniter Emperium, an unusually high number of slaves would disappear there
its also home to a demon called Xebenkeck- one of the demons who taught humans blood magic.
Its a giant demonic magic conduit. Which is why so much crazy shit happens there
*edit* I love Dragon Age lore haha
Band of Three
The Band of Three was a group of scholars vowed to researching the history of Kirkwall during and prior to the Tevinter occupation. The Seekers of Truth in Kirkwall secretly created the Band of Three to investigate why there are so many blood mages in the city, the nature of the Veil there and...
dragonage.fandom.com
Kirkwall, originally called Emerius, is suspected to maybe at one point have been the ritual site for where the magsiters entered the Black City
The city is constructed in such a way that the sewers are very clearly designed for channeling blood downwards, and during the Teviniter Emperium, an unusually high number of slaves would disappear there
its also home to a demon called Xebenkeck- one of the demons who taught humans blood magic.
Its a giant demonic magic conduit. Which is why so much crazy shit happens there
*edit* I love Dragon Age lore haha
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i usually tried my best to not upset my companions too. even vivienne in the few times i used her, i didnt think it was that hard to not step on her toes all the time, but granted i didnt use her that much.
except morrigan, since anything but kicking a puppy upsets her. screw morrigan. "morrigan disapproves" yeah savour it, theres more coming
Playing DA:I as Lavellan really is just an exercise in self-torture. "Haha the Dalish are stupid. Ew, elves are lame. Why can't you assimilate and worship the Maker? Everything you know is wrong. Here are a bunch of elves shitting on the Dalish. Oh, your whole clan got unceremoniously offed in a war table mission and you didn't even notice because you don't read the text? Lol. By the way your gods are fake and the tattoos you wear to honour them are actually slave markings. Fuck you."
Honestly it wasn't made on purpose, I was just being myself, and explaining my beliefs to her, she just so happens to not align with them much and makes that very clear. I do always get a slightly better approval once I complete her character quests though, and she warms up a bit more then. But yeah, ideologically, politically, we are dramatically different and I'll seldom concede her much points in that regard.
As for Morrigan... Honestly I don't know, I'm kinda neutral about her. All I know is that I'll never ever let her drink from the well of sorrows, for sure, damn shemlen trying to get in on elvhen artifacts/power!
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Yeah, I really like Morrigan's development but am also kinda neutral on her character, she kind of reminds me of Solas were she acts like she knows everything but honestly doesn't actually have the knowledge to back it up and can be quite cruel to others. The times when she's kinder are better and I hope we get more of that side of her. Also I'm kind of scared of that Well if Sorrow and think Morrigan will really regret drinking from it so let her take the fall, though I may end of changing my mind on this
This is nearly exactly how I like to describe Inquisiton but shifting the numbers around (a lot). Inquisition is killer 30-40 hour RPG trapped under 70 extra hours of MMO fluff and why repeat playthroughs are very difficult to even want to undertake. I started a second playthrough but still got lost in minutae in the hinterlands and haven't left that area and ended up getting side tracked as I tend to do.
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I wasn't really impressed by the two 'other' DLCs. Jaws of Hakkon was still largely a big open world MMO fluff DLC and the area story and design didn't exactly hook me a lot or even made much of an impression. It was pseudo-vikings and not much else to me. Maybe the Solas-romance adds a different flavor to the entire thing given what people have said about it but coming to that DLC long *long* after that fact in a post-game Qunari Inquisitor, the story of Jaws was completely nonplussing.
Descent is mediocre with a cool neat lore dump towards the end but as someone that has always had a fondness for the Deep Roads and their aesthetic (I always liked that section story-telling wise in Origins), I didn't mind it as much. Being much shorter and combat dungeon crawling focused helped reduce the "MMO fluff" feeling nature of the game.
Trespasser is good. But honestly the way people constantly hyped up Trespasser probably warped my expectations for it to do a bit more. It's absolutely a neat epilogue DLC but the way people talk about it make it seem much more meaty and chewy storytelling wise than it honestly ends up being. General spoilers for trespasser just in case: It's just sort of a lot of humming-and-hawing until the big five minute final encounter with Solas at the end of the DLC. The entire meat and impact of that DLC is all concentrated in its closing moments and everything before that is largely just... okay and serving as light epilogue and seeing characters again in a post-game context .
I like Inquisition a good bit but I only played through it fully the once at launch and any nuance or details in the storytelling is largely gone to me now aside from the big *big* moments. And also Morrigan but I can literally never say no to Morrigan. I still genuinely like Inquisition a lot and it was cool to see Loghain again. Sorry Hawke, I can't let my man Loghain go.
I started a second character, lady elf (for very obvious reasons), but never got very far with that second playthrough as I said. I will try to get back around to it once I burn through a lot of these game pass games I'm going through. I do feel a bit disconnected/jaded in a lot of the discourse around the game because, epsecially going into Inquisition, I just don't care much for Bioware romance writing anymore. So much of it feels like dating sim + extra RPG attached as far as many conversations seem to go so if you're not into the romancing stuff it feels like you miss a huge huge portion of the character writing. Though it's a bit ironic for me to say that cause I will, as I said, literally never say no to Morrigan but I guess that's cause Origins hit at the different moment for me and I'm now just not as much into the romance stuff.
Filth.
Gaspard in charge all day, every day. He's such a bro. He also keeps his word.
Why you say that like it's arguable? She sucks hard.
Taking her into the fade as mage Hawke made that abudantly clear even before the nonsense with the guards.
Pretty sure that's meant to be vague. Even Solas is pretty I dunno to the Maker existing.
Least with Morrigan you can throw gifts at her til she stops whining. Everyone else though ugh.
Trespasser is incredible, especially if you're a playing as an elf female who romanced Solas. Alix Wilton Regan's performance is incredible.
All sorts of implications for now, but truthfully the game set up the lore in a way that it is both viable for both the Maker to exist and not exist.
I do not think this is something that they would specifically resolve in a definitive manner.
All sorts of implications for now, but truthfully the game set up the lore in a way that it is both viable for both the Maker to exist and not exist.
I do not think this is something that they would specifically resolve in a definitive manner.
You should try a walkthrough where all the party members hate the Inquisitor.
It's amazing. You get to punch people, lol.
If the Maker exists, he doesn't care about you or me. And you shouldn't care about him either. What's the point of worshipping somone who "ghosted" all living beings?
Andraste though, she existed (proven by the temple ghosts). She is far more worthy of being called a god. She actually helped the people. And she was barbecued for it.
Andraste though, she existed (proven by the temple ghosts). She is far more worthy of being called a god. She actually helped the people. And she was barbecued for it.
God I love the Dragon Age lore. At first glance it's your typical fantasy set up but if you just delve deeper you get to explore so many really cool stuff.
The DLC is all good.
The Descent even made the fucking Deep Roads entertaining, if not batshit hard at some points.
The Descent even made the fucking Deep Roads entertaining, if not batshit hard at some points.
I think many people would recommend trespasser to you as it wraps up some things :-)
Part of the fun ;P trying new romance options playing a different gender.
I am replaying the game right now. It is a better game in a lot of aspects that i remember but that is probably because i am in no hurry to go through the main story. It is very enjoyable to just jump in for a few hours and explore an area. Next time try another area etc. The art in this game is really good (especially those cards they are amazing). Never did play the dlc but i checked on origin and they are 30 so i guess i will pass for now (always a problem with pricing and dlc on origin for some reason they never seem to drop much).
Bioware has said they will never reveal that. They want it to remain ambiguous.
I mean, if by 'bro' you mean a deeply racist,homophobic, imperialist, paternalistic douche who makes a big deal about honour and then attacks people who can't possibly fight back, and constantly cheats because he can't win on his merits alone.
Sigh....I need to start Solavellan playthrough, aren't I ?
Well plenty of time before DA4 drops.
Speaking of S.Harding, it took me a longggggg time (and multiple playthrough) to realize she is a dwarf....I thought she was just standing in lower elevation when talking to you...
I was really happy with Cassandra being Divine on my playthrough, esp. with her being romanced. It makes for really great conversations in Trespasser. My Leliana is happy adventuring with my DAO Warden, probably breeding an army of nugs.
You'd be amazed how many people (mostly men) tout her as the ultimate Stronk Female Character(TM) because she's not conventionally attractive and swings a sword, like that makes up for her being fucking garbage.
Art direction, yo. I'm playing through The Witcher 3 atm, and while it is a gorgeous game and the map is sprawling and very lived in, I prefer the art direction of Inquisition. It's more stylized and the use of colors, the various locations, and the ambiance of each location is more my aesthetic.
It did but the way you'd hear people talk about you'd think it didn't. Most threads, here and beyond usually say it's a game not worth playing.
This is legit one of the first positive threads on the game in a long long time.
Imagine thinking Gaspard isn't a POS who deserves to be scraped entirely from the face of Thedas, couldn't be me!
Yet he isn't the one that burned down an entire slum full of elves or that killed all their own elhven servants to hide the fact they were going to assassinate the then emperor so they could gain the throne and then used that to gain sympathy? Celene does the same or worse things then Gaspard, she just has so much better propaganda that she sometimes even believes herself
Oh definitely, but I'd rather deal with Celene still. Although I find it easier to manipulate her through Briala while openly advancing Elvhen rights, it's purely political here. Ideally, I'd rather have Briala, like I said earlier, but realistically, this option has lesser chances for stability, prosperity and actual changes that are here to stay forever. Briala alone would get herself killed in the blink of an eye, and elves would go back to being an even lesser class than they already are.
iv been wanting to play through the full trillogy again since quarantine started, but there are always rumors of a remaster/rerelease, so i keep waiting.
The DLC in Inquisition was some of the most satisfying stuff i played last gen.
So much revealed about the greater lore of the DA universe, and Trespasser hit just too hard for elven inquisitors.
The DLC in Inquisition was some of the most satisfying stuff i played last gen.
So much revealed about the greater lore of the DA universe, and Trespasser hit just too hard for elven inquisitors.
You don't have the option for Briala alone what you do have an option for us having Briala as the real power behind the throne of Gaspard and she absolutely pushes elhven rights forward. Celene has too much history of doing a little for elhven rights then sliding back when it's convenient for her, as well as being abusive and manipulative to Briala that I don't want her near her. Though I am also partial to allowing all of them to live as a public truce and then them going back to their war after because then Orlais is in a weaker position and are less able to invade Nevarra and Fereldan , and even though Celene will say politically she isn't for expansionism, it sounds at the end she is absolutely gearing up for that because it maintains her power.
There I don't agree though. Having Briala pushing for elvhen rights through Gaspard is nowhere near enough to me. I mean, it gets some of the job done, but it also severely undercuts representation for elves. I want Briala to have a status of power, in the public eye, and be accepted as such, and be a model and the visual proof to many elves accross Thedas that yes, someone is pushing forward, someone is succeeding. I don't want her to stay behind the scenes at all, and let Gaspard get all the credits for it, he doesn't deserve it in the slightest, he's a huge POS. With Celene + Briala in power with an equal footing, people will know exactly who is fighting for their rights and why.
But we'll probably only truly know the repercussion of that choice in DA4 though. As far as DA:I epilogue goes, I still think Celene + Briala was my better option there.
People praising Jaws of Hakkon's story confuses me hella bad cause none of it felt particularly important or noteworthy. The Descent at least has cool lore and world implications in it but Jaws of Hakkon really didn't have anything if you happen to not have the very particular set up that was pointed out over the past couple pages (Solas romance). I genuinely had to go read up on the story again with having played through it the first time last year and drawing a *complete* blank on it.
I wish it was easier to replay Inquisition cause it has a really neat story that I would like to try different routes through and see other things but it is such a pacing slog and wish it wasn't so grossly padded out. I have probably a dozen playthroughs of Origins (and at least two of Dragon Age 2) but could barely start a second of Inquisition because it's such a long undertaking to get to the good stuff.
I wish it was easier to replay Inquisition cause it has a really neat story that I would like to try different routes through and see other things but it is such a pacing slog and wish it wasn't so grossly padded out. I have probably a dozen playthroughs of Origins (and at least two of Dragon Age 2) but could barely start a second of Inquisition because it's such a long undertaking to get to the good stuff.
I do like how DA I looks but you can see last gen compromises , especially with no day and night cycle and the main city was pretty underwhelming. Also I think DA I goes for that high fantasy aesthetic and every closed off zone can be quite varried and still not be jarring since it fits with the overall aesthetic of the world. Witcher 3 goes for that dark fantasy more lived in feel of the world and it works fantastically well , but the scenery cant be quite as varied due to adherence to more realistic style and topography
Kind of random, but I was thinking about DA4 and man, I just really hope they go back to a 'silent' protagonist like in Origins. It isn't a perfect system, especially not for the kind of cinematic RPG Dragon Age wants to be. But every time I revisit Inquisition I feel so stifled by the 4 VAs and the lack of roleplaying options concerning the Inquisitor's background. Like I love Alix Wilton Regan's voice acting, I really do. But she wasn't quite the British voice I had in mind for my qunari. The games provides you with a couple of opportunities to flesh out your backstory through conversation but most options feel bland, as do the responses for that matter.
Also, aside from Tevinter I hope Antiva, Rivain and Nevarra get some love. Rivain in particular is painfully underused by the games.
Also, aside from Tevinter I hope Antiva, Rivain and Nevarra get some love. Rivain in particular is painfully underused by the games.
To be fair, I always thought it was obvious that it was Briala pushing for the elves as it seems that way in the slides, plus she still gets the Marquis title with Gaspard. We'll agree to disagree though 😊 I think though that at some point in the future, probably next game, that who rules Nevarra is going to come up as the current King is very old and doesn't really have clear heirs, and it sounds like Orlais will go after it like they did in the past. I'm kinda tempted to have no clear winner for that fact but I also want Briala in a position of power so 🤷♀️
Ha! I'm just joking, Gaspard is a pure bastard like everyone else in Val Royeaux. But, he offers the best outcome in terms of stability to me. Plus I liked the way he speaks to your Inquisitor upon first meeting.
It's a neat situation in DA:I because no leader is an obvious moral choice. Celene, Briala, and Gaspard all suck big time with glaring issues in terms of morality. So unlike Origins where Alistair is clearly the best choice as King, no ruler can really be considered the "best" in DA:I.
It's my favorite video game lore, it's very expansive and interesting.