Every mage in DA2 turns to blood magic, EVERY mage. I honestly can't think of a single mage you interact with who doesn't. They really tried to "both sides" the dispute really hard with DA2.
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So.. damn, the DA: Inquisition DLC kinda slaps.
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Every mage in DA2 turns to blood magic, EVERY mage. I honestly can't think of a single mage you interact with who doesn't. They really tried to "both sides" the dispute really hard with DA2.
I never really saw it as "both sides" and more as "oppression is truly what's causing mages to get desperate". The three games are filled with lore about mages that turned to blood magic as a desperate means of survival or protection, rather than just lust for power. And it's a cycle of oppression, because Templars in turn push even harder, never taking responsibility for driving the mages to desperate acts. I never felt the game was trying to justify the Templars' actions.
The whole templar-mage war is fault of the chantry. Their antimage stance makes the templars very oppressive towards mages, while making them addicts to lyrium which they control.
And lyrium is not only addictive but changes the taker to more emotionless and less caring as well. Something the chantry is fully aware of
I originally beat the game in 2013, but only got aeound to the dlcs last year. I remember enjoying them, but don't really remember much of what happened in Trespasser besides this one event.
Iron Bull, my bro that was one my squad 24/7, betrayed me and I had to kill him.
I understand that it happened because I allowed his crew to die so we could gain support of the Qnari, in turn having him realign with Qunari, so when they turn against me so does he.
makes complete sense, but FUCK I made that choice 6yrs ago and you gotta do me dirty in a DLC?
I understand that it happened because I allowed his crew to die so we could gain support of the Qnari, in turn having him realign with Qunari, so when they turn against me so does he.
makes complete sense, but FUCK I made that choice 6yrs ago and you gotta do me dirty in a DLC?
Yo, okay, I get how it looks, but we were facing a worldwide threat, and I didn't SACRIFICE them, I just didn't SAVE them at the expense of a whole army of badasses.
I understand why Bull stabbed me in the back, but goddamn in a DLC? I Thought my companions were safe
I understand why Bull stabbed me in the back, but goddamn in a DLC? I Thought my companions were safe
Knight Enchanter. Get the spirit blade talent and the talent that lets your damage buff your barrier and then get Fire Mine from the pyromancy tree and give it the upgrade that creates 3 mines in front of you. Also make sure to get the barrier and dispel spells from the spirit tree. Everything after that is gravy but with those skills you become basically unkillable while doing loads of damage.
Mages are born with rocket launches as fingers and gasoline in their blood.
A child, possessed by a demon, slaughtered most of old Redcliffe.
A mage, right now, is plotting to unzip the world after having zipped it. How could we not regulate mages?
And by the way, we need to regulate Templars, too. For they are mages of a different sort, mages in disguise with special abilities from lyrium.
I would like the Divine to care about those of us without magic, without lyrium, without fancy titles. Stop oppressing elves, stop selling them to Tevinter. Let all people become revered mothers, even if the Maker is a lie. Keep the circles. Reform them. Reform the templar order.
In my opinion.
A child, possessed by a demon, slaughtered most of old Redcliffe.
A mage, right now, is plotting to unzip the world after having zipped it. How could we not regulate mages?
And by the way, we need to regulate Templars, too. For they are mages of a different sort, mages in disguise with special abilities from lyrium.
I would like the Divine to care about those of us without magic, without lyrium, without fancy titles. Stop oppressing elves, stop selling them to Tevinter. Let all people become revered mothers, even if the Maker is a lie. Keep the circles. Reform them. Reform the templar order.
In my opinion.
Let this be an important lesson to you. The Qun do not consider treaties with Bas as important and fulfil them only when it suits the Qun to do so. Also, never ever let Krem die
I did some googling and couldn't find definitive answers - did either console get any kind of boost/upgrade/patch? Is PC by far the best way to play this? I played about 20 hours across two characters on original Xbox and poked back at this a few months ago on X1X and it looked so, so, so ugly I hate to admit I just gave up, but hearing this makes me want to play it.
Thanks ! I always find them to be boring, hope things are going to change with that play.
You'll love the story so much that graphics will not be a problem.
I don't know if you played KE before the Trespasser patch but they made Spirit Blade something you have to weave between other spells now so it's not really a one button spam spec like it used to be. I find it pretty interactive.
Thanks for mentioning this, I didn't know that.
I never actually did another playthrough after the final patch that added Trials and additional ability traits. I'm really pumped to dive back in sometime.
I just wish my Dwarven Warden from Origins was referenced - especially in the conversation around castes.
Just started this game. Got hold of the GOTY edition with all DLC included, and I have been wanting to play it since release, but I never got around to it. About 8 hours into it, moving away from The Hinterlands. I have no clue what is actually going on though. It feels like I am just trying to get quests done in order to get points to unlock new areas, but I don't feel I am truly progressing in terms of gear or story, at least not with a whole lot of aimed efforts. Anyone got a guide to refer to or something, because I am enjoying the gameplay a lot!
Personally love putting Briala in charge of Orlais and making Leliana divine. Fuck Celene and I love Cass but not as divine.
I tried to play with Vivienne but the button spamming was boring.
Take your time to fully explore every area. If you want some challenge you can fight the weaker dragons.
I concur, the best parts of the game. What a pity that there were no PRO/X enhancement. They could have reignited sales after the Anthem/Andromeda fiasco.
Does he come around, though? Cullen in DA:I honestly reminds me of how Daenerys was handled towards the end of Game of Thrones. A character is presented in a different light and the audience is supposed to just accept it, but there's no real character development. Cullen is an extremist in DA2, right up until the end where Meredith wants to execute every mage in Kirkwall for a crime they didn't commit and he goes along with it. Then in Inquisition suddenly he's a Good Boi™ and you're supposed to love him, but he never actually works to atone for his crimes, gets punished in any way, or even seems to have changed his views that much. In fact, he lowkey defends Meredith, saying that "her methods were harsh, but they kept people safe".
I get that canonically he's supposed to be a changed man but it's just really badly written.
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Seeing this art for the first time this never actually crossed my mind.
I just don't understand why Hawke had to be so opinionated regarding blood magic and the Wardens, of course that was going to piss some people off, and it's just so unneccesary. It's also weird how they're all about fighting Corypheus to atone for releasing him, but then just go to Weisshaupt instead.
There's Anders (bad example maybe lol), Bethany, Feynriel, the Saarebas and one or two of the mages you hunt down for Meredith, off the top of my head. Also a lot of the circle mages during The Last Straw. It's not literally every mage.
Awesome!
There are only 4 valid templars and they are Alistair, Carver, Samson and Barris. All the others are GARBAGE.
Also Aveline sucks there I said it.
Also Aveline sucks there I said it.
Remember when a guard raped an elf and she did nothing? Good times.
ACAB.
That's Inquisition, we were talking DA2 which is Both Sides: The Game.
I disagree with that too, the only time it even comes close is Anders forcing the conflict at the end but even then that was because he realized that nothing was going to change.
And he and Justice had both made each other worse versions of each other to become Vengence. Though ironically it's not even Anders that ends up causing the Mage Rebellion but the main causes are Wynne and Cole (and Wynne's son but Wynne more on purpose set it in motion with her plans, even if she didn't seem to originally want an armed conflict if it could be avoided)
Yea I watched the shit out of her playlist this morning lol I had to eventually go to bed :P
I love putting Briala & Celene in charge together equally. I know I maybe shouldn't, Celene can be hella trash, but I just love a power lesbian couple, and I love reconciliation, can't help it. Also, same for Leliana as Divine, but only if she's softened. Hardened Divine Leliana is a whole can of worms I'd rather never open, eesh!
I remember that Celene had Briala's parents killed and abused and racially fetishised her and I nope tf out of there tbh
Sometimes you crack a few chantry eggs to make a more equal Thedas.
I had forgotten about that, definitely fucking trash, damn. I still remember from The Masked Empire a very clear loving relationship between the two though. Also, gotta be real here, while I do love Briala, girl would probably end up dead in a hot second should she be the only one to rule. Celene + Briala, to me, ensures stability, legitimacy, while also moving elvhen rights forward in a way that will seldom get contested, and that's the bigger picture I wanted to get at all along.
So does the base game.
It's still GOTY.
Everyone focuses on the collect-a-thon sidequests, ignoring the extremely well-characterized cast, well-acted cast, the deep conversations you can have with them, the beautiful world...
Shit I think I need to play DA:I again.
It's still GOTY.
Everyone focuses on the collect-a-thon sidequests, ignoring the extremely well-characterized cast, well-acted cast, the deep conversations you can have with them, the beautiful world...
Shit I think I need to play DA:I again.
I actually played this and finished at launch but never even considered the DLC because I was so turned off with how the game came across as an offline MMO to me. This after having completed origins around 19 different ways from Sunday
Sounds like the DLC fixed that. Should I pick it up then...?!
Sounds like the DLC fixed that. Should I pick it up then...?!
Leliana is totally the best pick for divine, she even come back to life to prove it!
(and no i never killed leliana in my games but its funny how its a possibility in DAO but then they wrote the rest of the story with her in mind and "shit we need something to justify her head attaching back HOLY ASHES there you go bye)
(and no i never killed leliana in my games but its funny how its a possibility in DAO but then they wrote the rest of the story with her in mind and "shit we need something to justify her head attaching back HOLY ASHES there you go bye)
I started replaying this too for tresspasser, but didnt know it was on steam lol. I got it a year go for like 6 bucks goty for origin. I wanted to get DA 2 and just start from scratch from origin to dai. You guys think ots worrh it starting from scratch and doing 2 again?
Same, Briala deserves so much better - and honestly Celene comes across as the worst ruler of the group, she throws away her "morals" (most of the good stuff for the elves seems to come from the efforts of Briala) at the drop of the hat if it threatens her power, and if she actually cared about her people in Orlais and avoiding blood shed she could have come to an allegiance with Gaspard (who ironically had a better claim for the throne then her) but refused because that would have meant suceeding power. Just like it really does not take much convincing for her to massacre the Elves in Halamshiral nor did she seem to hesitate with killing Briala's family and kisses her right after it happens. Celene is the most power hungry of them all but wraps it up as her being better and fairer in her mind. Whereas Briala blackmailing Gaspard seems to get real change for the elves while also not having to deal with someone who manipulated and used her for years.
I dont know if the keep is still active but it would be nice just to have your own tapestry and stuff i guess. Cant see myself ever replaying DA2 though. The game itself replays DA2 over and over and over.
Have you seen the slide for Trespasser if Leliana died in The Temple of Sacred Ashes? Let's say it seems like much more of a Cole situation going on
as i said i never killed leliana so not really. now i have a reason for a replay i guess. maybe i will finally do the total asshole playthrough i always wanted to (and always give up immediately because i cant bring myself to be evil in games and specially not in DA where you can be such a monumental bastard)