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Foffy

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Oct 25, 2017
16,381
That clip doesn't include the worst parts of Maher during that specific interview where Maher tries to downplay the counterculture movement of the 1960s and 1970s. That to me made me see him as an out-of-touch old person.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,093
As much as you want to paint comedians as just entertainers with nothing to add to the conversations, other comedians with shows like Hasan Minhaj and John Oliver are absolutely adding to important conversations.
Put some respect on Samantha B's name
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
So he's left on some issues, and pathetically right wing on others. Got it, I wouldn't call it absurd hyperbole though when he helps the right more often than not by bolstering shitty narratives about leftists.
He's on the left on all issues I can think of ( I may be missing something). the problem w/ him is his position on Islam and the Middle East, but even then he's not ever going to endorse a republican on foreign policy issues. that's just not realistic. he's much better than the average democrat in this country.
 

TaySan

SayTan
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Dec 10, 2018
31,439
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He's a liberal for boomers.
My parents love him because he hates Trump and republicans, but will take any chance to trash millennials
 

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
8,270
Hes just a smug asshole interested in maintaining his "actually I'm the smartest and smarter than you and here's why" dickhead persona.
 

Kitten Mittens

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Dec 11, 2018
2,368
Hes just a smug asshole interested in maintaining his "actually I'm the smartest and smarter than you and here's why" dickhead persona.
And yet in that clip he wasn't the one refusing to have a conversation. The only obvious dickhead in that video was the person opposite him.
 

Slappy White

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Oct 27, 2017
3,205
The most offensive thing I ever hear about Bill is when people say he is a comedian. I've never liked anything about they guy.
 
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MegaMix

MegaMix

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Oct 27, 2017
786
I find it odd that people say the clip makes him seem to the left of center.

He literally complains that Europe is too far left due to "people not working", and "people striking all the time", as well as "there are opportunities in America that aren't in Europe since they are too socialist".
 

TyrantII

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Oct 25, 2017
3,365
Boston
He's always trended Liberal Libertarian with a lot of nonsense and crying victim. He's also very pro zionist / anti-Islam, 911 kinda broke him.
 

Kitten Mittens

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Dec 11, 2018
2,368
I find it odd that people say the clip makes him seem to the left of center.

He literally complains that Europe is too far left due to "people not working", and "people striking all the time", as well as "there are opportunities in America that aren't in Europe since they are too socialist".
Do you consider any democrat who isn't a socialist to actually be a Republican? Because surprise, most democrats aren't like Michael Moore and they're most definitely not Republicans.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
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Dec 24, 2017
17,655
The guy is pretty much your stadard boomer liberal. The only thing he's progressive on is weed. He'll vote D and throw some money around and thinks that purifies him or something.
 

zoltek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Bill Maher is a self-indulgent queef who likes to hear himself talk and will say whatever he thinks will get the most publicity. End stop. Who knows what he actually does or doesn't believe.
 

Lord Fagan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,367
Shock jocks don't adhere to any ideology. They chase ratings and will vomit up whatever nonsense is needed to generate them.

Also, kind of funny hearing Michael Moore imply that Warren is confused about her economic positions, or she doesn't know how to sell her ideas on fixing modern capitalism.

Not like she was a professor specializing in bankruptcy law or anything. Oh, wait...
 

Z-oo31

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Jan 12, 2018
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Maher is not a Republican. He's going to vote for whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee in 2020.

Many people on the left just hate him because he often doesn't pass certain purity tests.
 

bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
30,894
As much as you want to paint comedians as just entertainers with nothing to add to the conversations, other comedians with shows like Hasan Minhaj and John Oliver are absolutely adding to important conversations.
Thats true, but also kind of sad that you have to go to comedy central or netflix to get a decent show educating you on important topics.

The news is so bad in this country.

And while Minhaj and Oliver are amazing they are still trying to get laughs and entertain the audience. We deserve far better news than what we are currently getting. Its no wonder that some people are so misinformed and angry when they get all of their news from CNN or Fox.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
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Dec 24, 2017
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Do you consider any democrat who isn't a socialist to actually be a Republican? Because surprise, most democrats aren't like Michael Moore and they're most definitely not Republicans.
If they aren't progressive they are doing little for the cause. They probably vote for Senate and the Presidency every 4 years and go on about their lives while other people are out their doing actual advocacy work or trying to push forward societal change. Doesn't make them a Repubican, doesn't make them very useful either outside of the few minutes they spend in the voting booth.
Many people on the left just hate him because he often doesn't pass certain purity tests.
Purity, ah yes, like not hating Muslims. Such a high standard for one to pass.
 

Kill3r7

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Oct 25, 2017
24,424
No because if he were then Republicans would be cleaning up come election time for the next couple of decades.
 

Kitten Mittens

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Dec 11, 2018
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Shock jocks don't adhere to any ideology. They chase ratings and will vomit up whatever nonsense is needed to generate them.

Also, kind of funny hearing Michael Moore imply that Warren is confused about her economic positions, or she doesn't know how to sell her ideas on fixing modern capitalism.

Not like she was a professor specializing in bankruptcy law or anything. Oh, wait...
Yeah, the only controversial part of the linked video was yet another man trying to explain to everyone what a woman actually meant. Never mind that she's light years more intelligent and coherent than that idiot.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Germany
Yeah, no one is working in France.

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PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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London
he's just within the spectrum of acceptable, the things he's wrong on won't happen(as much) if he sticks to being a democrat, so i'd rather have people like that on the leftish side than not. i don't think i could put up with much of his nonsense in the real world though.
 
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MegaMix

MegaMix

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do you consider any democrat who isn't a socialist to actually be a Republican? Because surprise, most democrats aren't like Michael Moore and they're most definitely not Republicans.
If you bitch at the current tax system for the rich, are against unions, and accuse "nobody working in Europe becua

No he's not. He's literally saying he sees the good things that socialism brings and that a "capitalism+" may be the way to go. Name one conservative that mirrors that. Not some random fuck from twitter, someone in office. I'm waiting.
He goes on a tangent of how Europe is riddled with dollers and bullying unions.
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
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Shock jocks don't adhere to any ideology. They chase ratings and will vomit up whatever nonsense is needed to generate them.

Also, kind of funny hearing Michael Moore imply that Warren is confused about her economic positions, or she doesn't know how to sell her ideas on fixing modern capitalism.

Not like she was a professor specializing in bankruptcy law or anything. Oh, wait...


Bill Maher has been saying the same shit for years. Even from the brief snippets of his old show on ABC he doesn't look like someone who changes his tune like you change your underwear.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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He's a Republican because he doesn't want full on Socialism?

There's a wide range of political beliefs between those two. He's left of Republican and right of Socialist. Like many (most?) Democrats.
 

Inuhanyou

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Oct 25, 2017
14,214
New Jersey
It came rapidly after 2016. He supported Bernie then but then switched and became a full on neoliberal.

Its funny how you call Bill Maher a republican but he's just echoing the talking points of the neoliberal democratic establishment like Pelosi. His pick for dem to beat trump is fucking klobuchar and biden ticket
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You don't know shit if you think Maher is a conservative/Republican. Do we really have to walk through a bullet point list of policies to determine this?

He's spewing conservative talking points in that clip.
I feel like I'm living in a different reality when our interpretations of a short relatively straight forward clip can be so different. You either didn't watch it or you don't know what the conservative party's talking points even are. Apparently even binary generalizations have become too complicated and nuanced for some.
 
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He is a comedian and an entertainer.

You should only watch his show for entertainment and not to actually learn anything.

Do you really care what Kevin Hart thinks about taxation or global warming?
This is basically the same as the "its just jokes, y'all" defense deployed for the alt right. He has a show about politics and people who watch him do take him seriously at some point.
 

bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is basically the same as the "its just jokes, y'all" defense deployed for the alt right. He has a show about politics and people who watch him do take him seriously at some point.
I am not saying he is right I am saying he is crap and not to pay attention to him. I stopped watching Maher years ago.

That is definitely not what the alt right is saying.

Most of these assholes just want a reaction. What they are most afraid of is being ignored or becoming irrelevant.

You are going to hurt Maher way more by not watching his show instead of giving him even more attention via a protest. At least IMO. And if I am wrong then at least your mind is no being polluted by his nonsense.