Yep, alot of it covered by the amazing lore/time-line Guerilla Games hosted on the official Killzone website for a long time :(
absolutely annoyed at how good their lore was, and it didnt translate at all into their games.
right? reading this thread would make you think this is one of the coolest universes in the medium but the games don't convey any of this stuff lol
To be fair, they didn't straight up intend to nuke the planet. They just wanted to disable what was going to be a huge space nazi fleet attack. The KZ franchise has always been weird in the sense that it tries to make the audience somewhat sympathetic towards the space nazis. But at the same time, they're space nazis who commit way more war crimes than the Vetkans. So fuck em. It's borderline tone deaf to go "you were the bad guys all along" when it's juxtaposed against this imagery:
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This game goes harder than ever with the "actually the Helghast have some good points" bit but simultaneously starts out with us giving part of the planet to them, and then they execute anyone who hasn't moved out yet. The writers of Killzone did not have the chops to make this premise work. Especially given that the extensive background lore is entirely absent from the games.
We don't give them the chance to. They were literally on their way to nuking the Vetkan planet after violating several war laws. Again, seperate the lore from the actual content of the titles. The games do NOTHING to make us think "hey, nazi imagery and war atrocities aside, these guys have some valid points and/or justified motivations." It's hard to think about lore when your cutscenes are presented like this and the enemy force is mustache twirlingly evil:
Nope, closest they got was Killzone Mercenary
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A Black Ops 2 style campaign where you make decisions, or just any sort of gameplay that involves something other than shooting and/or being made to loath Helghans, would've probably done wonders.Nope, closest they got was Killzone Mercenary
Also, Killzone Mercenary has one of the most badass levels (and saddest) in the franchise:
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Hmm interesting, what do you think was their goal initially, to go "both sides are bad" or Nazis are not that bad?To be fair, they didn't straight up intend to nuke the planet. They just wanted to disable what was going to be a huge space nazi fleet attack. The KZ franchise has always been weird in the sense that it tries to make the audience somewhat sympathetic towards the space nazis. But at the same time, they're space nazis who commit way more war crimes than the Vetkans. So fuck em. It's borderline tone deaf to go "you were the bad guys all along" when it's juxtaposed against this imagery:
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This game goes harder than ever with the "actually the Helghast have some good points" bit but simultaneously starts out with us giving part of the planet to them, and then they execute anyone who hasn't moved out yet. The writers of Killzone did not have the chops to make this premise work. Especially given that the extensive background lore is entirely absent from the games.
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I, based on the content of the games themselves, cannot glean an intention. Because based on the execution, if we're meant to sympathize in anyway with the Helghast, the end result is incredibly jarring and for all intents and purposes, a failure. Especially by the time we got to KZ: Shadowfall which literally starts with you playing as a child and you nearly got executed by the Helghast, this is day one of the Helghast moving to this planet.
Zeke is honestly worse to me because he's in your face all the time. You only get so much Rico.
Never played that one, at least in part because of how much Zeke annoyed me in 1.
This was the best part of the narrative, watching this Stalin-era-esque jockeying for powerLet us not forget the fucking GOAT casting of Ray Winstone and Malcolm McDowell in KZ3
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Eh, let's not handwave stuff on a technicality. I'm sure they mean actions that are morally war crimes, and are not referring to whatever was narrowly considered as such at Nuremburg.
Rico reminds me of those war crime commiting marines Trump pardoned a few months back. They had like 10+ marines on the record being like "yeah this dude was an insane murderous piece of shit who we had to constantly get in the way of to prevent him from murdering random civilians."
