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Snoopy account tweets unfortunate tweet
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Any time I hear "you're one of the good ones" I usually imagine Ren saying it to Stimpy in OG Ren and Stimpy, where I think he said it more than once, so it stuck in my mind in my youth. Though unsurprisingly I have never heard it used again aside from the more well known backhanded way.
But saying that in mixed racial company, is 100% not okay. As such, it's one of those phrases that it's best not to get in the habit of saying at all.
Heck, even in Charlie Brown, the well known phrase is when Lunus or someone else says, "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown." I could even dare to presume Charles Schultz never used the "good ones" line.
But saying that in mixed racial company, is 100% not okay. As such, it's one of those phrases that it's best not to get in the habit of saying at all.
Heck, even in Charlie Brown, the well known phrase is when Lunus or someone else says, "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown." I could even dare to presume Charles Schultz never used the "good ones" line.
Yeah I've really muddled up my point here because I am arguing we should never use it again regardless of context
Yuuuup.
Hey mods, Even though I didn't have privileges to post in the black Era community thread I did read all of it. This thread is full of examples of why so many from that community don't feel comfortable posting here. Unreal. Black Era you will always have my support for zero tolerance of " well let's not be too hasty" types of posts in topics such as this. It is such bs.
Yo guys so I been sick for a week right? Last night was rouuugh, barely any sleep and have Dad duties etc. Anyways I was sitting here trippin out what is this such a big deal. Snoop making a statement. Yes, Snoop as in snoop dogg so I was like wtf is the big deal. Then I realize where it was really from after like 10 min and yeah ok...lol
This thread right now is literally why BCT and black ppl have gripes on this forum, btw.
It's a lot of people out here mysteriously interested subatomically by theoretical intentions of a tweet (which the company deleted *specifically* because they themselves know how bad it looks).
It's a lot of people out here mysteriously interested subatomically by theoretical intentions of a tweet (which the company deleted *specifically* because they themselves know how bad it looks).
OK, I see. We disagree about that, which is fine. I do think that things can become genuinely divorced of context or can be potentially appropriate outside of a more negative context.
statement by the snoopy twitter
We're on it. If there's anything you feel should be looked at please let us know via the report button.
huh.. never thought about it this way.One of the good ones
"One of the good ones" is a phrase that encapsulates the idea of comparing an individual favorably to the other people in their demographic, with said demographic being based on gender, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, transgender status, religion etc. Depending on whether this phrase (or a...rationalwiki.org
Unless you mean like "How could they be so dumb to post this on twitter. I don't get it." Which I 100% agree with.
Always assumed the good guys to be general population not related to a race or group.
( Not a native speaker).
This isn't an American or English speaking thing, I'd bet most if not all languages have their own version of it.
There's certainly a similar saying in Swedish, used in the same way.
HIRE.
MORE.
BLACK PEOPLE.
Guaranteed not a single soul of color existed anywhere NEAR the approval ranks for this shit.
MORE.
BLACK PEOPLE.
Guaranteed not a single soul of color existed anywhere NEAR the approval ranks for this shit.
Last year it was Liam Neeson. This year it's Charlie Brown. Our White childhood heroes are disappointing us :-(
Shout out to all the Franklins out there. Every time I see a grain of pepper in a sea of salt my heart aches. How many times has he heard he's one of the good ones?
In Living Color had a reoccurring segment called the Brothers Brothers as an example of the "Good Ones".
I would take the bet that whomever sends tweets through that account didn't have to run it by anyone let alone anyone black.
I'm glad they apologi----wait.....nope. Not even a "sorry." It's on us for misinterpretting. Fuck me, what a terrible response.
User banned (1 month): dismissing concerns around racism
Yeah the only place I've seen anyone make a big deal out of that post was this thread. I didn't think it was intentional but anyway...
I'm not sure the appropriate response to this post outside of suggesting you read the thread and digest a bit of what you've read before posting.
Stuff like this is not OK. First of all clearly it wasn't only this thread if they took it down and even if it was only this thread you have plenty of black members telling you how that tweet is not OK and that should really be enough for you to just listen instead of dropping in with this hand waving nonsense. Like clockwork in any thread relating to the Black community
Lol "misinterpreted." Why is it that whenever someone gets caught with their pants down, they were "misinterpreted?" No, sir, YOU pulled your pants down. It's not somehow everyone else's fault for being upset that you just pulled your own pants down in front of everyone. They didn't take that the wrong way. Just own it and apologize.
This. The simple fact is that you have to hop through several loops of logic to come to the conclusion that no one involved knew of this or noticed it. It takes much more effort to try and find an angle to give the benefit of the doubt than to just see it for what it is. But people are always there to find the benefit of the doubt with racism... it's like no one wants to acknowledge that people can just be racist on purpose or otherwise. The non-apology from the twitter account doesn't help.This is the first page of Google after searching that phrase:
It is such a well known """"""well-meaning"""""" racist statement that I find it entirely disingenuous to even begin to pretend that anyone who might be involved with social media - in particular social media! - at all would have no idea of the deep history of statements like this. It's not new. It's not uncommon. It's very well known.
Thank you. I think sometimes white people get way too defensive about anything racist. Like being called racist is the greatest condemnation of their character to them and so even if you imply or try to softly explain that something they said or their friends and family have said is racist, they get super defensive about it and try to explain it away. I think some people need to chill. I genuinely think to some white people you're either not racist or you're literally Hitler. This stuff has nuance and minorities have been explaining it forever but when you're too busy being defensive, you don't listen to them.
Ironically, the thread would not be as long as it is if not for people going making posts exactly like this. No one is calling for Peanuts' head.
So if no one calls it out it doesn't exist? Nah it's offensive, bottom line and just because it flew under your radar doesn't make it any less so.
I posted this on my Facebook page earlier today. I have spent most of my day explaining to clueless people what "dog whistle" racism is. It's exhausting. I will say, they legitimately did not know...hopefully, they learned something (probably not).
Oh man lol.
Either the person posted that super quick with no attention or he/she thought they were cute.
Either way, they probably shouldn't be doing social media for a major brand.
Either the person posted that super quick with no attention or he/she thought they were cute.
Either way, they probably shouldn't be doing social media for a major brand.
...there was a huge outcry on Twitter, where it was posted, which is what led to them taking it down in the first place.
What other places would you expect something like this gain traction? It did numbers on twitter until they deleted it. It was only up for 30 min.
lol yes we must've misinterpreted it because it is certainly possible that saying "you're one of the good ones" from a white person to a black person does not imply that black people are generally bad according to the white character, even though that's literally what it says. Our bad, Charlie Brown.
Making posts like this without a hint of self-reflection is not a good look.
Not the first time franklin was treated this way
Wow. Even the dog is white.
It doesn't matter if it's intentional.
It doesn't matter if, somehow, the person doesn't know the vast history of a phrase like this.
It doesn't matter if they meant well.
It doesn't matter if it was supposed to be charming.
It doesn't matter if YOU didn't know what it meant somehow.
Y'all know you... don't have to talk, right? Like you can... just read and reflect?
That's... astonishing bad.
Is there an argument to be made that such phrases could be used innocently? Sure - but I think it's been made clear repeatedly that this is neither the time nor the place. It's easy if you're privileged to 'just want to discuss' but that ignores the constant and pervasive harm of such phrases.
Is there an argument to be made that such phrases could be used innocently? Sure - but I think it's been made clear repeatedly that this is neither the time nor the place. It's easy if you're privileged to 'just want to discuss' but that ignores the constant and pervasive harm of such phrases.
How is it that this has already been handled in the thread repeatedly, this and all the other "maybe it wasn't" and "but what if" variations and people are still showing up like PERHAPS IT WAS INNOCENT AND NOT INTENTIONALLY RACIST
edit: misread, see #307
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