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SNES Switch Online now available!

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neon_dream said:
Great question. I've never played Mario Maker so I did a google image search:

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Top is SMW in pixel-perfect vs 4:3
Bottom is Mario Maker

Looks like Mario Maker uses the original internal art in a pixel-perfect (perfectly square pixel) format.

I only have a few minutes this morning. Gotta get to work. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Wow, that's good to know. I had no idea, really thought it'd be 4:3 and have been playing the games like that forever. Gonna give the pixel perfect look a try then.
 
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I was really surprised how fast Stunt Race FX played. I remember renting it for a week and vividly remembered the visuals and stuff, but I remembered it as being a very low-framerate game that sorta chugged with the Mode 7 or whatever. But I play it now and feel like I'm quickly sliding around the curves, back and forth across the track and stuff. Game feels much looser and wild than I remember it.
 
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Jims said:
I was really surprised how fast Stunt Race FX played. I remember renting it for a week and vividly remembered the visuals and stuff, but I remembered it as being a very low-framerate game that sorta chugged with the Mode 7 or whatever. But I play it now and feel like I'm quickly sliding around the curves, back and forth across the track and stuff. Game feels much looser and wild than I remember it.
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....you must be playing a different game than me.
It runs like dog crap in molasses
 
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BearPawB said:
....you must be playing a different game than me.
It runs like dog crap in molasses
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It does! And that's part of the charm. Back then it was the most amazing 3D graphics you could hope to get at home. Back then its mere existence was mindblowing! I'll give you that the controls are a little bit rough around the edges, but it's totally playable if you set your mind at it!
 
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BearPawB said:
....you must be playing a different game than me.
It runs like dog crap in molasses
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Nah, I mean more in the controls and the pace of the game. Completely agree about the frame rate and how it runs, my memory was correct there. Just wasn't expecting so many wild corrections and swerving and stuff with my steering. The combination of the way it runs and the loose controls makes me really stay on my toes when playing it.
 
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I just started Super Mario World, A Link to The Past, and Super Metroid. I've never actually played ALTTP before, so this will be my first time!
 
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The rewind feature makes grinding in Breath of Fire a little more tolerable.


Try it out once you reach the town of Bleak.
 
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I just wanted to state again how ridiculously happy the fact that they finally added an option to get the UI text garbage off the screen makes me. :D

It only took a year of begging/bitching!
 
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AtomicShroom said:
It does! And that's part of the charm. Back then it was the most amazing 3D graphics you could hope to get at home. Back then its mere existence was mindblowing! I'll give you that the controls are a little bit rough around the edges, but it's totally playable if you set your mind at it!
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Mh. By 1994 Descent would be out for example, which was smooth and fast full 3D. The Super FX stuff was impressive for being able to wrestle that stuff out of the ol' SNES at all, but it really was crowbarring it. It's neat to look back at this stuff though. I have a big soft spot for "before it was ready" 3D.

That's honestly the coolest thing about this. In a VC like model, nobody would buy a game like this, including me. I love that they are putting weirder stuff on this.
 
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When launching the app, I thought it would be a good opportunity to finally finish demon's crest. But here I am, playing Alttp and Super Metroid for the twentieth time.
 
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Yoshis Island has some weird frameyness when you eat power ups like bubbles or watermelons. Super weird for a version running on extremely capable hardware.
 
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Played F Zero last night. I never played it on the SNES but played the F Zero games on the GBA. I can't believe how well the game holds up. The music is on point, the courses are challenging, the ships are chunky and cool. Definitely going to keep playing it.

In comparison, I tried Mario Kart and found it to play really slowly and just not fun.
 

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Lee Morris said:
In comparison, I tried Mario Kart and found it to play really slowly and just not fun.
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If F-Zero was based on breakneck speed, SMK was based on drifting.
SMK is slower than F-Zero (duh) however jeep in mind that the speed improve once you get to the 100 and 150cc classes.
Both are classic and hold up great.
 
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Finished Joe and Mac 2, it's a very basic game but it's fun and not too hard, although I used the rewind feature on the boss gauntlet to save some time.

It's funny that the game lets you marry someone but it doesn't really have much of a point...
 
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sosainas said:
So emulation is meh?
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The input latency is ridiculously good, the games included all run fine, and the online works really well

Glio said:
I've been testing some games and in my opinion, not everyone has aged well. Super Mario Kart, Super Tennis, Super Soccer and Puyo Puyo make little sense if you can access more modern games.

Kirby Dream Land 3 partly suffers from the same, I have only played Kirby Planet Robobot and it is hard to go back.
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I think Puyo Puyo makes sense on this service. Tsu still plays pretty much identically to the more recent games, and if being free makes it something that I can see being used as a fallback for friends. Though fumbling through Japanese menus isn't much fun.

Also that was pretty much the consensus of Kirby's Dreamland 3 at the time compared to Super Star. (Sidenote please play Kirby Super Star it is tremendous)
 
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jnWake said:
Finished Joe and Mac 2, it's a very basic game but it's fun and not too hard, although I used the rewind feature on the boss gauntlet to save some time.

It's funny that the game lets you marry someone but it doesn't really have much of a point...
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I actually would have preferred the first Joe & Mac game. Always liked it more ^^
 
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Celine said:
If F-Zero was based on breakneck speed, SMK was based on drifting.
SMK is slower than F-Zero (duh) however jeep in mind that the speed improve once you get to the 100 and 150cc classes.
Both are classic and hold up great.
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I didn't say it was slow in comparison. It just felt slow.

I'm glad Mario Kart holds up for you but it doesn't for me.
 
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Playing a LTTP for my pseudo-2nd time - I don't remember most of it past the intro so it is kind of new to me, although bits and pieces come back to me. I don't think I ever finished my initial playthrough, I did a few dungeons post dark world. Also, are there actual hints to some of the super useful items? The witch tells you about the ice rod, but the flippers are an even more important item that I wouldn't have known about without glancing at a walkthrough. Also, there was no indication where to start for Death Mountain - I guess you are just supposed to go everywhere and test since the world isn't that big?
 

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Conrad Link said:
I just wanted to state again how ridiculously happy the fact that they finally added an option to get the UI text garbage off the screen makes me. :D

It only took a year of begging/bitching!
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I wonder how long it'll take them to add an option to remove the user/profile icon and also enable us to choose pure black borders?
 

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Lee Morris said:
I didn't say it was slow in comparison. It just felt slow.

I'm glad Mario Kart holds up for you but it doesn't for me.
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What I'm saying is that SMK's speed (and technical part of the driving) is heavily reliant on the drifting (and of course the class and character you choose like any other Mario Kart).
It might looks slower than it actually is in the beginning.
I say this for those who are playing SMK for the first time and never seriously delved into the game before.
 
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Why does a game from 1994 that I have already finished many times take me away from Astral Chain?

Also F Zero is still my favorite racing game lol
 
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You really do pick up pace with Super Metroid when you replay it. I got to Kraid really quickly.
 
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I can't even imagine what people who didn't have SNES must feel like - we're talking about some amazing games right there, the inspiration of thousands of today's games.

I'm starting A Ling to the Past in preparation for the remake ^_^
 
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Aurongel said:
Yoshis Island has some weird frameyness when you eat power ups like bubbles or watermelons. Super weird for a version running on extremely capable hardware.
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This is because most emulators emulate the same CPU/GPU (including clock speeds) that the original hardware had to ensure accuracy. This is why you still see lag/slowdown in old games despite the emulators running on exponentially better hardware.
 
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After checking out Kirby Super Star briefly, it is true DreamLand 3 feels archaic in comparison. Like Kirby changing appearance depending on your power, the different moves possible, the way more dynamic gameplay, it feels like the foundation of modern Kirby.

DL3 has all the companions, it offers quite a lot of possibilities, it looks charming, I find it quite fun but it also feels so different from what Kirby is nowadays. DL3 feels like some sort of retro throwback to the gameboy games (calling it DreamLand feels adequate). Even Kirby adventure on NES feels more in line with SS and modern Kirby. I suppose it has to do with Sakurai directing them.

It is still weird since DL3 came out after SS. Maybe they were targeting an even younger audience ? It was SNES final year so they maybe thought snes was mostly an entry point for very young kids ? Kirby 64 also rather feels like a DreamLand game rather than modern Kirby. Interestingly enough, I just found out Shinichi Shimomura directed both (and DL2) and seems to be a complete mystery.

I hope SS will come quickly on switch, I can't wait to play it.
 
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Manwell said:
This is because most emulators emulate the same CPU/GPU (including clock speeds) that the original hardware had to ensure accuracy. This is why you still see lag/slowdown in old games despite the emulators running on exponentially better hardware.
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So these particular things lagged in the original game? Never played the original so I have no idea.
 
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Save states really make all the difference. It sure the worm boss in LttP with the tail and falling out of the arena. I think I'm gonna finally beat LttP this time, finished the dark palace.
 
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Oh dang. I didn't know you can only play online against friends.

I don't have enough of those or time to coordinate matches.
 

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robotrock said:
Wow, that's good to know. I had no idea, really thought it'd be 4:3 and have been playing the games like that forever. Gonna give the pixel perfect look a try then.
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But SMW uses different physics. My impression is that the physics is designed for 4:3, I can't play in pixel perfect mode, feels wrong.
 
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4:3 is a complete no-go because of how the ratio scales to 720p on the Switch. Way too much of the screen real estate goes unused as a result.
 
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Mickagau said:
After checking out Kirby Super Star briefly, it is true DreamLand 3 feels archaic in comparison. Like Kirby changing appearance depending on your power, the different moves possible, the way more dynamic gameplay, it feels like the foundation of modern Kirby.

DL3 has all the companions, it offers quite a lot of possibilities, it looks charming, I find it quite fun but it also feels so different from what Kirby is nowadays. DL3 feels like some sort of retro throwback to the gameboy games (calling it DreamLand feels adequate). Even Kirby adventure on NES feels more in line with SS and modern Kirby. I suppose it has to do with Sakurai directing them.

It is still weird since DL3 came out after SS. Maybe they were targeting an even younger audience ? It was SNES final year so they maybe thought snes was mostly an entry point for very young kids ? Kirby 64 also rather feels like a DreamLand game rather than modern Kirby. Interestingly enough, I just found out Shinichi Shimomura directed both (and DL2) and seems to be a complete mystery.

I hope SS will come quickly on switch, I can't wait to play it.
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You can say the Kirby series branched into two different sub-series after Kirby's Adventures. Super Star ignored everything Dream Land 2 introduced and, on the other hand as you said, DreamLand 3 and 64 do the same with Super Star. Not only the gameplay is different, but the characters too: e.g. Meta Knight is nowhere to be seen in the DL games.

Nowadays the Kirby formula builds on Super Star and DL2-3-64 are the outliers. You should try to play them for what they are - very slow platforms with some puzzles here and there and a very cute artstyle - without comparing them to modern Kirby, even though they have the same main character.
 
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