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gingerbeardman · May 17, 2018

Really odd, I left the SNESC on the menu (not inside any folders) and after a minute or so it starts scrolling right super fast through all the games. I have to unplug the controller to stop it. Surely that's not normal?

"My Game Play Demo" and "Classic Demo" and "Screen Burn-In Reduction" are all off.

Any ideas?

PyroPaperPlanes · May 17, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
The main changes are to reduce flashing and remove any graphical symbols that are not acceptable today compared to the early 1990s. Rather then ripping the rims of the SNESC, some of us override the default games with patched versions that improve QOL/controls/fix bugs etc.

Just choose "reset/restore original games" in hakchi2CE. sorry can't remember the exact wording.

Perfect! Thanks for responding. :)

gingerbeardman said:
Really odd, I left the SNESC on the menu (not inside any folders) and after a minute or so it starts scrolling right super fast through all the games. I have to unplug the controller to stop it. Surely that's not normal?

"My Game Play Demo" and "Classic Demo" and "Screen Burn-In Reduction" are all off.

Any ideas?

Do you use a stock controller?

ren-shin · May 17, 2018

Is there a way to convert a retroarch snes save file to work on canoe?

I played half of Dragon Quest 3 and would like to finish it on the snes classic if possible.

gingerbeardman · May 17, 2018

PyroPaperPlanes said:
Do you use a stock controller?

Yes, in this instance.

Maybe there's a problem with one of the d-pad contacts?

gingerbeardman · May 17, 2018

ren-shin said:
Is there a way to convert a retroarch snes save file to work on canoe?

I played half of Dragon Quest 3 and would like to finish it on the snes classic if possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/761m8j/srm_to_canoecloverclvs_converter/

Or: export a save from SNESC, unpack it as .tar.gz archive, replace save file, repack it, and import back onto SNESC.

Or: FTP your save onto the SNESC

ren-shin · May 17, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/761m8j/srm_to_canoecloverclvs_converter/

Or: export a save from SNESC, unpack it as .tar.gz archive, replace save file, repack it, and import back onto SNESC.

Or: FTP your save onto the SNESC

Thank you! I will try it.

BlockABoots · May 17, 2018

How do i remove hakchi from the snes mini completely?

ReyVGM · May 17, 2018

demi said:
did u finally get a new TV?

Nope. The request is from a tester in sluffys thread.

DanteMenethil · May 17, 2018

demi said:
All the info is on RHDN bud.

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1323/

Did all that, verified I had the good raw files with a crc checker, applied the translation patch via lunar ips then the .bps patch with flips.exe. The final rom runs fine on higan but on canoe I get a blackscreen then a C8 error after a couple minutes. Do I need to mess with headers (I assume no since my base file had the right crc32 checksum), or use a patch from sfrom_tool?

Bosco82 · May 17, 2018

You either need to run it with either Preset 123F (3F12 Hakchi) or Preset 0000 with Extra Byte 03

DanteMenethil · May 17, 2018

Bosco82 said:
You either need to run it with either Preset 123F (3F12 Hakchi) or Preset 0000 with Extra Byte 03

Preset 0000 Extra Byte 03 worked! Thank you very much!

demi · May 17, 2018

So is DQ3 good good or are we just going with the notion that something will break down the road.

truly101 · May 17, 2018

I followed the RHDN SNes thread and found that there was a beta fix for Tales of Phantasia. I know its not complete but I had to try it out and sure enough it boots up and goes through the opening cinematic. Its a little stuttery but not bad.

demi · May 17, 2018

Yes, sluffy did amazing work getting DQ3 and Phantasia to work. They shouldnt at all.

AtomicShroom · May 17, 2018

demi said:
Yes, sluffy did amazing work getting DQ3 and Phantasia to work. They shouldnt at all.

Wait WHAT!? Phantasia works!?! Since when!? :o

truly101 · May 17, 2018

demi said:
Yes, sluffy did amazing work getting DQ3 and Phantasia to work. They shouldnt at all.

Other than upgrading the TOP patch to final, whenever that happens, I think I'm pretty much done hacking the SNES mini. I got a couple of games that don't have translations so I may add them if that ever happens, but I'm at 144 games which is pretty close to the end and honestly more than I may ever play.

NetMapel · May 17, 2018

Wait, Tales of Phantasia is now getting worked on for Canoe emulation? Hurray!!!

Will Star Ocean's English translation ever be fully finished...? Dare I ask :P

demi · May 17, 2018

It has been...

Kamenjojo · May 17, 2018

Hey so I haven't touched Hakchi since October (still have hakchif) and do I need to install a new driver to get the latest version of hakchi to work? It keeps getting stuck when it attempts to restart the snes classic after trying to upload the new kernal.

Also in the device manager it is only coming up as "classic" and then becomes a samsung USB device which is super strange. Any help with this would be greatly appreciate.

EDIT: Also how do you get the sailor moon fighting game to work on this, everytime I put it in hakchi it doesn't work?

BlockABoots · May 18, 2018

So is the built in emulator better than using RetroArch?. Also how do you install RetroArch?

AtomicShroom · May 18, 2018

BlockABoots said:
So is the built in emulator better than using RetroArch?. Also how do you install RetroArch?

It has much better control responsiveness (less input lag), so it's much better for all the games it supports. However if you're looking to run some of the games that it can't run properly (or at all), then you'll have to go with RetroArch.

gingerbeardman · May 19, 2018

BlockABoots said:
How do i remove hakchi from the snes mini completely?

Uninstall menu item in Hakchi2. You can then reflash the original kernel but that's only required with very old versions of hakchi2.

BlockABoots said:
So is the built in emulator better than using RetroArch?

Better is subjective. But it is definitely competitive.

Canoe gives you a mostly hassle free experience. On the other hand it doesn't work with all games, though that list gets shorter every day thanks to sluffy's efforts.

RetroArch works for all games, but it can be quite complicated to use. Getting rid of input lag currently requires additional configuration effort. And of course it supports dozens of platforms not just SNES.

BlockABoots said:
Also how do you install RetroArch?

Easiest way is to use the hmod store in Hakchi2CE 1.2.x

ThorHammerstein · May 19, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
Easiest way is to use the hmod store in Hakchi2CE 1.2.x

Does it give you various options for SNES emulators? IIRC, someone said there's only one version of SNES9x that works for TengaiMakyoZero.

Weary Bones · May 19, 2018

I know this a little off topic but I hope we get a community like this when the Genesis mini comes out because I know it's gonna need it

More on topic, is Panel De Pon working now? I haven't updated since the first stable release of hakchi

Robin64 · May 19, 2018

Capuchino said:
More on topic, is Panel De Pon working now? I haven't updated since the first stable release of hakchi

Panel de Pon is fine. Didn't even know there was an issue, had it on mine for as long as I can remember.

ThorHammerstein said:
Does it give you various options for SNES emulators? IIRC, someone said there's only one version of SNES9x that works for TengaiMakyoZero.

snes9x_10_25_17. And even then, it doesn't do the whole real-time thing, because the SNES Mini has no clock.

WarpSpeedMolasses · May 19, 2018

Total newbie to the scene here. Got my SNES mini and looking to customize it. Super surprised to see ppl are running PS1 games on it. Do they run well and competently? Anything I should know before trying this out? Reading up on thr process online but still a bit worried about accidentally bricking it.

RedMercury · May 19, 2018

MarcioAP1 said:
2) I read that there's a limit of 63 games to avoid errors when shutting down. When I first modded my SNES Classic, I had 63 games on it and everything worked fine. Then I decided to put more games on it and now I use two "pages" of games. I have around 50 games on each page. Everything is fine but Hakchi always warns me that it's not recommended to put so many games per page. Why is that? What's the limit of games when using folders or pages? Why is it different?

I would like to see this answered too, especially the bolded

Also if I put retroarch on it does it open as a program or like a game would instead of taking up the whole system? I like the default layout and would like to keep that for SNES games and not have to replace it with retroarch

Finally if I do put retroarch on it do NeoGeo games run well?

gingerbeardman · May 19, 2018

ThorHammerstein said:
Does it give you various options for SNES emulators? IIRC, someone said there's only one version of SNES9x that works for TengaiMakyoZero.

At least 4 versions of SNES9x, and others.

Capuchino said:
I know this a little off topic but I hope we get a community like this when the Genesis mini comes out because I know it's gonna need it

It would be surprising if AtGames/Sega put together a good emulator given they've tried many times to date and failed. The Nintendo emulator has been improved over many years of Wii/DS Virtual Console.

WarpSpeedMolasses said:
Super surprised to see ppl are running PS1 games on it. Do they run well and competently? Anything I should know before trying this out? Reading up on thr process online but still a bit worried about accidentally bricking it.

Basically impossible to brick the SNESC. PS1 games vary depending on their complexity. Earlier and less demanding titles run better. I play a card game, plays perfectly. The first Ridge Racer runs well, the later ones less so. Tue major barrier is that unless your game is super small, you either have to spend time ripping out FMVs or double down and setup USB storage.

gingerbeardman · May 19, 2018

RedMercury said:
I would like to see this answered too, especially the bolded

I don't think there's a limit. I regularly have over 200 games on mine, depending on what platform I'm playing. As long you're sensible with folders you'll be fine.

RedMercury said:
Also if I put retroarch on it does it open as a program or like a game would instead of taking up the whole system? I like the default layout and would like to keep that for SNES games and not have to replace it with retroarch

It doesn't change the Main Menu. You control what games to run using a chosen RetroArch core.

RedMercury said:
Finally if I do put retroarch on it do NeoGeo games run well?

yes. https://youtu.be/dpKO8oFBPEM

RedMercury · May 19, 2018

Thanks @gingerbeardman !

gingerbeardman · May 19, 2018

RedMercury said:
Thanks Gingerbread Man !

Almost but not quite!

RedMercury · May 19, 2018

Ha sorry about that!

So do I need Hakchi2 CE to load cores or can I just use hakchi 2-1 which I've been using? I have the genesis core in the user mods folder but the games won't work.

gingerbeardman · May 20, 2018

You're better off with CE.

The process:
- add RetroArch hmod
- add core(s) hmod
- set command line for games

CE makes these steps largely automatic.

With cluster 2.x you'll have to do it manually

ReyVGM · May 20, 2018

RedMercury said:
I would like to see this answered too, especially the bolded

Having over 60 games per page risks you having crashes and C8 errors. The recommended amount to not have any errors is 45 games per page. If you don't want the icons on the bottom to go off screen, then you have to limit yourself to 30 games per page.

Vault · May 20, 2018

~~how do i get DQ 3 to work ?~~

Never mind fixed the issue i had.

Pretty great how many games are running in Canoe

gingerbeardman · May 20, 2018

Vault said:
Pretty great how many games are running in Canoe

it's turned out rather well, hasn't it?

demi · May 20, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
it's turned out rather well, hasn't it?

Apparently sluffy got a c&d? That wraps that up, hes definitely not coming back.

Robin64 · May 20, 2018

Which is weird, he's doing nothing that everyone else on that site isn't already do: rom hacking.

BlockABoots · May 20, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
You're better off with CE.

The process:
- add RetroArch hmod
- add core(s) hmod
- set command line for games

CE makes these steps largely automatic.

With cluster 2.x you'll have to do it manually

Excuse my ignorance but what is Hakchi2 CE?

Robin64 · May 20, 2018

BlockABoots said:
Excuse my ignorance but what is Hakchi2 CE?

A version of hakchi2 that continued to get updates after Cluster got bored.

https://github.com/TeamShinkansen/hakchi2/releases/

BlockABoots · May 20, 2018

Robin64 said:
A version of hakchi2 that continued to get updates after Cluster got bored.

https://github.com/TeamShinkansen/hakchi2/releases/

and that has RetroArch built in?

Robin64 · May 20, 2018

BlockABoots said:
and that has RetroArch built in?

It has a built-in "Mod Store" that makes it easy to browse mods, including RetroArch cores, and install/setup with one click.

JershJopstin · May 20, 2018

Robin64 said:
Which is weird, he's doing nothing that everyone else on that site isn't already do: rom hacking.

His wording makes it weirder. I don't know what he means by 'trusted the wrong person somewhere'; that doesn't really sound like a generic C&D from Nintendo, but whatever.

At the same time, I could see how Nintendo would be more miffed about his rom hacking than the usual stuff, since it kinda lowers the appeal of potential future SNES classics with different libraries. Not that I really expect that to happen.

truly101 · May 20, 2018

demi said:
Apparently sluffy got a c&d? That wraps that up, hes definitely not coming back.

From Nintendo? On what grounds I wonder. Altering code for an IP?

ThorHammerstein · May 20, 2018

truly101 said:
From Nintendo? On what grounds I wonder. Altering code for an IP?

Perhaps cuz it's for their physically sold product rather than a stand alone emulator?

AtomicShroom · May 20, 2018

It's so hard to keep track of all of this. So does Tales of Phantasia work now? I saw someone in the romhacking thread saying there's still something wrong with it (namco screen). What's going on?

gingerbeardman · May 20, 2018

demi said:
Apparently sluffy got a c&d? That wraps that up, hes definitely not coming back.

FFS.

ThorHammerstein said:
Perhaps cuz it's for their physically sold product rather than a stand alone emulator?

but sluffy only makes patches that benefit multiple emulators, including Canoe. As well as, most often, snes9x 1.5.1

Canoe is just a black box that happens to be good at giving us clues about where games are being a little bit naughty. Sluffy just brings them into line.

gingerbeardman · May 20, 2018

AtomicShroom said:
It's so hard to keep track of all of this. So does Tales of Phantasia work now?

Check the spreadsheets in the RHDN thread first post.

demi · May 20, 2018

AtomicShroom said:
It's so hard to keep track of all of this. So does Tales of Phantasia work now? I saw someone in the romhacking thread saying there's still something wrong with it (namco screen). What's going on?

You're gonna have to deal with it or install RetroArch. Sorry bud. People who expected Canoe to output Higan level accuracy needed to stop 6 months ago.

RedMercury · May 20, 2018

gingerbeardman said:
You're better off with CE.

The process:
- add RetroArch hmod
- add core(s) hmod
- set command line for games

CE makes these steps largely automatic.

With cluster 2.x you'll have to do it manually

Will I have to re-add everything switching from Hakchi 2-1, will I lose saves?

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