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SNES Mini Classic Hacking | More games, more borders, more gooder.
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In the first clip it's very audible when you open the menu in the forest near the end. The pitch bends quite a lot.
In the second clip it happens in one of the houses, and again in the forest.
It's the exact same thing that happens in Super Mario RPG as well.
There's also quite an abundance of tiny pops/skips here and there. Hard to say if this is the result of your capture or YouTube or my PC though. Could be my PC not keeping up with the 60fps video.
I know complaining about this will probably sound like nitpicking to many of you, but to anyone with musical ears, it's like someone grating against a chalkboard every time it happens. :(
If someone could just fix the damn input lag, I'd switch to Retroarch and never look back. Canoe's shortcomings are starting to be annoying.
I'm backing the side of Canoe just has issues with some audio. It does the same thing on some instruments. You either get a grating BZZZT (Choujikuu Yousai Macross - Scrambled Valkyrie) or a noticable pop on some bass instruments (Plok, Space Megaforce, etc.).
There might be a preset that helps. I know EF10 does wonders on some games (Evermore, Brainies... etc)
There might be a preset that helps. I know EF10 does wonders on some games (Evermore, Brainies... etc)
What shortcomings exactly? For what it's accomplished, Canoe is actually a really good emulator. It's not Higan level accurate and it never will be. It runs at least 80-90% of your favorite games without issue (maybe 70% if not using patches or presets lul).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhMWhatever, I've fixed it. Now it sounds beautiful!
Good Job, sir!
Robin64
Since you're near a Classic, can you test these patches out? Curious what they actually do.
https://github.com/PeterLemon/SNES/tree/master/Translate
Lot of SNES work here (he seems to work on projects for SD2SNES) - wonder if its worth pinging to possibly help sluffy in some areas.
Since you're near a Classic, can you test these patches out? Curious what they actually do.
https://github.com/PeterLemon/SNES/tree/master/Translate
Lot of SNES work here (he seems to work on projects for SD2SNES) - wonder if its worth pinging to possibly help sluffy in some areas.
Ah right, cool. Yeah, most are just menu translation, but the Ebisumaru puzzler seems to be a full translation as far as I can see. It seems like it would be an excellent game, too, except it's isometric and pressing "up" on the d-pad goes "up-left" rather than "up-right" of most isometric games. Hard to get used to!
Albert Odyssey seems like a full translation too, didn't see any Japanese in my time with it.
Albert Odyssey seems like a full translation too, didn't see any Japanese in my time with it.
First of all, thanks for your efforts Robin. :) Currently visiting my parents so I'm not really able to apply any changes to my SNES Mini. To clarify, I had the official Preset ID applied since I had SFROM Tool installed when I added Chrono Trigger via hackchi.
Anyway, in your both your videos you can hear the pitch issue pretty clearly around 0:43. Doesn't seem to happen if you transition areas, I only hear it when I open a menu screen (sometimes the tiny clip). It is indeed a very minor issue indeed but I really wonder if this was present in the VC version on the Wii. Sorry, I'm just the kind of guy who notices such small quirks rather quickly. Didn't notice any specific differences between your two videos though so PCM audio does not appear to change anything at all.
Yeah, it's there. It's much more noticeable with some tracks compared to others. At the very beginning of the game If you open the world map with select you will hear a noticeable distortion.Like you said it's minor but it would be great if it could be fixed.
Somehow I didn't notice all the replies to my post. Whooops!
Delightful.
Whatever, I've fixed it. Now it sounds beautiful!
Delightful.
No this was definitely not present in the Wii Virtual Console release of Chrono Trigger (or any other game). I have played it to death and this kind of sound warping never occurred. This is something they broke when porting Canoe to the SNES Mini hardware. I'm pretty sure it occurs because Canoe eats too much processing during those transitions and just can't keep up, in the same way that slowdown also occurs in Seiken Densetsu 3, Marvelous, etc.
The 3rd video is a result of a quick test I compiled. During SFROM Tool development I'd generate bad SFROMs without all PCM patching working, and it suggested something to me that I never got around to testing. If PCM audio was just music, or music and sound effects. The 3rd video answers that question in that it shows a separation of music and sfx.
Anyway, the PCM music, if anything, would probably show a difference if the issue was performance. That certainly fits with the issue happening during a menu screen transition. A little to much going on at the same time. The fact that the PCM music doesn't change it just may mean that the PCM audio playback may not be rendered differently then SPC for that game.
Sadly Robins videos had a border being used. Did you try using the solid black border? Or the -no-lowlatency param? Both have shown to have an effect on games with audio related performance issues.
This is great. Thanks DarkAkuma ... could I request a drag and drop feature for ROMs? Perhaps for SFROMs too? It's save time when using the main program.
I tested all recent patches (Pilotwings, Sufami Turbo) and things are a-ok so far. Took a look at Ultimate Fighter again, the black screen still stumps me to give sluffy a starting point.
GideonZhi updated Great Battle 5, which fixed the UI and Logo issues.
For giggles I tested Super Scope games to see what actually loaded. Only a couple gave C8, not that it matters.
There are IPS files included in each folder. I tested them out - they all work. Albert Odyssey literally copies over english letters over the japanese so you get sentences like I FOLLOW YOU, ALBERT
I mean I guess its the closest to an english translation.
The others arent really worth caring about, imo. But I linked a few on the sheet for reference since there isnt any other translation for these games out there.
I mean I guess its the closest to an english translation.
The others arent really worth caring about, imo. But I linked a few on the sheet for reference since there isnt any other translation for these games out there.
Why don't my GBA games launch? Games goes to black screen for a second then back to Classic menu.
I have the VBA module installed.
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Okay, i had Game Boy games working with Gambette, install VBA and neither the Game Boy or GBA game work. Delete Gambette. GBA games still don't work. Delete VBA and reinstall Gambette, Game Boy games still don't work.
I have the VBA module installed.
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Okay, i had Game Boy games working with Gambette, install VBA and neither the Game Boy or GBA game work. Delete Gambette. GBA games still don't work. Delete VBA and reinstall Gambette, Game Boy games still don't work.
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Both are GB emus, you need to specify on the commandline which one you want the games to load with. If you remove Gamebete and only leave VBA, then re-add the games and the commandline will default to that. At least that's how I remember it being like many months ago.
But shouldnt the GB games I added when Gambette was installed launch in Gambette after I uninstalled VBA and reinstalled Gambette?
You can always load any game with Retroarch, press Start+Select to enter the RA menu. I don't know where it is exactly, but you can manually change what core to use to load what type of game. You can also check there what RA is using to load the GB/GBA games.
Ok, I launched a NES game, entered the Retroarch menu, loaded the Gambette core, loaded a GBC game through the Retroarch menu and everything worked like you'd expect it to.
After trying to sift through the Retroarch menu I can't find any menu for setting the default cores. Do I need to do this on my PC through Hakchi?
Amazing! Epic effort! Been lurking about waiting for this to drop! Thank you so much!
Just a reminder , I made this box art a few months back, if anyone wants it ;)
Amazing! Epic effort! Been lurking about waiting for this to drop! Thank you so much!
Just a reminder , I made this box art a few months back, if anyone wants it ;)
The US style box art reminds me.
This has been tested with and does work with the English patch. Just select Dejaps patch via SFROM Tools "Add IPS" option.
It has not been tested with any other translations.
So how do we go about it exactly? Can this be applied directly to the translated rom or can it only be applied to the original Japanese rom? If it's the latter, at what step should I patch the English in? Before or after?
I'm surprised anyone here needs a step-by-step at this point. This should be just typical SFROM Tool use by now.
- Place the "WUP-JUOJ.cnp" in sfrom tools "patches" folder.
- Open SFROM Tool.
- Select the Unmodified Star Ocean ROM.
- Open the Advanced window.
- Click the "Add IPS" button.
- Select the Dejap English IPS patch. (I think its called "soe.ips".)
- Save/close the Advanced window.
- Save as .sfrom.
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7zip opens all files.
Congrats DarkAkuma on getting this working!!!
Your wish is granted.
RetroArch 1.7.2 — Achieving better latency than original hardware through new runahead method
Should hit the SNESC fairly soon.
Um, this is not exactly filling me with confidence that this will work on the weak SNES Mini hardware...
I'm not asking for better-than-real-hardware input lag, just Canoe-like input lag would be perfect for me!