Would be so nice, Lufia is a game I'd like to try again. There are so many classics from the SNES era. (I'm glad Nintendo is better than Sony at pickign classic titles though)
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SNES games coming to Switch Online from Sept 5
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why all of their controllers havent gone back to this is beyond me
Have the games still not been uploaded? Almost done with work and I'm gonna need a SMW fix. On U.S. CST.
Yeah, I think I mentioned this in an earlier NSO/VC/retro related topic, but it's kind of amazing how much classic stuff Square (presumably) controls at this point, between owning Taito and Eidos along with the stuff Square and Enix both released back in the day (Enix brought over stuff from smaller studios as well). Having them not play ball with these services is a major concern. I totally get that they want to do remakes/remasters of FF and DQ games, as well as bigger series like Mana and Chrono, and that's just fine. Just make your other stuff available somehow.
(Also, release those damn DQ Switch ports worldwide, you already have the mobile versions localized)
That stuff really bothers me as a retro buff. I'm not worried that we'll ever see a time where we don't have access to 1-3 versions of each Final Fantasy title across a number of platforms. It's stuff like Lufia, Paladin's Quest, 7th Saga, and EVO that gets lost.
It's the same devs and certainly based on that, for sure.
They might have improved some stuff too, but my god I hope you can hide the constant buttons/player avater that was on the NES app.
Earlier today I was looking at what 3rd parties released what NES Online games. There's not many at all...
List of games released on NES Online by each rights holder in the US and Europe, not including SP games:
(Parenthesis = Japan only games)
Nintendo: 31 (+2)
Arc System Works: 4 (+1)
Koei Tecmo: 3 (+1)
Konami: 3 (+1)
HAL Laboratories: 1 (+1)
Capcom: 1
City Connection: 1 (supposedly that's the name of the rights holder for City Connection?)
Culture Brain: 1
SEGA: 1
Sunsoft: 1
Basically, the biggest 3rd party presence is from Arc System Works, Koei Tecmo, and Konami. And even for those companies (especially for Konami who owns Hudson), the released games are definitely not representative of how we think of the NES library's 3rd party offering.
Honestly its no big loss, the mobile ports are hideous - we'd be much better off with the SNES versions.
How exactly did the NES Online games improve upon the emulation found on the NES Classic?
Interpolation for non-integer scaling. The NES classic had pixel crawl due to the uneven scaling.
Well, dunno about the actual emulation but easy to manage save states and wireless controllers are huge for me.
Your experience must have been better than mine then. It was unplayable for me.
You had to make sure to turn on "low latency mode". The fact that it's not on by default, let alone even an option at all, is mind boggling.
Whoa, ok, can you actually explain what that means? Sounds interesting.
Thanks for the tip - admittedly I've only tinkered with it. I'll give it another go.
Dark1x explains it really well here, but basically it all stems from the fact that the NES uses non-square pixels and when you try to scale the 1:1 pixel output to a 4:3 window in a 16:9 display the pixels are distributed unevenly with some being larger than others leading to a distracting shimmering effect.
This was solved in NES Online with an interpolation filter (which was already used in the SNES classic)
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Thank you...been checking in every so often. Now, I don't need to.
I don't think GC and Wii games will come to the online service. If anything they will remake or remaster specific titles from those systems and either sell them individually or in a bundle. However, if I am wrong and those systems come, I fully expect Nintendo to charge more for the online once they arrive.
Sammy did (the game is Vice Project Doom), which is now a part of Sega. As also mentioned, Super Puyo should be a Sega title as well (originally Compile).
If other Sammy or Atlus games show up, we could see more Sega here. Hoping for Arkista's Ring and Rockin' Cats myself.
I'm strangely excited to be able to play Kirby's Dream Course online with friends easily, plus Super Mario World with a friend should be really fun too.
I think what is talking about is usually referred to as "shimmer"
You can see it discussed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxek9ZD3Njw&t=7m48s
But maybe I am wrong and he can chime in about it specifically.
Me as a kid with a SNES: I sure can't wait for games to be better than this.
Me as an adult: I sure can't wait to play some good old SNES games.
Me as an adult: I sure can't wait to play some good old SNES games.
Vice: Project Doom was made by Sammy, who merged with SEGA.
(Amazing action game, btw. I haven't heard of it before, but it's so good. Almost beat the whole thing earlier today.)
However, there are various games SEGA licensed out to others to make on the NES. For instance, Tengen made Alien Syndrome. And famously both Tengen and Sunsoft made two completely different ports of Fantasy Zone that wildly vary in quality.
I can't believe that we actually got a new SNES game this year in Trials of Mana. I've got it running on my SNES via flashcart and it is an amazing time to be alive.
Wow, very interesting! I always play in 1:1 pixel mode because for some reason I think that the designers of these games made it with that square pixel style in mind. The aspect ratio of Mario, TMNT, and various other games actually seem more "correct" to me and the 4:3 mode looks like things are stretched too far horizontally. I'm not quite sure what he meant in the video about changing the vertical zoom if your TV supports it or what benefit you get from it concerning the pixel shimmer issue.
Edit: Oh I see, after watching the video again I noticed that the shimmer issue isn't present when playing in pixel perfect mode, which is how I always play so I never noticed any issue.
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I would love some Kemco games like Shadowgate or SNK games like Crystalis.
It's a slow night at work, so I brought my Switch to maybe get some time in with these SNES games. I was hoping it would be up before I had to leave, but I guess not. I just wanted to play Joe & Mac before work.
Yeah, that's a bit of a can of worms but generally speaking games were produced with the knowledge that they'd be stretched to 4:3, that said some pieces of art often muddy the waters with circles drawn in 1:1 that become ovals in 4:3.
As far as the TV zoom function is concerned I think what he was getting at is using 1:1 pixel mode and using the horizontal stretch to get rectangular pixels, not sure how well that would work in practice though.
Hm that's not a problem for my american account, I'll look into doing it later. I would need to be able to change it back right after the downloads though.
Haha - I wasn't quite that way when I was younger, but I was always excited to see what was next with future consoles. I already knew I was playing some amazing games with FF6, Chrono Trigger, etc. But the adult sentiment, I feel exactly the same way!
Awesome stuff, for sure. And how about the unreleased Darius and Tetris ports finally seeing the light of day on the SEGA Genesis Mini? Craziness.
OK, I know what I am about to say is never gonna happen. But hear me out...
Do you think Nintendo would implement a Link to the Past Randomizer as a "challenge edition" like they have with the other games?
My dream of having LTTP Randomizer on my Switch is so close.... yet so far.
Do you think Nintendo would implement a Link to the Past Randomizer as a "challenge edition" like they have with the other games?
My dream of having LTTP Randomizer on my Switch is so close.... yet so far.
Yeah! I've got mine on pre-order for that reason alone, I'm hoping it's nice and easy to bring them over to my Mega Drive.
Also I love the 3 button controller so I'm hoping its nice and easy to do a boardswap and use them with real hardware.
Now how to play this stuff... No D-pad on the Joycon, shit one on the Pro Controller. Maybe I'll have to get that controller. It works for the NES games too, right? I never got that controller since it seemed incredibly limiting. But a SNES one that works for both could be nice. If they don't mess up that D-pad too... Guess I'll wait for impressions, and use analog stick until then.
I was confused as to why I never heard about Kirby's Dream Collection, but apparently it did not get a European release.
Interesting how this is a rare example of collected games on console from Nintendo, especially Game Boy.
Just do the same thing
Before Brazil had its own eshop I basically changed every time i would download something
...now is just for the games the Brazilian eshop don't have which is a lot xD
The Pokken controller is really cheap and the dpad is good, its also a good option and has a long cable
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