this was the real consequence of everything going free to play
nobody listened to our warnings :(
nobody listened to our warnings :(
I barely anything multiplayer so I'm always at the bottom of every ranking but how do you know who's a smurf and why would anyone care? They experiment or train with an alt account, what's the impact to you?
Never heard of this term before. Live and learn, like that Sonic music. This is a smurf before gaining this knowledge:
LoL low rank is 99.9% smurfsI just got back into MOBAs recently and League in particular has like a smurf once per game and it's kinda unfair.
Are these guys incels or something?
I find the main problem with smurf is that it doesn't get recognize as a problem by the gaming companies.
jesus christ people, OP did not mean literal incel he just used it synonymously for loser, which incels also are
why are we being so obtuse like there isn't a large overlap between their traits especially considering the world of gaming as a whole
These are the same people that are against SBMMI just got back into MOBAs recently and League in particular has like a smurf once per game and it's kinda unfair.
Are these guys incels or something?
This take and the OP calling people incels for no reason are both wild. Just don't put labels on people when you have no evidence. Don't just randomly call people incels unless you want the word to mean absolutely nothing anymore.
whats the difference between incels and basement dwelling gamers (what OP was probably meaning)
There is a lot of assuming going on about people in your posts. I'm not all that surprised though, given that Era members love to throw inflammatory judgment at other human beings because they can't act normal.
whats the difference between incels and basement dwelling gamers (what OP was probably meaning)
I gotta smurf because my main acc gets matchmaking banned for toxicity quite regularly š¤·āāļø SBMM is fantastic obviously.
You're on a gaming forum up on your pedestal claiming that all people who play video games in a way that you or OP doesn't like are "basement dwellers". If you need the definition of incel, google it. You'll find all kinds of information.Are you gonna answer my question or clarify the assumptions or what
You're on a gaming forum up on your pedestal claiming that all people who play video games in a way that you or OP doesn't like are "basement dwellers". If you need the definition of incel, google it. You'll find all kinds of information.
I don't play online games. I mostly play JRPGs.
What is the obsession with some of learning a new word and driving it to the ground until it loss all meaning? You did it with "anti-consumer", with "entitled", "cringe" and now you're trying it do it to "incel".
whats the difference between incels and basement dwelling gamers (what OP was probably meaning)
Quite a fucking lot, frankly. The latter is a negative stereotype of hardcore gamers as a whole that is generally unwarranted but mostly harmless. The former is a specific subculture associated with extreme misoginy and racism among others.
Like, I dislike smurfing as much as the next guy, and consider it only a step below ragequitting in the sore losers ladder; but it's a bit of a leap to connect that to raging bigotry.
jesus christ people, OP did not mean literal incel he just used it synonymously for loser, which incels also are
why are we being so obtuse like there isn't a large overlap between their traits especially considering the world of gaming as a whole
Many people smurf for behavior opposite of an incel. That's why I find it funny. I've only done it for friends so we can play together.Yeah they're acting like I'm calling them incels. Lots of defensive posts here.
Obviously gamers as a whole aren't incels but when you're intentionally playing against lower ranked people and being toxic towards them, they share similarities with the mindset of an incel. Both are similarly toxic.
I dunno, I guess I just associate capital G Gamers with that same mindset
Uh, OK? You have over eight freaking thousand posts in a videogame board, mate. :D
Uh, OK? I'm black and play multiplayer games, I have female friends in my gaming groups. I've heard all the insults and dealt with all the attitudes, and I know there's a difference between gamers and Gamers and that the Gamers have earned their reputation
Lmao how? Smurfing is definitely poor sportsmanship but I'm sure most people only do it for easy kills and experimentation, nothing more. The labels and accusations getting thrown their way are a little too wild rn lol.You may not be an incel for smurfing but you definitely have low self esteem issues where you can't hang where you belong
Lmao how? Smurfing is definitely poor sportsmanship but I'm sure most people only do it for easy kills and experimentation, nothing more. The labels and accusations getting thrown their way are a little too wild rn lol.
If you want to conflate gamer (sorry, Gamer) = smurf = basement dweller = incel = racist = misogynist = nazi in your mind, more power to you I guess, but perhaps don't be too surprised when other people actually assign different meanings to different words and are confused by your personal dictionary.
This isn't Wicked, we don't need to capitalizing a word to change its meaning. We already have a word for the particular brand of racist and misogyny associated with gaming, and that word is "incel". Even Wikipedia agrees:
Incels (/ĖÉŖnsÉlz/ IN-selz), a portmanteau of "involuntary celibates", are members of an online subculture who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Hence why people in this thread object to its use to paint people doing shit they don't like in games, because it dillutes the term. Using "Gamer capital G" to mean "bigoted gamers" is internal jargon that nobody outside a minuscule circle within the already insular gaming community will understand. Not that the general public won't be lost when hearing "incel", but at the very least they can google the term and bring up the Wikipedia page.
I can say it's just people guilty of it don't like being called out for it.Lmao how? Smurfing is definitely poor sportsmanship but I'm sure most people only do it for easy kills and experimentation, nothing more. The labels and accusations getting thrown their way are a little too wild rn lol.
Because you learn nothing from a game go into expecting to have a chance to win and just getting destroyed by someone many ranks above you.Why don't you learn from the guy that is clearly better than you if you can't help having smurfs every game?
For perspective in fighting games:
-Lower level players play significantly differently and its good practice to play through that every once in awhile