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Eidan

Avenger
Oct 30, 2017
8,576
What's the status on criminal charges? Are any of these people facing real consequences?
 

SDBurton

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,392
I find it really hard to believe Sky didn't know anything that was going on in his own damn house.
 

eraFROMAN

One Winged Slayer
Member
Mar 12, 2019
2,889
How are people talking to Sky and thinking he's ok?

Did he pay them off or something?

He would have to be indisposed for an extended period of time to not be complicit and some one would have backed him up about that by now


He has to have known
Even if he "didn't know," his hands off approach to parties in HIS OWN HOUSE is still damning. Why AREN'T you aware? Why is the party so big that you can't keep track? WHY are KIDS and ALCOHOL present without supervision, or at all? Dog shit, absolves him of nothing.
 

Merc_

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,536
Honestly, competitive Smash is probably done, at least in a large capacity.

No company is going to want to sponsor big events or players after we've seen just how horrible the community is, and Nintendo will sure as hell distance themselves as much as possible from the whole thing.
Nah, there'll be some changes to it, but the community is pretty massive and it'll survive these gross fucks.
 

MoonToon

Banned
Nov 9, 2018
2,029
Apparently Sky is talking in private to prominent people on Twitter who has raised concerns about him and they have ended up coming out defending him afterwards.





Following his rise and fall in the LoL circle I've come to believe Sky to be, on some level, a legit sociopath.

There is no way you own a home that's the hot spot for this type of shit, act the way he acts and treat people the way he does, and NOT know some shit going down.

Mew2king? Idk, get how someone can be around this stuff and not be included because they're seen as a special case (as in part of the "group" but not seen as being the type to be interested in XZY so excluded. This happened with me, me being the loner type of person I am with my lack of interest in anything related to sports or w/e the older kids in my family were into is prob what kept me from being the target of their sexual abuse ... unlike the relative just 1 year younger than me. Had no clue what they did to him cause even though I was "around" I was always by myself). But that doesn't seem to be the case with Sky.


Fuck Sky.
 

Merc_

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,536
Sky should probably explain himself to everyone because it's incredibly hard to believe that he had no idea what was going on in his own home.
 

Pancoar

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,551
I don't get how you can invite a ton of people to your house, INCLUDING MINORS and then just go "lmao idk what goes on in my house teehee *shrug*"

Fuck outta here with that shit.
 

Spinosaurus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,980
Even if Sky somehow didn't know it is ASTRONOMICALLY neglectful of him to somehow not pay attention to all this stuff happening under his own damn roof.
 

mbpm

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,617
I wonder if part of the way minors and adults mix might be part of the openness that fighting game communities enjoy. The idea that unlike other esports pros are not viewed as people to be closed off from the public but people you can sit down with, play games with, and share drinks with at a party.

Doesn't seem to work well with a scene of so many minors like Smash.
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
Having a massive home shouldn't excuse him.

In fact that makes it more suspect tbh.
 

mutantmagnet

Member
Oct 28, 2017
12,401
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Apparently Sky is talking in private to prominent people on Twitter who has raised concerns about him and they have ended up coming out defending him afterwards.





I don't blame the victims at all, but it's clear Sky has talked to them privately about God knows what. You can't trust the scene to fix itself. Sky is clearly about self preservation here. It was his house. I don't see how he didn't know about anything that went on.
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
Someone in those comments implies it's more than just Sky who has ownership of the house? Is that true?
 

taro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
626
It took your bumass 3 tries to get some of the facts out and you're still being accused of not being completely truthful? I'm glad he's being exposed for the manipulative lying pedo he is. Fuck him and fuck his fans that care more about the criminal than the victims. And this Sky dude is a piece of shit enabler.
It's kind of an old post now but someone posted about Zero's thing being "grey" since the age of consent in Chile is 14. While that is true, it's still illegal in Chile for an adult to engage in sexual activity with a minor so it's not a grey area.
As a chilean myself I didn't really appreciate that take at trying to make the issue with a sort of "lol foreign laws" thing so I wanted to clarify it.
Fuck ZeRo.

Also for whoever said that the age of consent here in Chile is 14, while that's true (which is ridiculous) what ZeRo did IS STILL A CRIME. An adult showing pornographic material or asking for material to a minor is always a crime in Chile. An adult engaging in sexual activities with a minor IS A CRIME. Do not try to defend this asshole by bringing chilean law wrong.
Thank you for clarifying. I feel like people know what they're doing when they bring stuff like that up. He is still engaging in a criminal act.
 

Totenkinder

Member
Oct 27, 2017
420
I don't blame the victims at all, but it's clear Sky has talked to them privately about God knows what. You can't trust the scene to fix itself. Sky is clearly about self preservation here. It was his house. I don't see how he didn't know about anything that went on.
Yea agreed this is bullshit. Anyone who's lived in an apartment or house with roommates in that type of setting knows he's lying there's no way he was completely in the dark and even if he wasn't, fuck him for allowing it to happen in his space at all. This is classic enabler behavior he does not just get to wash his hands clean like that. Also sketchy AF he's doing this through DM's instead of coming out publicly and making a statement. Same as Zero who had to REPEATEDLY be called out on his bullshit to finally come clean. This whole thing is one giant dumpster fire at this point
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Yea agreed this is bullshit. Anyone who's lived in an apartment or house with roommates in that type of setting knows he's lying there's no way he was completely in the dark and even if he wasn't, fuck him for allowing it to happen in his space at all. This is classic enabler behavior he does not just get to wash his hands clean like that. Also sketchy AF he's doing this through DM's instead of coming out publicly and making a statement. Same as Zero who had to REPEATEDLY be called out on his bullshit to finally come clean. This whole thing is one giant dumpster fire at this point

Seriously. How do you not know minors are at your house drinking? What if the police showed up? Your excuse can't be "I didn't know anything about that." If it's at your house.
 

Deleted member 9330

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,990
I remember reading that rumor about M2K a while ago, absolutely horrible that it's false and he had to tell a very difficult personal story to dispel it.
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
I don't think Smash the game itself is the issue...but I do think the basis behind it being a series that features characters from a wide array of games aimed at different age groups (or hell, characters who have decades between them in terms of conception) definitely led to an eveionment that probably should've been monitored more closely than other fighting games which tend to sort of have that one age range they tend to attract.
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,865
Has anyone got a picture of Sky's house? Cus if that thing is just two floors there's no way he didn't know. Absolutely no way.

If you live in a shared house, you know what's happening. You don't know everything but you don't miss that certain girls are coming in and out of rooms every so often.
 

AlexFlame116

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 17, 2017
23,182
Utah
It's absolutely maddening how now they're walking back on the Sky accusations because of some private conversations that we apparently can't see but Sky has all the time in the world to fight back and defend himself against every single post that doesn't believe him.
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
I'm glad I don't have any strong attachments to anyone listed...well I used to enjoy Relax Alax but I stayed distant when the allegations hit last year and that was a wise choice.
 

Sandfox

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,743
I don't get how you can invite a ton of people to your house, INCLUDING MINORS and then just go "lmao idk what goes on in my house teehee *shrug*"

Fuck outta here with that shit.
He's claiming that people were allowed to bring whoever they wanted to the event and didn't know there were minors, which is obviously dumb.

Has anyone got a picture of Sky's house? Cus if that thing is just two floors there's no way he didn't know. Absolutely no way.

If you live in a shared house, you know what's happening. You don't know everything but you don't miss that certain girls are coming in and out of rooms every so often.
He has a mansion apparently.
 

mutantmagnet

Member
Oct 28, 2017
12,401

The competitive side of the smash bros community is completely fucked. Look at how long this list goes...
Oh my god. I wasn't prepared to see how much I had scrolling I had to do.

There is a problem in the entire gaming industry but I think smash has more issues involving minors which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. Nintendo needs to make a response to this shitshow.
 

DecoReturns

Member
Oct 27, 2017
22,003
Oh my god. I wasn't prepared to see how much I had scrolling I had to do.

There is a problem in the entire gaming industry but I think smash has more issues involving minors which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. Nintendo needs to make a response to this shitshow.
Nintendo Already made a statement 2-3 days ago.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Oh my god. I wasn't prepared to see how much I had scrolling I had to do.

There is a problem in the entire gaming industry but I think smash has more issues involving minors which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. Nintendo needs to make a response to this shitshow.

Only thing Nintendo is going to do is just sever whatever ties are left in that community.
 

Bard

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
12,462
Only smash player I watch dumb videos of is alpharad, anything about him I should know?
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
Only smash player I watch dumb videos of is alpharad, anything about him I should know?

Thankfully he hasn't been accused of anything and has been supportive of the victims on Twitter I've noticed.

Apparently he actually has stories of his own about abuse he suffered which he's not ready to share.

I'm with you that he's the only Smash community dude who being a creep would actually wreck me.
 

ROM

Member
Dec 28, 2017
97
Sky is a POS. He has always defended anyone who lived under his roof and at best, claimed ignorance. I was told a rumor once before from someone who used to frequent that place and I believed it. If it's true, I keep hoping the victim will come forward because there's one guy who used to be in that circle of people (D1, Zxax and others I don't know by name) and lived at the house but hasn't been named yet.
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
Oh my god. I wasn't prepared to see how much I had scrolling I had to do.

There is a problem in the entire gaming industry but I think smash has more issues involving minors which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. Nintendo needs to make a response to this shitshow.

The Jtails one shocked me

Seemed like a wholesome and calm dude from his early videos. The shit they showed on the chat logs was damning
 

Bard

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
12,462
Thankfully he hasn't been accused of anything and has been supportive of the victims on Twitter I've noticed.

Apparently he actually has stories of his own about abuse he suffered which he's not ready to share.

I'm with you that he's the only Smash community dude who being a creep would actually wreck me.
I've seen in some videos him talk very briefly about having depression. I'm not the biggest follower of his though, so I didn't know about his own experiences with abuse. Hope he's doing well during all of this.
 

Birdie

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
26,289
Alpharad seems like the happiest dude on earth but I'm glad he's reaching out to the victims.

The pattern has been whenever someone with actual skeletons gave support folks would quickly call them out for their hypocrisy, so the fact that hasn't happened with Alpharad gives me hope that he's legit one of the good ones.
 

ItIsOkBro

Happy New Year!!
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
9,515
Apparently Sky is talking in private to prominent people on Twitter who has raised concerns about him and they have ended up coming out defending him afterwards.





i dont believe this for one second

its your house and they're your friends

the only question is how involved was he. turning a blind eye, running an organized child grooming operation...