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Smash player and commentator DJ Nintendo accused of attempting to groom and have sex with a minor
- Thread starter KingTrainJumper
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Evo needs to be permanently shuttered and the entire scene needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, with an outside governing body that protects minors and keeps them separate from adults in inappropriate settings.
Nintendo now also needs to step in and take action as their game seems to be at the center of this storm. I was of the opinion they should not get involved before, that is no longer the case.
It's done. This is beyond the pale.
That's the thing when it really does get into the rape/harass/grooming culture territory.
If most people act like that, others are so much more likely to replicate it, even if they very well never might have if they hadn't become part of that apparently quite messed up competitive smash circle.
And "not doing anything like that" becomes difficult when others directly or indirectly nudge you into it. Worse, actively speaking out against it will likely leave you ostracized.
So once that circle went out of whack, I suppose it's no longer that surprising (in hindsight and all) that the majority of those folks has done something heinous. And probably every single one who spend a moderate amount of time in it has at least witnessed something awry :/
If most people act like that, others are so much more likely to replicate it, even if they very well never might have if they hadn't become part of that apparently quite messed up competitive smash circle.
And "not doing anything like that" becomes difficult when others directly or indirectly nudge you into it. Worse, actively speaking out against it will likely leave you ostracized.
So once that circle went out of whack, I suppose it's no longer that surprising (in hindsight and all) that the majority of those folks has done something heinous. And probably every single one who spend a moderate amount of time in it has at least witnessed something awry :/
The number of cases that have been brought to light in the last 4 days is haunting, and it'll keep growing. It sounds like there was so much enabling going on in the scene, so much normalized horrible behaviour amongst figureheads and many attempts to keep victims silent.
From time-to-time for years I'd check out tournament footage or content from so many of these people. People who were in top standing in the community. How terrible it is that this is who they really were.
I hope the victims will be okay.
From time-to-time for years I'd check out tournament footage or content from so many of these people. People who were in top standing in the community. How terrible it is that this is who they really were.
I hope the victims will be okay.
I can't believe it.. that entire community must be shut down.
The FGC definitely needs to be reconstructed from the ground up, but it's worth noting that - memes aside - the Smash and overall FGC communities are distinct entities. The FGC are no angels, as this week as shown, but going by that list the Smash community might just be worse.
Smash attracts more minors so it makes sense. Just a predators dream that went completely unchecked.
Why the fuck is the whole fighting community so disgusting?
No, I don't literally mean everyone but god damn.
No, I don't literally mean everyone but god damn.
exactly
name aside, the fact that all these top players/commentators/community figures are getting exposed for assault/pedophilia means that the community needs to clear every single one of them out so we can ensure a safe environment for players and fans of all ages. Otherwise, the sponsorships, playerbase, and good will should rightfully disappear. Get your shit together smash community, we have to be better than this or we might as well not have a community
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if Nintendo made a patch to add Tripping back into smash with the next Ultimate update.
Didn't stop people from making Smash competitive before but it would be one of many moves to say "we do not support the competitive scene developed around this game in any way".
That list is a holy fuck-a-doly.
It would be dope if Nintendo opens a victim's fund, to help cover their legal fees and help with therapy and anything else they need.
Honestly this has probably been going on everywhere across all walks of life but now the internet has enabled people to speak out and see something happen as a result
I mean, it'd be nice but ultimately Nintendo doesn't have much to do with any of this. They have always only maintained the slightest connection to the Smash community.
Quite easily when we have a culture that doesn't hold this behavior accountable, and enable exploitation of power dynamics at every level.
What a fucking creep. How's he even allowed to have Nintendo in his name? I don't know him, I don't know the scene but my first thought was he's in someway officially related to Nintendo.
What is it with all those "parties" they want to take their fans with them? They sure as hell try to exploit their status and fame. Fucking disgusting.
What is it with all those "parties" they want to take their fans with them? They sure as hell try to exploit their status and fame. Fucking disgusting.
Nintendo keeping this wing of the FGC at arm's length now seems like some 5D chess.
Holy shit.
This is really getting ridiculous. We are at a point of who wasn't inappropriately sexually grooming.
Yeah, at this point I don't think Nintendo will want the slightest of things to do with the Smash community, they certainly won't like their flagship title being in headlines related to what is basically a pedophile/sexual assault ring.
It's such a shame there are so many victims in what is supposed to be a safe space for friendship and having fun playing and talking about videogames and similar hobbies.
It's such a shame there are so many victims in what is supposed to be a safe space for friendship and having fun playing and talking about videogames and similar hobbies.
Nintendo held back their online infrastructure to protect the youth and the OP shows how easily it was circumvented and the Smash scene is having a big scandal one after another.
One of them even having the nickname DJ Nintendo sure isn't a good look even if it's not their fault.
One of them even having the nickname DJ Nintendo sure isn't a good look even if it's not their fault.
Holy shit! That many?!! Can the Smash scene even be reformed with that many accused with name recognition? One can only hope the unknown incidents arent as numerous.
I know Nintendo is slow with things, but holy fuck, for a family oriented brand, they should put out a statement.
DJ on commentary here. Insane no one told him to GTFO after shit like this in plain sight.
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They have to figure out a way to make it work. If they just shut down everything and a bunch of small rogue scenes were created without any regulation, there's no guarantee all this shitshow won't happen again.
They gave a statement a couple of days ago.
"At Nintendo, we are deeply disturbed by the allegations raised against certain members of the competitive gaming community. They are absolutely impermissible. We want to make it clear that we condemn all acts of violence, harassment, and exploitation against anyone and that we stand with the victims."
Evo Online Canceled Following Allegations Against Former CEO - IGN
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gonna fix what I said in another thread
it isn't literally everyone with power being a pedo, it's just everyone in the smash community apparently
it isn't literally everyone with power being a pedo, it's just everyone in the smash community apparently
Honestly, I had the inverse at the same point in my life. I spent several years getting into the community as a player and accidental TO and quit almost in tears after years of bullying, gaslighting, and property damage.
And yet I never though *this* problem was so wide spread in the community.
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This is absolutely horrifying and mind boggling at the amount of people involved.
This is so hard to wrap my mind around all this.
Fucking christ. I recognize names from when I used to watch Smash tournaments. Vile.
This is the second announcer after D1, and this also includes the Evo CEO. I have to wonder if this is organised, given we're not just talking players, but now three people (at least) who are organising these tournaments.
I now wonder if match-fixing scandals in the past were done in order to boost underage players to qualify them for tournaments so they could travel and be isolated from their friends and families.
www.polygon.com
We need an FBI investigation at this point, honestly.
I now wonder if match-fixing scandals in the past were done in order to boost underage players to qualify them for tournaments so they could travel and be isolated from their friends and families.
Smash Bros. player barred from tournament after match fixing admission
CaptainZack will not be at Smash Con
www.polygon.com
We need an FBI investigation at this point, honestly.
It's also worth mentioning that there's not really one centralized "Smash Community". Like, TOs largely do their own thing independent from one another. There should definitely be a stronger governing body and much improved systems put in place to prevent these situations from ever happening (much strict rules for alcohol/drugs and minors, minors being accompanied by guardians for starters). But, like, when people say "rebuild from the ground up" I have to wonder what that even means. I don't think getting rid of tournament series that were run by people who were reputable, good, well respected, and have no history of harassment/assault/abuse/etc. and replacing them with a tournament series run by someone else less experienced helps anyone.
I don't say this to downplay the awfulness that has been exposed in the community. It's completely reprehensible that the Smash and FGC were both breading grounds for such monsters and I've spent the last few days frightened that people I've respected and even met have done such horrific acts. But pragmatically, I think radically overhauling accountability and attendance rules rather than getting rid of the scene and starting over would realistically lead to better outcomes.
I can't hear it exactly, something about chaining, and something about not worrying about a wack ass bf?
It already has been this year, wrestling had a big speak out about abusers and rapists just a few weeks ago.
Gotta start at the Sky Williams house that appears to be quite the epicenter in all thisThis is the second announcer after D1, and this also includes the Evo CEO. I have to wonder if this is organised, given we're not just talking players, but now three people (at least) who are organising these tournaments.
I now wonder if match-fixing scandals in the past were done in order to boost underage players to qualify them for tournaments so they could travel and be isolated from their friends and families.
Smash Bros. player barred from tournament after match fixing admission
CaptainZack will not be at Smash Con
We need an FBI investigation at this point, honestly.
Nintendo needs to step in and burn this whole community to the ground and rebuild it with Nintendo at the helm so this never happens again.