This game was such a great game to get at that time. After many pro war games this game comes out and delivers a very needed message.
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Six Days in Fallujah ‘not trying to make a political commentary,’ creator says
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It's interesting this game is still locked on PS3/X360 on console side.
I guess it's not a very demanding game so any old laptop could play it these days.
Then you have your experience and your views. And certainly, if asked to recount your experience or share your opinion on the topic, you would have a very clear point of view on the matter.
This game is going to present it's own point of view. And that point of view is going to be informed by those who had their own experience in the matter, and the developers who are creating their game and have their views, informed by any number of things. It's going to be suffused with politics of the creators and those of the stories they tell whether the creators want it to be or not.
The politics of people are infused into everything they do. There is no way to tell a story about a war without taking some kind of side on things. If you think whatever side you're on isn't take a side and therefore it's not political for you, that just means your side is the current status quo.
Let's be honest: If they really didn't want to make a political statement, they wouldn't be using a real, recent, and controversial war as their setting in the first place. Which is not to say a game that use a fictional back drop can't be political of course, but you literally can't make a game, movie, book, etc about this setting without it inherently carrying major political connotations
Yeah it is old enough to be played on pretty much anything.
A shame it was never re released though. It should be played more.
Telling the story from one perspective only is *political*. This isn't neutral storytelling but making out that the forces involved should be treated as heroes.
Meanwhile the impact of these "heroic" acts still reverberate around a region set in fire by this illegal war waged as a vanity project for George W and Tony Blair.
This is a political game whether you buy the hilarious lies that it isn't because they say it isn't or not.
That game would be perfect for Switch :p
Seriously though I'm gonna track a PC release....or should I wait to get my hands on my ps3....decisions...
But whether it's pro US or highlights the evils of war, those are both political statements...
Devs need to stop avoiding "politics" like it's some taboo or boogeyman.
Hey guys check out my new game, 63 Days in Warsaw! It's about the complexity of urban combat. A landser can't second guess the decisions of policymakers.
They're not dumb, they know that their view cannot be defended so they just avoid the question entirely.
They aren't going on record saying that they're ok with American soldiers committing war crimes.
Just doing a search.
Turns out Marty O'Donnell is doing the music for the game. You know, the disgraced racist Halo composer.
So they can lie to themselves about it all, but the employees they're attracting says it all.
Turns out Marty O'Donnell is doing the music for the game. You know, the disgraced racist Halo composer.
So they can lie to themselves about it all, but the employees they're attracting says it all.
Honestly, I kinda do yeah. Generally anything rooted in real life, modern (aka past century) conflict makes me super uncomfortable, especially stuff like CoD, unless it is actively criticising war itself (aka Spec Ops). Hell even stuff like military sci-fi is a bit iffy to me, but I appreciate I come from a slightly different background as I grew up in a country where military conscription was mandatory, so I have always viewed things like this in a different light.
This game is gonna keep finding ways to be worse and this is one hell of a way to do that.
It's actually back compatible on Xbox One and Series X/S and available on the online store.
ETA: Just checked and it's actually on sale for $6 at the moment.
I'm not sure about 1, but World at War for sure. It's even slomo crawl sequence as you are wounded.
Would be great on Switch as there is a fairy big chunk of people who skipped the PS360
Fucking how is this not political commentary!? It's a thing from the Iraq war! a war that is highly debated! Jesus fuck, the Alt-right really has legit convinced people that "political commentary" means people of color &/or lgbtq+ people. war crimes? Chemical warfare? Traditionalism vs. modernism? Those aren't political! Now lgbtq+ people just existing, that's political! Fucking idiots.
Yep. Like having a political statements is not inherently bad.
"Fuck the Nazis" is inherently a political statements
It's also inherently the absolutely correct moral and ethical position.
Hell even incredibly moderate positions are still political. "Our current society is flawed but alternatives are worse" is a political opinion
"The status quo is fine" is a political position
"The status quo is mostly fine but there are a few areas we could improve on"? Political
"We need major societal changes" is political
Literally anything saying absolutely anything about society and the direction society should take is political. And you can be political by omission too of course. Separating politics from art or culture is impossible because doing so is also inherently stripping it of any meaning whatsoever
How about this site makes the apolitical choice of not giving any air to a piece of shit game that glorifies the brutalization of brown bodies
I honestly want to know why devs or the PR for the Debs KEEP releasing statements like this, who are they actually for at this point because they always end up being mocked (and rightly so).
Like it's pathetic at this point and it makes me wish a reporter would call them out on the fact their then exploiting real world imagery then (like David Cage saying Detroit was not political or about prejudice and racism when using real world imagery, or Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Ubisoft etc) for little more then window dressing and their "Not political" statement is nonsense.
Racism?! Yikes :(
Like it's pathetic at this point and it makes me wish a reporter would call them out on the fact their then exploiting real world imagery then (like David Cage saying Detroit was not political or about prejudice and racism when using real world imagery, or Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Ubisoft etc) for little more then window dressing and their "Not political" statement is nonsense.
Racism?! Yikes :(
She did the same shit with the report of crunch in CD Projekt Red
I have not seen even one critical tweet from a former Fallujah resident to be honest.
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Also Peter Tamte
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Victura CEO Peter Tamte offended by "people inside our industry that believe videogames not qualified to tackle real-life, controversial events" - DailyBits DailyBits
Can a war crime be turned into a video game?
dailybits.news
The context is just awful. There's a big difference between navigating a horrendous cityfight and deciding what risks to take as a civilian in something like This War of Mine, and doing so in a computer game gleefully badged as a first person shooter led by US soldier characters. Gee, I wonder what most of the challenges in a game in this genre, with a clearly understood target market and the developers history, are going to revolve around.Also Peter Tamte
Victura CEO Peter Tamte offended by "people inside our industry that believe videogames not qualified to tackle real-life, controversial events" - DailyBits DailyBits
Can a war crime be turned into a video game?
Hmmmmmmm.
One of those devs, huh?
Just the use of "insurgent" to name people defending a ruling regime against an invading force is iffy, but using a battle widely considered a war crime and going with the ubi excuse...
One of those devs, huh?
Just the use of "insurgent" to name people defending a ruling regime against an invading force is iffy, but using a battle widely considered a war crime and going with the ubi excuse...
Unfortunately when devs say this, they don't actually mean they're apolitical. It's a dogwhistle to capital G gamers telling them this product is for them.
Well, you see it isn't because no lgbtq+ people or people of color. How the fuck did we get here?
On the one hand, I would support a well written and designed game that explored the harsh realities of the drive to invade Iraq and the immense damage the invasion has done to countless lives. People are becoming adults right now who have no memory of the warmongering leading up to the invasion, of the hidden death toll, of the damaged veterans, the atrocities that occurred there, or even why the surge into Fallujah even occured. Spec Ops: The Line explored war and war games, but not for a real conflict.
These devs are clearly not the ones to make that game.
On a related note I still find it strange how few movies were made about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Three Kings and Hurt Locker still pop to mind as the most prominent take downs of the Iraq war, and Three Kings kinda surprised the shit out of everyone on that front since the trailers made it look nothing like what it was.
These devs are clearly not the ones to make that game.
On a related note I still find it strange how few movies were made about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Three Kings and Hurt Locker still pop to mind as the most prominent take downs of the Iraq war, and Three Kings kinda surprised the shit out of everyone on that front since the trailers made it look nothing like what it was.
isn't this from that studio that used to make battle sims for the CIA? seems kinda sketch to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't think people are against games being political, but this is more rah rah American the warmachine, and arguably the most blatant effort in a military themed game we've seen in over a decade. I'm also genuinely curious why this game resurfaced. US military recruitment is at an all-time low, is it time for some propaganda projects?
Let's face it, the above can be applied to pretty much most war operations by most countries in the world for most periods of time. So yeah, pretty much above, just replace "American, fuck yeah" with "Country Y, fuck yeah!" and you will get similar results.
That said, LOL at the dev. Take a hugely controversial topic during war and then say "it's not political". Even the title is political not to mention the game. Sigh...
