I've been researching about this topic for the last couple of days and I see Series X is only getting DV with streaming like the Xbox One X currently has. I'm assuming the same for ps5. I have a one x currently but everyone hypes up DV so I'm wondering if I should take the plunge. I'm about to upgrade to a lg cx as well.
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Since it looks like the Ps5 & Xbox Series won't be supporting Dolby Vision for UHD playback would it be smart to invest in a 4k blu ray player?
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If there's support for Dolby Vision in streaming, then I assume there is no hardware limitation preventing extending support to Blurays, is there?
I'd say if it's not being supported by your chosen console, complain and see if they'll add support down the line first.
I'd say if it's not being supported by your chosen console, complain and see if they'll add support down the line first.
For me it absolutely is. DV is the absolute best for the sole reason of having it's own "Dynamic Tone Mapping" solution integrated, which makes every movie look phenomenal. While UHD without DV can look incredibly washed out and greyish because they don't have this and you shouldn't use the TV DTM in general so you're stuck with a greyish washed out picture.
If both consoles are still not supporting it then I'll probably buy a standalone that can.
My guess is streaming and uhd playback DV have different licenses, maybe the streaming service itself like Netflix pays in part for the DV support on console's app.
Good question, it would be a shame if the new consoles don't support it. If it's licencing, then they could at least let the end user buy a licence like Atmos for Headphones on Xbox One.
DV is one of the reasons I've drifted away from physical UHD towards Apple TV.
DV is one of the reasons I've drifted away from physical UHD towards Apple TV.
DV may come as a Firmware update but a 4k disc with DV will still give you HDR10 (as DV is an extension of HDR10) if the player or TV doesn't support DV.
A dedicated 4k player is a good option if you have a good TV and surround setup though and watch a lot of movies of course, as a good 4k player will be better than the PS5 and Series X.
A dedicated 4k player is a good option if you have a good TV and surround setup though and watch a lot of movies of course, as a good 4k player will be better than the PS5 and Series X.
Yeah I'm really wanting to find this out. I saw some places mentioning that XSX doesn't support DV for Blu-ray, though does have it for gaming.
I'm yet to see any concrete evidence for PS5, and looks like OP is just hypothesizing on this one.
Anyone know for certain?
I'm yet to see any concrete evidence for PS5, and looks like OP is just hypothesizing on this one.
Anyone know for certain?
I would wait until the units are in people's hands without embargo before buying anything extra. I'm then going to wait a bit longer to see what happens if it's not there - maybe it'll be patched in later.
I still have my ks8000, which doesn't have DV, so have time to burn. someone on the other locked thread said they honestly didn't see a huge difference between HDR10 and DV, so that's promising.
I still have my ks8000, which doesn't have DV, so have time to burn. someone on the other locked thread said they honestly didn't see a huge difference between HDR10 and DV, so that's promising.
Yeah im just assuming about ps5. The kits the press have received for series x say uhd playback isn't supported just streaming.
I think i might wait as well especially if it gets patches in i just want some thoughts about it lol. I have a shitty tv right now for hdr content js7000 so anything will be a upgrade at this point 😆
Thank you for the suggestion I'll check that one out if these cobsoles never receive it for playback.
I've just upgraded to an LG CX so I was really hoping PS5 would support DV for UHD Blu-rays, Hopefully we get definite confirmation soon.
Oh I definitely will wait I just wanted to see everyone's opinion about the topic.
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that last bit isn't really true, the xbox one x was fine as a 4K UHD player when discs were mostly HDR10.
I just sold mine, because the PS5 is going to have one anyway lmfao. I sure hope so it supports DV.
See I'm definitely a casual in this but I'm trying to become an enthusiast lol. That's why I'm trying to get the best tv on the market. I have a pretty large 4k blu ray collection as well now. I didn't realize disney movies didn't support DV on disc.
Aha fairs.
Personally I'd imagine that the consoles will bring some life into the UHD blu ray market.
Which will likely mean cheaper players to capitalise on that.
I'm guessing there's embargoes on the UHD playback currently? I need to know, as freeing up a HDMI and retiring my Sony 4k player would be good.
I've got that one too. It's great.
I'm always a proponent of standalone players because they're invariably quieter and not lit up like Christmas trees.
Since Dolby Vision on Xbox is already supported for streaming movies/shows for years, they could just update the Blu-Ray app (if they want and/or if the DV Blu-Ray market will increase compared to now).
As Microsoft is introducing Dolby Vision games for the first time on consoles in 2021, I think a Blu-Ray app update is even more possible around the same timeframe.
As Microsoft is introducing Dolby Vision games for the first time on consoles in 2021, I think a Blu-Ray app update is even more possible around the same timeframe.
my iPhone 12 Pro has dolby vision and there is barely a difference between my non dolby vision OLED, if anything, when viewing dolby vision content
Sadly, 4k UHD media looks like it is floundering. I am big advocate of discs over streaming, but the mainstream take up is no where near the levels of DVD > blu ray.
Enthusiasts and audiophiles see (and hear) the value. And, if you are an enthusiast, the Console 4k players won't be best suited to playback anyway.
That said - it seems like a strange omission when the hardware should be able to support it.
Enthusiasts and audiophiles see (and hear) the value. And, if you are an enthusiast, the Console 4k players won't be best suited to playback anyway.
That said - it seems like a strange omission when the hardware should be able to support it.
Didn't think DV offers anything that games can't do already. Though someone said that it helps with configuration too which could be helpful.
Is there a difference between streaming DV and disc playback DV?
I'm choosing to wait and see if anything develops on this front but am leaning toward saving for a dedicated player if it looks like Sony and Microsoft are skimping on this feature with no indication of change.
Ah I see I see, I thought it was a more recent one, I don't know those models that much.
Disney is one of the worst for home media releases sadly (which sucks because they're sitting on a massive Fox catalog now that's just collecting dust). Disney used to support DV on discs then stopped suddenly. The Last Jedi's original 4k release had DV then when it got rereleased with the entire saga in 4K, they removed it...puzzling as hell.
It's an expensive purchase to make, the good DV capable players are several hundred $.
I'd get the display calibrated first before trying to eek out image quality from hardware players.
I'd check to see how many movies you want want to buy on disc support DV also. It's not available as widespread as people make out.
The consoles probably won't support the particular flavour of DV that discs use for a while.
Dolby Vision is a platform made of numerous flavours; there are some new features coming to HDMI 2.1a that may open some doors to software based playback.
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I would NEVER use a console to play UHD's, or any physical media for that matter. For UHD's I have a Panasonic UB820EB hooked into a Sony DN1080 receiver.
You know since physical Sony films in 4K have DV, they would think PS5 would be DV enabled for disc movies. Luckly I have my standalone 4k player I got 2 years ago. Still running new as of today. It's an LG-UBK90.
It's minor.
I doubt anybody is going to see the difference between itctp and ycc 420 on an uncalibrated consumer display.
Beyond that you are simply saying I prefer the way Dolby compressed the highlights and colours more than how how Sony/LG/Samsung do it
I've been on the fence about buying this machine for several months. Is it essentially the same machine on the inside as the much more expensive model?
Also I guess that a £300 uhd player will have better software/post processing jazziness than the blu ray player on a game console, judging from the price alone.
I've watched plenty of Dolby Vision content via streaming. As well as regular 10 bit HDR films with crazy high bitrate (the shining in 4k was insane) - I've never watched one thing and thought it was particularly worse/better than the other. Until HDTV Test can properly review the new consoles. I'm definitely going to hold off!
It's funny, Vincent from hdtvtest lives/works pretty close to where I live. Shame he doesn't calibrate anymore. Would be pretty sick to have him round :D