SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II

SilverX · Dec 6, 2019

Chamber said:
Playstation 4 will continue to sell in emerging markets and through low cost bundles. A new Ratchet & Clank hitting a 7 year old console does nothing to move additional units but will do a lot for a console that's only going to have ~20 games available at launch not counting BC.

The PS5 is going to sell itself the first year just for the novelty of being the new PlayStation. I doubt Sony truly sees Ratchet being exclusive to the PS5 as a pivotal release during that time.

You also have to remember that Sony wants to make money on their games and they are cutting off a huge install base with the PS4 for a game that would do rather well at this point. Games like Ratchet have historically proven to do better after a few years when younger demographics start adapting to the new platforms and the prices go down.

I mean, Knack was a PS4 launch game but one that was more of a tech demo and felt shoddy as a PS4 gen game. The new Ratchet no doubt has a much bigger budget and we will have to see if Sony thinks it can do well as a PS5 exclusive game or if it needs a PS4 version too. Right now it just feels like it can go either way.

Chamber · Dec 6, 2019

Thinking PS5 is going to sell just on the virtue of being PS5 is a very arrogant and lazy approach to launching a console and runs contrary to everything we've heard from Sony and Jim Ryan. That's how you end up in 3rd place.

ArmGunar · Dec 6, 2019

Renfran said:
Now you have to get into Royal in March. It makes P5 even better and makes it the definitive version. Persona is one of the series really important to Sony. It's been exclusive to PlayStation for almost 25 years now.

Lol I don't want to put another 80 hours in the game just for a few things, even if I loved it a lot

OG_Thrills · Dec 6, 2019

Omnistalgic said:
Yup, ppl using information to boost their twitter following or YouTube channels. Knowledge is power rings more true today than everything, information is literally money.

Everyone, industry vets, insiders, please for next year just STFU. Not everything needs a hint. The less I come here or stay in social media I really feel the more enjoyment I get out of this industry.

Just like that recent "HZD" on PC rumour that popped up recently. People are putting out false narratives or fucking with huge budgets for mentions and likes. And yes, things are getting increasingly vitriolic. Though I'm not sure if it's a degradation of our discourse or if people are, for want of a better word, getting "nervous" about next generation?

jschreier · Dec 6, 2019

First of all, the purpose of reporting news is to inform readers, not to boost one's Twitter following. No matter what I choose or don't choose to report, that will always be the case. Second of all, I am not planning on writing an article about every single video game coming to the PS5. Y'all need to actually listen to what I said on the podcast instead of raging over bullet-point summaries of a long and free-flowing conversation.

The Praiseworthy · Dec 6, 2019

My god is it next week already ???

SOP episode and TGA are going to set us in FREAKING FIRE for 2020....seriously 2020 is going to be an epic good year FOR MANY REASONS not only for gaming industry but overall.

Hybrid Rainbow · Dec 6, 2019

ArmGunar said:
Lol I don't want to put another 80 hours in the game just for a few things, even if I loved it a lot

This is kinda where I'm at. I'm very much interested In the new additions to P5, but having to do another 80 hours just to get to it doesn't appeal to me lol.

illmatic22 · Dec 6, 2019

jschreier said:
First of all, the purpose of reporting news is to inform readers, not to boost one's Twitter following. No matter what I choose or don't choose to report, that will always be the case. Second of all, I am not planning on writing an article about every single video game coming to the PS5. Y'all need to actually listen to what I said on the podcast instead of raging over bullet-point summaries of a long and free-flowing conversation.

This thread gets pretty darn awful. Just stay away as much as possible.

SilverX · Dec 6, 2019

The Praiseworthy said:
My god is it next week already ???

SOP episode and TGA are going to set us in FREAKING FIRE for 2020....seriously 2020 is going to be an epic good year FOR MANY REASONS not only for gaming industry but overall.

We have both the SoP and TGA events next week and I bet somehow the new Batman Arkham game teased STILL won't be announced XD

Angie · Dec 6, 2019

illmatic22 said:
This thread gets pretty darn awful. Just stay away as much as possible.

It does?

DigSCCP · Dec 6, 2019

Electro said:
Would not count on it but slowly it's time for Sony to show new upcoming VR games, only Iron Man for next year is a bit dry....

Yep !
I really hope we get some announcements from Manchester Studio and Japan Studio soon.
It´s about time for some more AstroGOTY glory !

Night Hunter · Dec 6, 2019

Angie22 said:
It does?

Well, some of the replies in this thread were definitely pretty fucking weird if you ask me. The games industry is pretty much the only sector in the entertainment industry where this level of secrecy is not only practiced but even encouraged by fans, judging by some of the posts.

It's frankly pretty embarrassing how much they have some people by the balls. Where even the announcement of a title is treated as a state secret, all in the name of the perfect and almighty marketing campaign.

Look if even one director cares about the bulletpoints of his new film getting leaked. Let alone sending C&D letters or some shit like that.

Omnistalgic · Dec 6, 2019

jschreier said:
First of all, the purpose of reporting news is to inform readers, not to boost one's Twitter following. No matter what I choose or don't choose to report, that will always be the case. Second of all, I am not planning on writing an article about every single video game coming to the PS5. Y'all need to actually listen to what I said on the podcast instead of raging over bullet-point summaries of a long and free-flowing conversation.

I think you would agree all forms of journalism has been infected by sensationalist reporting and "me first attitude" no? That comment was not a jab at you or anyone in particular btw, I simply quoted someone who's POV I share in a general sense. And that's a desire that we let Devs reveal what they want to reveal and for everyone to stop scouting for news and info so aggressively. Ppl literally check updates on LinkedIn or deciphering tweets, like slow it down. It's getting further and further away from reporting news worthy information IMO. New patent, new article, someone files a trademark, new article, Phil tweets, new article. Lol Not specifically aiming anything at you.

Deleted member 59519 · Dec 6, 2019

SilverX said:
We have both the SoP and TGA events next week and I bet somehow the new Batman Arkham game teased STILL won't be announced XD

People are saying that's gonna be a no-show for TGAs. It'll be announced next year 😞

shadowman16 · Dec 6, 2019

Tonky said:
People are saying that's gonna be a no-show for TGAs. It'll be announced next year 😞

At this point I assume its an elaborate joke/riddle concocted by the evil alliance of Riddler and Joker and is in fact not happening ever. Just seems mad that it gets teased at seemingly every event and yet is a no show in every last one. Especially after the teasing around the last SoP. Pity, I really enjoyed Arkham Knight and am totally down for another Batman game, even more so now that its been almost 5 years since its release...

Deleted member 51691 · Dec 6, 2019

shadowman16 said:
At this point I assume its an elaborate joke/riddle concocted by the evil alliance of Riddler and Joker and is in fact not happening ever. Just seems mad that it gets teased at seemingly every event and yet is a no show in every last one. Especially after the teasing around the last SoP. Pity, I really enjoyed Arkham Knight and am totally down for another Batman game, even more so now that its been almost 5 years since its release...

WB Montreal is a cruel mistress

SolidSnakex · Dec 6, 2019

Tonky said:
People are saying that's gonna be a no-show for TGAs. It'll be announced next year 😞

Isn't that leaked Harry Potter game rumored to be a next-gen game? I could see Batman being the same. WB let Rocksteady go all in this gen with making Arkham Knight a current-gen exclusive. If that's the case then I could see it popping up at one of the console reveals, or at one of the E3 conferences.

Angie · Dec 6, 2019

Night Hunter said:
Well, some of the replies in this thread were definitely pretty fucking weird if you ask me. The games industry is pretty much the only sector in the entertainment industry where this level of secrecy is not only practiced but even encouraged by fans, judging by some of the posts.

It's frankly pretty embarrassing how much they have some people by the balls. Where even the announcement of a title is treated as a state secret, all in the name of the perfect and almighty marketing campaign.

Look if even one director cares about the bulletpoints of his new film getting leaked. Let alone sending C&D letters or some shit like that.

I will quote myself what i said a few months why this is the case.

Angie22 said:
Well, that is another subject of discussion, companies spend a ton to keep it secret - it's a fixation with the industry. In any other entertainment industry you know about projects being made as soon as they enter production whether it's movies or music or literature.
The main reason why video games have this secrecy is because of how important marketing is in this particular industry, more so than in movies or music, which often sell based on the names of the artists and their merits. Because of how saturated the games industry is, and the fact that games tend to have longer production cycles than other mediums and a higher cost of entry for a consumer, publishers will want to market their games on their own terms, waiting until the right moment to maximize consumer interest.
Additionally, people who play games often don't comprehend how a game is actually made and the work that goes behind them. There is a disconnect of how games are actually made vs how they are perceived to be made; and publishers will also want to capitalize on the "magical" nature of their projects.
This explains why companies spend a lot of money and time to keep it secret, and why they have options in place to act when someone leaks projects and breaks their NDA.

Deleted member 59519 · Dec 6, 2019

SolidSnakex said:
Isn't that leaked Harry Potter game rumored to be a next-gen game? I could see Batman being the same. WB let Rocksteady go all in this gen with making Arkham Knight a current-gen exclusive. If that's the case then I could see it popping up at one of the console reveals, or at one of the E3 conferences.

I think the same person saying it'll be announced next year also said that it would be cross-gen

ASilentProtagonist · Dec 6, 2019

Suckerpunch is so talented

DreamSurf · Dec 6, 2019

ASilentProtagonist said:
Suckerpunch is so talented

Bruh I cannot wait for a new trailer Tuesday. I am allowing myself to get hyped because the GOT playlist was updated yesterday on playstations youtube channel.

orochi91 · Dec 6, 2019

Already looking forward to GoT 2.

It will be built from the ground-up, specifically for the PS5.

Angie · Dec 6, 2019

Mm needs to hire him.

____ · Dec 6, 2019

Posted this in the OT but maybe better here.

Deleted member 57361 · Dec 6, 2019

jschreier said:
First of all, the purpose of reporting news is to inform readers, not to boost one's Twitter following. No matter what I choose or don't choose to report, that will always be the case. Second of all, I am not planning on writing an article about every single video game coming to the PS5. Y'all need to actually listen to what I said on the podcast instead of raging over bullet-point summaries of a long and free-flowing conversation.

If I remember well, and correct me if I'm wrong, you said that you leaked Fallout 76 because you thought that people should know that it was a multiplayer game and Bethesda opened pre-orders without saying this. My question is: This is the case here? You think that the info that you have is something that readers should know before the official event?

Modest_Modsoul · Dec 6, 2019

Angie22 said:
Mm needs to hire him.

Lol, indeed.

He just made a trumpet out of DualShock 4.

And rock-paper-scissors with hand gestures.

Also mini pool table from TV.

All of that from early access...

SilverX · Dec 6, 2019

Tonky said:
People are saying that's gonna be a no-show for TGAs. It'll be announced next year 😞

This is too expected, its like they are making people relive waiting for DMC5 to be announced lol

TheRulingRing · Dec 6, 2019

I wish they would stop with these short 10-20 minute SoPs. It doesn't feel like an event at all.

If you really have to save your load until you can make it 45 mins.

NediarPT88 · Dec 6, 2019

ArmGunar said:
I just finished Persona 5, damn it was so great
I never played a Persona game and tbh I never wanted to know what kind of game it was and didn't know anything about its world/lore, etc...

But with the recent addition of the game to PS Now, well it was the moment to try it

I can easily say that it's one of best games I played this generation !
I loved every characters and the story
Each character with its own interesting background and story, I was surprised it was so well done

The chara design (Ann and Kawamaki <3)
The stylish transition during combat, exploration, etc...
The cutscenes so well made, looks like an anime when you saw them (wished there was more of them)

And to finish, the OST, my god the musics are so good (too bad they are only on Spotify Japan :/)
Musics during exploration, combat, Mementos and the best ones in the Gunshop and when you have secured the route in a Palace

The only minus I found is a few designs of Persona are ugly lol
But among all of them, a few are a really beautiful (Lovers and Priestess <3)

Now I understand why people praise this game so much and I'm happier for Atlus now I know the game has sold 3.2m copies

Yeah it's great. So stylish too.

And when I thought the music couldn't get any better, the game introduces this one near the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDiHZiBtpE

I also really liked how different it feels compared to other turned based rpgs, with the daily stuff and confidants.

Squarealex · Dec 6, 2019

____ said:
Posted this in the OT but maybe better here.

for me, it's deserved.

MisterP𝕏L · Dec 6, 2019

In fact, there is also likely to predict the return of Ape Escape during this State Of Play because I do not know if you forgot but last June an image had teased the potential return of the license.

Added to that is the fact that Japan Studio has to announce its new game this year, they said last year.

And even go further, it's the 25th anniversary of PlayStation ... There are rumors about a potential Crash Bandicoot World and if, Sony gathered Crash Bandicoot, Ape Escape and Resident Evil 3 for the occasion? Hmm ...

Deleted member 51691 · Dec 6, 2019

MisterPixel said:
In fact, there is also likely to predict the return of Ape Escape during this State Of Play because I do not know if you forgot but last June an image had teased the potential return of the license.

Added to that is the fact that Japan Studio has to announce its new game this year, they said last year.

And even go further, it's the 25th anniversary of PlayStation ... There are rumors about a potential Crash Bandicoot World and if, Sony gathered Crash Bandicoot, Ape Escape and Resident Evil 3 for the occasion? Hmm ...

Geoff did say that nothing for the TGAs has leaked, and Crash did leak if you count Sabi. I can see the next Crash game being a State of Play reveal with the usual marketing deal.

Blackleg-sanji1 · Dec 6, 2019

Here we go...y'all raising my ape escape hopes again....how many times we gonna do this in 2019 😥

Deleted member 887 · Dec 6, 2019

It's lit next Tuesday

Saint-14 · Dec 6, 2019

jschreier said:
First of all, the purpose of reporting news is to inform readers, not to boost one's Twitter following. No matter what I choose or don't choose to report, that will always be the case. Second of all, I am not planning on writing an article about every single video game coming to the PS5. Y'all need to actually listen to what I said on the podcast instead of raging over bullet-point summaries of a long and free-flowing conversation.

Are the launch games looking good? I don't care what you leak, give me everything.

Electro · Dec 6, 2019

TheRulingRing said:
I wish they would stop with these short 10-20 minute SoPs. It doesn't feel like an event at all.

If you really have to save your load until you can make it 45 mins.

20+ mins sounds good imo, enough time to show a lot of games.

Deleted member 864 · Dec 6, 2019

ASilentProtagonist said:
Suckerpunch is so talented

Whew. I can't wait until we see more (hopefully next Tuesday.)

Macca · Dec 6, 2019

Could Ghost of Tsushima get a release date?

Blackleg-sanji1 · Dec 6, 2019

I truly hope the show ghosts...if only because damn we need new gifs I'm tired of those lol

DreamSurf · Dec 6, 2019

Blackleg-sanji1 said:
Here we go...y'all raising my ape escape hopes again....how many times we gonna do this in 2019 😥

If ape escape comes back I believe it will be on PS5

Angie · Dec 6, 2019

McMoneyman said:
Could Ghost of Tsushima get a release date?

If the game is really not crossgen (and I still think it is) than is more than likely that next trailer from it will have a release date.

Electro · Dec 6, 2019

McMoneyman said:
Could Ghost of Tsushima get a release date?

Probably not imo, launch will be after Tlou2 and that's too far away for a date.

Macca · Dec 6, 2019

Angie22 said:
If the game is really not crossgen (and I still think it is) than is more than likely that next trailer from it will have a release date.

It will probably be a crossgen game eventually, but not marketed as one initially.

Loudninja · Dec 6, 2019

shadowman16 · Dec 6, 2019

Electro said:
Probably not imo, launch will be after Tlou2 and that's too far away for a date.

Exactly what I'm thinking. Plus who knows if its delayed again. No point looking silly like they did with TLOU2 release date all over agian.

Megawarrior · Dec 6, 2019

Loudninja said:

I really wanted this one and the red one. Kinda still do.

Samanosuke Akechi · Dec 6, 2019

Saint-14 · Dec 6, 2019

shadowman16 said:
Exactly what I'm thinking. Plus who knows if its delayed again. No point looking silly like they did with TLOU2 release date all over agian.

No way Ghost will get any delays after it has been internally delayed twice because of TLoU, it should have come much sooner if that didn't happen.

Chamber · Dec 6, 2019

McMoneyman said:
Could Ghost of Tsushima get a release date?

Announce the release date so we can hurry up and get the delay announcement out of the way.

Macca · Dec 6, 2019

Chamber said:
Announce the release date so we can hurry up and get the delay announcement out of the way.

You're sadly right.

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