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SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II
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Bloodborne without frame pacing and general FPS issues is the Holy Grail, IMO.
Serious answer: as might as well.
Half serious answer: as might as well all of their first-party IPs too, it's too unpredictable these days from them...
Are people losing the plot in this thread?
LMAO. good luck with your 500 usd power rig
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You forget that SM still collab with Sony, lol :)
Super Massive?
You forget that SM still collab with Sony, lol :)
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They were spending millions for their own game. It's Sony's IP ;)
Not the first time. In fact, i don't think they ever publish a game on PC.
Sometimes it's worth taking the bag of cash from people to have them incur the risk. Publishing Detroit (and Death Stranding) on PC has a form of risk involved (port costing vs. likelihood of recouping the money vs. other factors) so sometimes its worth it for a Publisher to take a bag of money from someone else to let them publish instead. Plus, it's Sony's IP, they still make money out of other people doing the work for them.
And it does. Just like they own Detriot, Jorney, Helldivers....
Death Stranding was a special case, Sony owns the IP and the only stipulation was probably 'no Xbox or Nintendo'. It's not like their first party games are going PC XD
They are first party. Made for Sony, for their money and Sony own IP.
1st party.
They have. Helldivers on steam and more recently the epic set heroes game on EGS
That's not how that works. First party is an owned studio. You're thinking of the nebulous '2nd Party' term where a company commissions a studio and stipulates it be an exclusive to their platform (owning the IP, if it can or can't go to another platform later? All negotiable)
Second party is not a thing in the video game industry. It's first party IP, third party studio.
Exactly, in fact that's what I thought was happening because people in this thread reiterated it constantly
So acting like we shouldn't be surprised is...naive at best
Anyway, I don't think this thread should be panicking, first party games like TLOU2, Spider-Man 2, Horizon 2, ain't going anywhere, so any PC gamers salivating over the thought should be saving up $400-$500 (unless you wanna deal with PSNOW, I know I don't, fuck streaming)
Ok I'm back and Yes please. I want the next Uncharted to be about the Drake family.
I love Drake and Nolan, but the ending they gave him in U4 was perfect. Just let him go off into the sunset. I wouldn't mind seeing him in future games, but I don't want him doing any adventuring.
The studio does not have to be owned for the game to be first party.
Its term used by media and players.
Death Stranding is First Party Game.
Does it retroactively changes its status if the studio is bought after the game is out (Insomniac Spider-Man lol)?
He can stay chilling on the beach. Create the story around you know who.
If there's another Uncharted, I'd rather they go with Cassie. Love Drake and co, but they could do some cool things with games based around a younger, less experienced character. That said, I'd also be fine with more Chloe.
I'm cool with that. I've even said that I wouldn't mind if they just decided to put a twist on the series and fully embrace the Tomb Raider comparisons, but flip it and have it more inline with the original TR games. Heavy emphasis on exploration and puzzles with some light action sprinkled in. And that'd actually make sense given the ending to U4.
Don't think it's fully funded by Sony. Kojima said that he had to borrow money from a bank to open the studio and start developing the game. Don't know for sure how it will work with the IP.
In the video game industry, a first-party developer is part of a company which manufactures a video game consoleand develops exclusively for it. First-party developers may use the name of the company itself (such as Nintendo), have a specific division name (such as Sony's Polyphony Digital) or have been an independent studio before being acquired by the console manufacturer (such as Rare or Naughty Dog).[6]
Second-party developer is a colloquial term often used by gaming enthusiasts and media to describe game studios who take development contracts from platform holders and produce games exclusive to that platform.[8] As a balance to not being able to release their game for other platforms, second-party developers are usually offered higher royalty rates than third-party developers.[7] These studios may have exclusive publishing agreements (or other business relationships) with the platform holder, but maintain independence so upon completion or termination of their contracts are able to continue developing games.
First-second etc has always been in relation to the developer. that's why the devs one Headhunter for the Dreamcast described themselves and 2nd Party and making an exclusive for Sega.
A first Party game is made by a first Party studio.
2nd and 3rd party studios can still produce titles that are exclusive (or not! — eventually) to the platform
It's why Ted Price used to say 'even though we're independent, Sony treats us like we're first party'. The access, integration, and studio context determines the status, not the platform availability.
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And yet, games like Detroit, Bloodborne, and Journey are all first party despite Sony not owning the developers behind the games.
Does Sony ever publish any of these PC versions? I checked Detroit and Journey- both of them have different publisher as well.
edit nvm, that already have been discussed. Hard to keep up with these threads today.
Looks like Bruce is done with AAA development. I guess he has enough money to start his own indie stuff.
That's exactly not how it works. Again, Sony owns the Death Stranding IP. It's a 1st party game. It doesn't matter who developed it. And "second party" doesn't exist. It's just a made-up thing.
Yep.
It doesn't matter if the game got made by a 1st party dev studio or a 3rd party dev studio. Death Stranding, Detroit: Become Human, Until Dawn are all Sony IPs / 1st party games
They may have been productions funded by Sony, someone may have (incorrectly) called them first party, but they were 2nd Party productions by every definition.
Sony refers to these games as first party though. Insomniac called Spider-Man a first party game before Sony acquired them, and Sony doesn't even own the Spidey IP.
They are Sony 1st party games. You can call it second party, which is just a made-up term. It's officially a Sony 1st party game.
I've given examples and citations. If you want to ignore those in favor of (I can only assume) being mad that death Stranding is going to PC, go ahead. Don't take that the wrong way or as hostile, I'm just at a lost as to why we're getting so into the weeds on this.
But no, 2nd Party is not a made up term. It has existed in the industry almost as long as said other terms. Exactly because there is a noteworthy distinction between 'Developing an exclusive for a platform with or without the platform holders direct commission'. That's hugely important.
Again this thing you're saying is a made up term is something that citable and defined.
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Idk what's going on this year with Sony but, for me, zero good news in 2019 coming from them, all bad. (im not saying DS on PC is bad news, "bad news" is the lack of good communication, announce this 2 weeks before release is awful, I just cancelled my pre-order in order to play next year on PC). I hope 2020 is better for Sony bc now...I'm not even hyped for PS5.
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