I really doubt that to be true considering CoD released in the same week.
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SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II
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I really doubt that to be true considering CoD released in the same week.
KojiPro isn't a first party. At most we're looking at a second party with first party type funding for this IP.
Yeah switching to Decimal might have blurred the lines a bit, but the fact that it was included in the announcement made it clear for me that it was important to Kojima. Furthermore, I'm sure Sony would've made it clear that the status changed if the game ended up being full on exclusive.
But he is right, Death Stranding is a first party game (like Spider-Man before Insomniac purchase)
Death Stranding seems to be a weird game that takes high risks compared to Sony's other games. In fact that Kojima Productions announced it and not Sony don't get your hopes up for an acquisition. I can now see why Jim Ryan wanted to acquire Insomniac Games and more studios to keep games under control.
Independence of studios demand PC version nowadays because of the high development costs. I think we are going to see less deals with independent studios on PS5.
Independence of studios demand PC version nowadays because of the high development costs. I think we are going to see less deals with independent studios on PS5.
It does seems really odd that Sony would be so damn thirsty for Kojima that they would be willing to quite literally roll out the red carpet for him, let him hand pick an SIE engine, and release the game on PC, as well as fully fund the game of course.
Sure, why not? If it makes financial sense, they should. Especially with a push towards this subscription programs.
They still want to sell consoles (PS5, Scarlett) but they are not going to be around for ever.
I don't know, I think that really blurs the definitions and distinctions. There's gotta be another way to classify it?
There was a FAQ that mentioned a PC version that was deleted shortly after the announcement. Since the game is getting a PC version, now we know that was part of Kojima's terms for working with Sony.
For me if Sony holds the IP, it's a first party (developed by their studio or an independent one)
With Sony, the IP didn't matter as much as the developer. Demon Souls, Detroit, and Until Dawn as an example. The dev will go on to make new IP that's basicallu spiritual sequel. Especially with Kojima, if Death Stranding is a huge hit, his name will have a lot of weight and not much Sony can do about it
From the other thread, someone found the Q&A mention:
Also Dreams is coming to PC, with the recent MM talk. Calling it now.
Also Dreams is coming to PC, with the recent MM talk. Calling it now.
Some are thinking about Sony in most peculiar terms; this is all the result of good personal relationships between Ryan, Kojima and other top members of the company. They made an arrangement in order to push him forward and in return now have in their hands a potential new blockbuster IP.
It's not like they've lost something; on the contrary, this whole project has been positive for them (imagine the black hole in PS4's first-party schedule if Death Stranding hadn't been around).
It's not like they've lost something; on the contrary, this whole project has been positive for them (imagine the black hole in PS4's first-party schedule if Death Stranding hadn't been around).
That's happening next year on PS5, most probably (uncapped framerate will be now stable).
Oh I get that, I just don't think it really jives with how we've understood this "system" for decades lol.
I was thinking of pre ordering the game but said why not wait for reviews, glad I did that. If reviews are good and there are no technical issues then I'll buy it on PS4 but if there are some problems I may wait for the PC release or PS5 remaster if there will be one.
KojiPro isn't first party, but Death Stranding is. There isn't really any such thing as second party outside of forum talk, and even though DS is getting a PC release, the game was still funded by Sony.
There's no such thing as 'second party'
You either own something or you don't. Just because Sony and Kojima agreed to a pc release doesn't mean the IP is not owned by Sony.
If Sony tomorrow decided to outsource the next God of War to an independent studio, or Microsoft decided to do the same for Halo, that doesn't mean they are not owned by Sony or Microsoft anymore.
People tried to sweep the initial FAQ under the rug because they don't understand how contracts work.
Shit was hilarious.
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Kinda weird, but not that surprising seeing how all the first-party games that came to PC this year were published by other companies as well
This has to be one of the strangest deals in video games lmao. A Sony funded and owned game on a Sony developed engine coming to PC, published by 505 Games. Wut.
Yea, I didn't post much about it, but if something says console exclusive, it's console exclusive. They yanked the Q&A cause Sony wanted to focus on marketing and getting tons of sales of the PS4 version.
If Sony is funding and also publishing it, they also get the sales from the PC Version. SOOO, it's not necessarily a bad thing? Don't think DS will move console sales so it will not affect that part.
edit: Nvm, Sony is not publishing the PC version. That's really weird now.
edit: Nvm, Sony is not publishing the PC version. That's really weird now.
Yeah this is how I see it too.
This is a situation that's beneficial to all parties, more DS sales for KojiPro specifically and Sony own a potential amazing new IP.
This particular arrangement with DS is a special case and giving Hideo PC market to sell to is a good call imo.
The biggest question going forward is, will Kojima make another exclusive Sony games after Death Stranding. Before, they had Andrew House that really push for Kojima.
Sony still owns the IP. Why wouldn't they make money on sales?
I'd really like to see the contract between Sony and Kojima lmao..I mean they apperently funded the game, gave away one of their first party engines and are not even publishing the game on PC wtf
I would have bought DS on release but now that it comes to PC ?
Yeah gonna wait for that. No reason to play it on PS4.
Got lots of backlog to play and Iceborne is taking up most of my time anyway.
I like this new approach from sony.
Games like TLOU 2 or GoT on pc in glorious 60+ fps ?
Yes please Sony
Yeah gonna wait for that. No reason to play it on PS4.
Got lots of backlog to play and Iceborne is taking up most of my time anyway.
I like this new approach from sony.
Games like TLOU 2 or GoT on pc in glorious 60+ fps ?
Yes please Sony
Except the game will most likelysell a lot more on PS4 than on pc.
Im not suprised that DS will be on PC because from beginning it was known.
Im suprised that they announce it about 2 weeks before PS4 release. o_O
Im suprised that they announce it about 2 weeks before PS4 release. o_O
Sony owning Death Stranding IP worth nothing because Sony is not going to make a sequel without Kojima. Not without huge backlash from fans anyway.
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