I think we'll see more Fromsoftware and SIE collaborations in the future. Hopefully we get a Level-5 an SIE collaboration for Dark Cloud 3.
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SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II
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Unless Sony successfully kept that studio/team secret for years they only formed in 2018 though, so we probably shouldn't expect something from them until 2021-2022.
I still expect Sony to talk about it well before then, though. Maybe even at the PS5 reveal event
I remember some folks hyping that photo. Then Deracine got announced...If Sony drops the ball, and can't work out a deal with Miyazaki that's a huge loss IMO. Sony JPN could try doing BB2, but I highly doubt they have the capability to do what Fromsoftware does, no one really does.
I would love to see a sequel for Bloodborne. It's in top 3 of my all-time favorite games after all. But as already said the cost of a deal may be huge. I can see a scenario where Sony plays it safe and develop Souls IPs by themselves. For instance, Demon Souls Remake by Bluepoint could be the example of this strategy. As hardcore as it is Souls games tend to attract fans to the platform where those titles are exclusive, that may be crucial in early life of a console which needs to build an audience. Targeting hardcore gamers could boost the numbers of players at launch of Ps5. But will we be satisfied with only one exclusive Souls title?
What?
Until Dawn, unlike Order, was actually really good.
Let's not compare the two. Even from a studio perspective the two titles are so different. Until Dawn is Supermassives best game. Order is RADs worst.
I expect Sony to talk about it whenever their game is unveiled, don't really see a reason to talk about it earlier.
Generally when new consoles launch, games are shown early.
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Yeah, I was thinking it would be mentioned only by name, like "A talented new development team at Sony Worldwide Studios has begun development on the next title in the beloved Uncharted series, exclusively for PS5" or given a short, unrevealing CG teaser to give the PS5 reveal event some extra oomph
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well, it depends. Assuming that they will indeed ship a big game like many are expecting, they will need to staff up. Finding talent in quality and quantity is one of the hardest aspects of development, and if your team is too much of a secret that can make things even more difficult. That's why we usually hear studio news around events like GDC because they usually have recruiters there in order to find talent
If they reveal it kinda far from launch (24+ months away) sure, I can see a studio reveal alongside the game, that could even help the recruiting process.
But if they want to reveal a game much closer to launch, which is something Sony has said they would rather do moving forward, I can see them revealing this team earlier than that
They can do Uncharted 4 reveal all over again: 2013 - teaser, 2014 - CGI reveal, 2015 - big gameplay reveal (yes, I know that the first reveal of gameplay was during PSX 2014).
You kind of are.
You are puzzled why people are asking for a sequel to a game a lot of people loved that got a 79 on metacritic.
Hmmm, that ones a real mystery to me.
Agreed. No offense to anyone, but it's sooooooooooooooooo played out, and the joke is just, "Ha, we're saying Knack is good when we know it's not."
I remember when Insomniac leads were shouting from all rooftops how they were proud of their Independence in the Era boards, until that Sony money 💰 dropped
Sony to Insomniac was like
Sony to Insomniac was like
Just because a game isn't great doesn't mean people can't like it. Look at Deadly Premonition. That game has so many negatives yet that game is great. Both those games have a lot of potential that people see and like what's there.
😂I remember when Insomniac leads were shouting from all rooftops how they were proud of their Independence in the Era boards, until that Sony money 💰 dropped
Sony to Insomniac was like
I doubt they show all their cards that early. I'm going with Horizon 2 and Spider-Man 2 as the two biggest reveals in 2020. GoW2, San Diego etc. come in 2021.
L O LI remember when Insomniac leads were shouting from all rooftops how they were proud of their Independence in the Era boards, until that Sony money 💰 dropped
Sony to Insomniac was like
XD
Indie with a multimillion publishing deal and marketing budget...
Oh right Kojima :P
I bet he wouldnt be so happy about being independent and having to sign with a publisher that wouldnt afford his insane productions values and 30000 Hollywood actors for a singleplayer story driven game with no proeminent GaaS element where the main mechanic is managing how to traverse a barren world
Nah :P They already mentioned a year before that they were open for a possible acquisition if the partner is right.I remember when Insomniac leads were shouting from all rooftops how they were proud of their Independence in the Era boards, until that Sony money 💰 dropped
Sony to Insomniac was like
Honestly Knack 2 wasn't even that bad.
That said I wouldn't want Knack 3. Give me Astro Bot 2 please.
That said I wouldn't want Knack 3. Give me Astro Bot 2 please.
Bloodborne was a saga of:
- Why would FROM ever do another exclusive with Sony after they hit the bank with Dark Souls?
- Bloodborne happened
- FROM said they were done with Souls-games for now ( Bloodborne is included in those ), why would Sony bother if they can't get Bloodborne 2?
- Deracine happened
Will Sony ever get another big AAA first-party collab with FROM? Who knows.
But the way I look at it - Sony is clearly interested in pursuing more opportunities with FROM, but they aren't the only one - and ultimately it's a question of how much leverage they can get for any particular opportunities available to them.
Gotta get in line to get the games you want.
Like - honestly? If you ask me, I wouldn't be surprised if a next SIE/FROM ends up being some sort of prototype one-off new IP that is basically Armored Core in all but name - and that FROM is using Sony's money to do their beta test of when they eventually intend to revive/reboot Armored Core for real. :P
Similar to how Deracine was basically an opportunity for FROM to test making a VR game, try out a new genre and familiarise themselves with UE4, an engine they never used before.
- Why would FROM ever do another exclusive with Sony after they hit the bank with Dark Souls?
- Bloodborne happened
- FROM said they were done with Souls-games for now ( Bloodborne is included in those ), why would Sony bother if they can't get Bloodborne 2?
- Deracine happened
Will Sony ever get another big AAA first-party collab with FROM? Who knows.
But the way I look at it - Sony is clearly interested in pursuing more opportunities with FROM, but they aren't the only one - and ultimately it's a question of how much leverage they can get for any particular opportunities available to them.
Gotta get in line to get the games you want.
Like - honestly? If you ask me, I wouldn't be surprised if a next SIE/FROM ends up being some sort of prototype one-off new IP that is basically Armored Core in all but name - and that FROM is using Sony's money to do their beta test of when they eventually intend to revive/reboot Armored Core for real. :P
Similar to how Deracine was basically an opportunity for FROM to test making a VR game, try out a new genre and familiarise themselves with UE4, an engine they never used before.
Not to sell FromSoftware short, but is it really that hard for a company as large, talented, and well funded as Sony, to produce something that's a replica of Bloodborne/Souls that's as good, if not better than it? Nioh is a worthy challenger to From's bread and butter, and it looks like Cygames is going to eat everyone's plate with Project Awakening. I think that Sony can craft a game internally that is every bit as good as the Soulsborne series that inspired it.
Very unlikely. As good as NiOh's combat is, it's still noticeably worse than any Dark Souls game. From just has a touch and a vision that nobody else can recreate
shu is talking about the topic of acquisitions in this article, explaining that acquisitions will happen with studios that they have strong relationship, so i guess Remedy is a no until they make an exclusive together.
Personally I think that it is a mistake, it just limits the potential options, meanwhile MS have acquired studios that they do not have strong ties with. Also in the case of remedy, if they end up releasing a successful exclusive with Sony, all that waiting around the acquisition will do is increase the price of the acquisition.
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I figured that
Which is why I am almost 100% sure Remedy next game is a Sony funded new IP
If Capcom could nail their level design, I think they'd easily eclipse FromSoftware. Mechanically, Capcom's action games are far beyond From's. I'll wait to see Project Awakening further but much like Capcom, Team Ninja stumbles in level design. If they nail that, I think they'll be recognized as being in the same class as FromSoftware. Also Nioh > Dark Souls 2.
Not gonna lie, I forgot about DS2 when I made that comment lol
Lol, everyone does. That's how poor it is relative to the rest of the series!
Personally, There's always the possibility but it's incredibly difficult. Fromsoftware games are great because it excels in nearly every aspect. Nioh's combat is better than Souls in my view but it's worse in a lot of different areas with encounters and level design which make a huge part of the experience. Within the time Souls gained popularity, there's been plenty of games who are clearly inspired but never reach the same quality. Fromsoftware is also just out of the world when it comes to enemy diversity and boss fights as well. It's kind of like Monster Hunter in a way where we've seen plenty of games inspired by it even with Sony having partnerships to create similar experiences but not quite reaching the same levels.
But also again for Sony, who they're going to ask to make such a game which could potentially compete in terms of quality even if they have the resources? Sony Japan haven't exactly made much good combat focused games in a long while that didn't involve Fromsoftware. There's always the possibility but I think the odds are stacked against them. I would be pretty blown away if they ever did.
Cygames can be potentially interesting to watch but it's not like they've released an actual big budget console game yet so hard to say the kind of quality expectations. Still waiting on Re:link which was still really one of my anticipated games.
I agree with you concerning enemy design, diversity, and boss fights. I think their ability to create interwoven worlds is unmatched thus far. I think a Dragon's Dogma 2 that really builds upon the premise and potential of the first game with an expanded story, richer mythology, better characters, a living world, larger variety of weapons, and more outlandish enemy design would be received as well as any Souls game and force FromSoftware to retool their combat. Tangentially, I love HZD, and believe it has all the potential in the world for a sequel, but I have to say that Dragon's Dogma is a series with as much potential yet no one really mentions how great it could be if given another go.
That puts Housemarque and Bluepoint at the top of the list. Ready at Dawn is a ? since we don't know what their next game is.
From that interview:
So people who were hoping for Legend of Dragoon, all hope is not lost.
Knack 2 wasn't bad, but it wasn't good enough either to justify it's existence. It sold poorly too despite being a solid game since the IP has such low appeal. Honestly, Sony should have known better than to make a sequel to a game that only got copies moved by being a launch title and generally reviewed poorly.
It probably was cheaper to make I bet rather than starting on a new IP, but the time wasted on the series this gen by Japan Studio was a major setback for them IMO
It probably was cheaper to make I bet rather than starting on a new IP, but the time wasted on the series this gen by Japan Studio was a major setback for them IMO
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